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Nevilledog

(55,096 posts)
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:01 AM Dec 2020

Thread from attorney who represented families of Iraqis killed by Blackwater mercenaries.



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A Damn Lawyer
@adamnlawyer
Ali Kinani was 9 years old when he was shot in the head by Blackwater guards on September 16, 2007 in Baghdad Iraq. @realDonaldTrump just pardoned his killers. I represented Ali’s and five other families in a civil lawsuit against Blackwater and Erik Prince for the killings.
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Ali Kinani was 9 years old when he was shot in the head by Blackwater guards on September 16, 2007 in Baghdad Iraq. @realDonaldTrump just pardoned his killers. I represented Ali’s and five other families in a civil lawsuit against Blackwater and Erik Prince for the killings.
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Ali was sitting in the back seat of his father’s SUV with two of his cousins. Blackwater riddled the car with bullets. Ali’s father was driving. When the shooting stopped they thought they had experienced a miracle that they were safe.

One of Ali’s cousins said that Ali had been shot. His father opened the door after seeing blood on the window - and Ali’s brain fell out onto the pavement between his father’s feet.

Nicholas Slatten
Dustin L. Heard
Evan S. Liberty
Paul A. Slough

The Blackwater guards convicted of killing Ali Kinani and over a dozen other innocent Iraqi civilians were pardoned today by Donald Trump.

None of the victims had weapons. They were all shot and killed or wounded in their cars.
Blackwater had disobeyed a directive to stay in the Green Zone. Instead, they entered Nisour Square, blocked traffic, and began firing into the cars of innocent civilians.

The FBI investigated the shooting. It was the FBI’s largest and most expensive criminal investigation since 9/11. The investigation was a joint effort by both the FBI and its counterpart in Iraq.

Dozen of witnesses were brought from Iraq to DC for the trial. The prosecution’s first witness was Ali’s father Mohammed Kinani. He testified for two days explaining the savage attack by the Blackwater men.

Nicholas Slattan was convicted of murder and sentenced to life. The others were convicted of manslaughter and weapons charges and sentenced to 20 years.

I deposed the Blackwater guard who confessed to being one of the shooters. Blackwater trained these men in Moyock, North Carolina. Blackwater paid these men - and Erik Prince made millions selling their services to the US government.

I was quoted in @WSJ the day of the convictions that my clients, who were still citizens of Iraq, were certainly pleased to know the men accused of killing their family members had been brought to justice. I am equally certain they feel the US government has let them down today.

@mentions’s excellent documentary about Blackwater’s Youngest Victim shows part of Ali’s father’s graphic description of the massacre.

Abraham Al Mafrage was a 70yo farmer and father of 7. He was shot in the head in a public bus by Blackwater shooters. He was also killed on 9/16/07. Trump pardoned the four men convicted of the Nisour Square killings. There is no question the victims were innocent civilians.
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Mahde Shamke was 25yo. He was shot in the back while driving a taxi. He supported his parents and siblings. He was killed by on 9/16/07. Mahde died in the hallway of the hospital asking for water with a large exit wound in his chest. Trump pardoned the Nisour Square killers.
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The US government provided Ali's family a small condolence payment. They donated ½ the payment to wounded US soldiers. Ali’s mother delivered the donation to the US embassy. General Ray Odierno sent this thank you letter to Ali’s family. Donald Trump just slapped her in the face.
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Thread from attorney who represented families of Iraqis killed by Blackwater mercenaries. (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP
And there are people who still want to pretend it's about economics not bigotry for Trump supporters JI7 Dec 2020 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Dec 2020 #2
Horrible underpants Dec 2020 #3
K & R musette_sf Dec 2020 #4
I can't write what I think or the DU jury BigmanPigman Dec 2020 #5
I doubt that ... just don't say you're going to harm someone and you should be fine ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #9
Putting names and faces with the victims Bayard Dec 2020 #6
You guys catch this part at the end? mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #7
I feel sick to my stomach. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #8
The sheer evil on display is truly breathtaking to be behold ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #10
Of course, Betsy's charming brother. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #12
According to Jesus, there certainly should be a hell for them ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #15
And to think the evangelicals would bow before them... Lock him up. Dec 2020 #21
Or because DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #13
Well, yes ... but Prince is the one who'd be more interested in this sort of thing ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #14
prince went to the seychelles to set up a back channel to russia. mopinko Dec 2020 #27
I had not forgotten ;) nt mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #28
Glenn Kirschner's office prosecuted them. moondust Dec 2020 #11
All these pardons ARE CASES the FBI investigated Captain Zero Dec 2020 #16
this makes me about as sick and angry as anything Trump has done in the past four years . . . OneBlueSky Dec 2020 #17
This is sickening even for trump MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #32
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2020 #18
Sick fuck pardons sick fucks Blue Owl Dec 2020 #19
so.. accept a pardon quakerboy Dec 2020 #20
Trump pardons baby killers LeftInTX Dec 2020 #22
Kick dalton99a Dec 2020 #23
I remember reading that Prince hired guys who used to be members of the octoberlib Dec 2020 #24
Biden Administration needs to go after these mercenary organizations MarcA Dec 2020 #25
I HEREBY REJECT AND DECLARE THESE PARDONS NULL AND VOID!!! mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #29
He could still wreak more chaos bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #26
This is soul-destroying... Trump and his admin are pure fucking evil. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #30
Trump trying to curry favor with the military? LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #31

JI7

(93,768 posts)
1. And there are people who still want to pretend it's about economics not bigotry for Trump supporters
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:04 AM
Dec 2020

THis is WHY they supported him.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. I doubt that ... just don't say you're going to harm someone and you should be fine ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:38 AM
Dec 2020

We got your back

Bayard

(29,975 posts)
6. Putting names and faces with the victims
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:28 AM
Dec 2020

The U.S. government didn't just let them down--it stomped on their loved ones memory, courtesy of trumptilian. He is a horror, an evil travesty of a human being.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. You guys catch this part at the end?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:36 AM
Dec 2020
The US government provided Ali's family a small condolence payment. They donated ½ the payment to wounded US soldiers. Ali’s mother delivered the donation to the US embassy. General Ray Odierno sent this thank you letter to Ali’s family. Donald Trump just slapped her in the face.


Just when you think Trump couldn't possibly prove himself more vile and degenerate ...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. I feel sick to my stomach.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:38 AM
Dec 2020

This is a new low, even for Trump. All of this men are pure evil. I hope they all pay dearly one day for what they have done, especially Trump. He is nothing but scum.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. The sheer evil on display is truly breathtaking to be behold ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:40 AM
Dec 2020

You know he did this cause of Erik Prince, right?

No question about it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Of course, Betsy's charming brother.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:53 AM
Dec 2020

There is no end of corruption and evil within this crowd. I can't even say what I would wish for their fate to be.

You would think that when you had all the money in the world that you could just be happy and enjoy it and maybe make others happy with it as well. But no, not these people. They use their money to cause pain, suffering and spread thier own brand of sickness throughout the world. They don't care who suffers or dies. And it's never enough for them. They can never get enough money and they can never get their fill of sadism. I honestly hope there is a hell for people like this.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. According to Jesus, there certainly should be a hell for them ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:01 AM
Dec 2020

Or at the least they ain't getting into heaven.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
13. Or because
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:55 AM
Dec 2020

of Prince's sister????? Isn't she the Secretary of Education in Trump's cabinet.....???????

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Well, yes ... but Prince is the one who'd be more interested in this sort of thing ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:00 AM
Dec 2020

And Prince has done PLENTY for Trump.

And it's more to his benefit than Sister Cruella DeVos'.

mopinko

(73,805 posts)
27. prince went to the seychelles to set up a back channel to russia.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 07:00 PM
Dec 2020

i always thought betsy's post was a payoff to keep him quiet.

Captain Zero

(8,936 posts)
16. All these pardons ARE CASES the FBI investigated
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:08 AM
Dec 2020

Trump still has a hard-on for the FBI.

AT FIRST I thought the Iraqi civilian deaths at the hand Blackwater Mercenaries did not involve the FBI, BUT the article says the FBI INVesTIGATED IT along with their Iraqi counterpart.

Trump is taking down FBI CONVICTIONS with his pardons.

OneBlueSky

(18,536 posts)
17. this makes me about as sick and angry as anything Trump has done in the past four years . . .
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:17 AM
Dec 2020

the man has no soul . . . after he leaves office (if he ever does), he MUST be punished for crimes against humanity! . . . though he can't be punished for a pardon -- no matter how egregious -- a conviction for punishable crimes will at least return some semblance of justice to the families of these victims . . .

I've always believed that it's wrong to hate another person . . . I think I may have to make an exception in the case of Donald J. Trump . . .

MustLoveBeagles

(16,861 posts)
32. This is sickening even for trump
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:59 AM
Dec 2020
I've always believed that it's wrong to hate another person . . . I think I may have to make an exception in the case of Donald J. Trump . . .


Don't beat yourself up over it. Him and people like that make it very difficult to not feel hate.

quakerboy

(14,890 posts)
20. so.. accept a pardon
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:01 AM
Dec 2020

isnt there an admission of guilt?

Which could then be used in a civil court?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
24. I remember reading that Prince hired guys who used to be members of the
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:12 PM
Dec 2020

Honduran Death Squads. They had a training camp in the Great Dismal Swamp in NC . Still do, in fact; the company just goes under a different name.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
25. Biden Administration needs to go after these mercenary organizations
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

As for the pardons, not sure everyone will recognize or approve of them.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. I HEREBY REJECT AND DECLARE THESE PARDONS NULL AND VOID!!!
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 07:23 PM
Dec 2020

Yup, see, you were right!

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
30. This is soul-destroying... Trump and his admin are pure fucking evil.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:01 PM
Dec 2020

That poor child... as well as the other victims.

LudwigPastorius

(14,846 posts)
31. Trump trying to curry favor with the military?
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:52 AM
Dec 2020

All four of those pardoned were military before going to work for Blackwater.

I think Trump did this because he believes it will bolster support for a coup attempt.

(When, in actuality, most of those in the military are probably disgusted by the actions of these four men, and believe they should serve out their sentences.)
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