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"Trump's chances of refinancing those loans with Deutsche Bank just dropped precipitously." (Original Post) triron Dec 2020 OP
Well, he is selling a pardon to MBS Miguelito Loveless Dec 2020 #1
Am surprised that we haven't seen a lot more about this in the news.... secondwind Dec 2020 #2
I haven't seen anything. triron Dec 2020 #4
Here you go Miguelito Loveless Dec 2020 #15
MBS wants a pardon? What for? News to me. triron Dec 2020 #3
For the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #7
Was floated by Trump's cronies Miguelito Loveless Dec 2020 #13
Not a pardon... reACTIONary Dec 2020 #14
Yeah, because MBS isn't an American citizen nor was the crime committed here. Ligyron Dec 2020 #25
And that's the ill gotten gain we know about..... Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #6
If he's in a position to extract that, then he's an accomplice after the fact to murder. ancianita Dec 2020 #19
Now he's pardoning foreign nationals? BainsBane Dec 2020 #24
Not a pardon. Immunity from prosecution, if I understand correctly. niyad Dec 2020 #26
Why do it? Miguelito Loveless Dec 2020 #28
Okay BainsBane Dec 2020 #29
A few MAGA fundraising emails awesomerwb1 Dec 2020 #5
Vlad can take that out of petty cash. Codeine Dec 2020 #8
Said Exactly The Same To My Wife ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #20
"Those loans are fake. Trump is not responsible. Trump owes nothing. Supreme Court MUST investigate! dalton99a Dec 2020 #9
Meh. According to Michael zentrum Dec 2020 #10
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #18
I hope Putin hacks it, steals it. nt Ilsa Dec 2020 #23
Also, does anyone really believe he isn't demanding hefty bribes for Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #30
Trump is expecting $ from the sale of San Francisco's Bank of America building ... Auggie Dec 2020 #11
Good friggin Luck with that one. Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #12
That's ok hurple Dec 2020 #16
How do you say "Womp Womp" in German? flibbitygiblets Dec 2020 #17
I don't think he has many above-board moves available to him. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #21
Trump can just use the payment he gets from MBS's pardon to pay them all off. Kablooie Dec 2020 #22
The lazy lying steaming pile Hump Alpeduez21 Dec 2020 #27

Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
1. Well, he is selling a pardon to MBS
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
Dec 2020

for murdering the Post reporter, that should fetch him a billion at least. Then there is the $600 million he skimmed from his deranged followers. So, I think he will be able to pay his bills.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. Am surprised that we haven't seen a lot more about this in the news....
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 06:56 PM
Dec 2020


about granting immunity to MBS........

Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
13. Was floated by Trump's cronies
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:11 PM
Dec 2020

That he was considering pardoning him to shield him from prosecution for the murder of Jamal Kashoggi.

reACTIONary

(7,162 posts)
14. Not a pardon...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:13 PM
Dec 2020

.... immunity from a civil lawsuit. The Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act of 1976 is the basis, I believe. I don't think it has anything to do with pardons.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
25. Yeah, because MBS isn't an American citizen nor was the crime committed here.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:18 PM
Dec 2020

Well, there's always a drone strike during some other, different administration.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
19. If he's in a position to extract that, then he's an accomplice after the fact to murder.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:28 PM
Dec 2020

I'm not sure he can have traceable money change hands, if you're right. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but if it can be found, he's toast.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
24. Now he's pardoning foreign nationals?
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:57 PM
Dec 2020

for crimes committed outside the US? Why would the prince pay for that?

I don't believe the US claims universal jurisdiction, so he wouldn't be prosecuted here anyway.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
28. Why do it?
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:54 PM
Dec 2020

To the Saudis is would sofa change. It would cause future administrations all sorts of legal headaches. it’s a serious middle finger to the press. It complicates thing for Biden in the ME. It sows chaos and distrust of the US, and finally, Putin probably told him to.

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
5. A few MAGA fundraising emails
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 06:59 PM
Dec 2020

to add to what he's already received from MAGAts should be enough to cover the loans.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. Vlad can take that out of petty cash.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
Dec 2020

His debt will be underwritten by Russian oil money in exchange for the service he’s rendered the Motherland in the last four years. $330m is chump change for that crowd.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
20. Said Exactly The Same To My Wife
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:34 PM
Dec 2020

Around 3 hours ago.
I also included that he likely owes Russian interests a ton of money, and they're writing down the balance, favor by favor.

dalton99a

(94,128 posts)
9. "Those loans are fake. Trump is not responsible. Trump owes nothing. Supreme Court MUST investigate!
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
Dec 2020

He'll sue Deutsche Bank.

Just watch

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
10. Meh. According to Michael
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:45 PM
Dec 2020

…Cohen he has a pipe line to a few million MAGA supporters who for $4.99 a month will support his latest venture amounting to Rump making One Billion a year.

Cohen says it's all about working the Base.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
30. Also, does anyone really believe he isn't demanding hefty bribes for
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 08:39 AM
Dec 2020

a spot on his pardons list?

Auggie

(33,151 posts)
11. Trump is expecting $ from the sale of San Francisco's Bank of America building ...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:54 PM
Dec 2020

if the deal ever goes through. Trump has a stake in it. But I understand the sale is in some kind of legal limbo.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
21. I don't think he has many above-board moves available to him.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:55 PM
Dec 2020

He'll have to scam up some money, because I can't imagine his promises or signature are worth a nickel any more.

Alpeduez21

(2,054 posts)
27. The lazy lying steaming pile Hump
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:23 PM
Dec 2020

has already made a TON of $$ from skimming as president. Does anyone really doubt he hasn't sold infomation to Russia? America is well and truly fucked thanks to repukes. Fuck all of them.

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