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Schumer's down with $2000 Checks Too (Original Post) liskddksil Dec 2020 OP
Congressional Repugs gonna go for $2000???? elleng Dec 2020 #1
It's ON or he destroys them on Twitter... Lock him up. Dec 2020 #10
Trumps entire mission is to destroy the bill...we get nothing...he said it basically last night Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #18
Well, "All the people" in absolute misery is what Putin wants since President Obama's sanctions Lock him up. Dec 2020 #24
Make him back it up! Trump's last and only positive helpful act against the effects of Covid 19. The Wielding Truth Dec 2020 #2
you know 2 can play this game, tell tRump NO... Enterstageleft Dec 2020 #3
People need the 2k . If we can get it this way it would be a good thing JI7 Dec 2020 #4
+1 2naSalit Dec 2020 #5
This is not a fucking game or a political stunt...do you understand the panic unemployed people? Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #19
Agreed, something is fundamentally wrong with all this talk of games, games, games. Magoo48 Dec 2020 #27
Me too...this is not or should not be political. This is about meeting the needs of hungry Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #28
I would guess that showing Trump that the $2000 is an AOC and Tlaib amendment ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #6
No it won't rpannier Dec 2020 #15
I betcha it won't be exactly 2K in the end ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #17
Schumer is all for it! True Blue American Dec 2020 #16
I don't think any money will be sent to anyone...the bill is blown up just like before the election. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #20
I didn't say I was sure money was going to be sent to anyone ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #21
Since I have watched people being tossed out of their homes and worked food banks and Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #23
What happens after Mitch the Mouth has a heart attack? AmyStrange Dec 2020 #7
Dance like everyone did after they finally announced Biden winner of the election JI7 Dec 2020 #8
Thank you, but I'll wait until after they bury the SOB... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #11
If your dreams come true (Mitch has a heart attack), Staph Dec 2020 #9
Really! AmyStrange Dec 2020 #12
It mildly varies by state, but.... Staph Dec 2020 #13
Oh yeah! You're right... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #14
He would do a better job dsc Dec 2020 #22
Nancy Pelosi was the first to propose this, moments after trump spoke... George II Dec 2020 #25
Ayn Rand Paul will object so that will stop it. yellowcanine Dec 2020 #26

Lock him up.

(9,785 posts)
10. It's ON or he destroys them on Twitter...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:15 AM
Dec 2020
If they refuse: Buh-bye 2022 (and perhaps any chance of winning Georgia).

I want both "sides" destroyed though.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
18. Trumps entire mission is to destroy the bill...we get nothing...he said it basically last night
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:12 AM
Dec 2020

when he said it could be left to the 'next administration and it might be him..." All the people who are going to starve and die of exposure...it is just horrifying.

Lock him up.

(9,785 posts)
24. Well, "All the people" in absolute misery is what Putin wants since President Obama's sanctions
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:40 PM
Dec 2020
on him and his kleptocrats (the Russian mob), isn't it?

Still, nobody in power invokes the 25th and millions upon millions will die.

Enterstageleft

(4,554 posts)
3. you know 2 can play this game, tell tRump NO...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:20 AM
Dec 2020

make it $6000/person with $1000/child...see if he counters that!

PUT tRUMP & THE REPUGS ON THE DEFENSIVE.

They started this fucking game, let's see how serious they are.

JI7

(93,602 posts)
4. People need the 2k . If we can get it this way it would be a good thing
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:22 AM
Dec 2020

Even if his intentions are shitty .

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
19. This is not a fucking game or a political stunt...do you understand the panic unemployed people?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:15 AM
Dec 2020

are feeling now...they are already kids going hungry. These people are not collateral damage for stupid political games.

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
27. Agreed, something is fundamentally wrong with all this talk of games, games, games.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:35 AM
Dec 2020

These so called “games” batter the feelings of those already gazing into the abyss. It’s sadly insensitive no matter who’s doing it. When one is hungry, nearly or now homeless and facing economic disaster—the talk of games must be bewildering. I’d sure like to see the whole thing framed differently.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
28. Me too...this is not or should not be political. This is about meeting the needs of hungry
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 02:27 PM
Dec 2020

and soon to be homeless Americans. I hate Trump with a passion of a 2000000000000000000000 burning sun...but now is not the time for revenge by putting things in the bill that hurts Trump.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. I would guess that showing Trump that the $2000 is an AOC and Tlaib amendment ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 02:48 AM
Dec 2020

Would've just torpedoed that idea. He will definitely not go for that number now, guarantee you that.

Best we can hope for is that he decides he wants a bigger number, to outdo the Dems.

rpannier

(24,922 posts)
15. No it won't
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:12 AM
Dec 2020

Trump will lay claim to the whole thing
He'll be able to say, that the whole 2k was dead in the water, then he jumped in for the American people and got all this extra money
He'll get to put his name on the checks
His signing ceremony will have who he wants there
It'll be the beginning of his 2024 campaign
And...oddly enough... I'm okay with that

extra bonus: That odious toad Rand Paul will be very angry and we can mock him claiming it was his idea. After all he did say, "Why not 2,000...?"

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
16. Schumer is all for it!
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:59 AM
Dec 2020

Already has an amendment written up, ready to go!

Is the life long Democrat back with 28 days to go? Irony much?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
20. I don't think any money will be sent to anyone...the bill is blown up just like before the election.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:16 AM
Dec 2020

Why would you believe Trump?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. I didn't say I was sure money was going to be sent to anyone ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:20 AM
Dec 2020

I just said the amount won't be $2K since Trump is now certainly aware that's the amount proposed in an amendment by AOC and RT.

That's all I'm asserting.

$0 is also not $2K.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
23. Since I have watched people being tossed out of their homes and worked food banks and
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:35 AM
Dec 2020

seen them run out of food...kids are going to be hungry. And the fact we are likely to get nothing is a disaster for real people. My heart is broken. We could literally have people starve to death and families living on the street in January...where the cold is life threatening in many places. I can't consider this politically. I am not criticizing you. But people think this is our ticket to winning Georgia...I don't know if it is. And we sure as hell will get nothing if the democrats don't win. People are desperate and it is Christmas which makes it worse. This will also mean no covid money and more will die.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
7. What happens after Mitch the Mouth has a heart attack?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:04 AM
Dec 2020

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Does someone replace him, and how long do we have to wait for that shit?

Who's the next ass hole in charge anyway.

Maybe it'll be Pence. He's the trumpets lackey. He'll go for it.

This is getting INSANE!!!
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AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
11. Thank you, but I'll wait until after they bury the SOB...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:17 AM
Dec 2020

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I'll drink a lot of beer and water his lawn.
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(psssssst... in case the secret service checks up on me, pretend you don't know me.)
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Staph

(6,467 posts)
9. If your dreams come true (Mitch has a heart attack),
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:14 AM
Dec 2020

and he leaves the Senate, he'll be replaced by a Democrat. The governor of Kentucky is a big D!


 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
12. Really!
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:18 AM
Dec 2020

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Is this really true or are you just yanking my petunias?
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Staph

(6,467 posts)
13. It mildly varies by state, but....
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:39 AM
Dec 2020

According to the Congressional Research Service's document, U.S. Senate Vacancies: Contemporary Developments and Perspectives -- Updated April 12, 2018 (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44781):

Filling Vacancies by Appointment Through the Next General Election

The 36 states listed below authorize their governors to fill Senate vacancies by appointment, with the temporary Senator serving the balance of the term or until a special election is held concurrently with the next statewide general election. General elections are scheduled with relative frequency throughout the states. They are held in every state at least once in every even numbered year, for Representatives in Congress, Senators, if applicable, and, quadrennially, for the President and Vice President, as well as for a broad range of state officials, including governors, legislators, and other state and local elected officials. In addition, a number of states schedule statewide elections for local elected officials for odd-numbered years. In several states—Hawaii, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, and Virginia—if a Senate vacancy occurs in close proximity to a regularly scheduled statewide primary or general election, the appointed Senator serves until the following statewide election.

Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Maine
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Utah



TLDR... If some unnamed Kentucky senator leaves his seat, willingly or otherwise, his replacement will be chosen by Governor Andy Beshear, said replacement to serve until the previous senator's term ends or until a special election held along with the next state-wide election.

Think Martha McSally. She was named to the Senate by Republican governor of Arizona Doug Ducey, after Jon Kyl resigned, and then she had to run in 2020 to hold her temporary seat. Of course, Martha lost big time, but we can hope that Andy Beshear does a better job of picking a replacement.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
14. Oh yeah! You're right...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:42 AM
Dec 2020

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I forgot all about that, even though it just happened today with Gov. Newsom.

Thanks for reminding me.
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dsc

(53,390 posts)
22. He would do a better job
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:23 AM
Dec 2020

it also almost certainly wouldn't matter. KY is pretty much a lost cause in terms of statewide federal offices.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Nancy Pelosi was the first to propose this, moments after trump spoke...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:22 PM
Dec 2020

...and the bill, as a bill and not an amendment, was written and proposed by Kamala Harris back in May 2020.

S.3784 - Monthly Economic Crisis Support Act

Sen. Harris, Kamala D. [D-CA] (Introduced 05/20/2020)

This bill provides for a monthly rebate to individuals and their dependents for the period beginning March 2020, and ending on the third month after the date on which the Department of Health and Human Services determines that the COVID-19 (i.e., coronavirus disease 2019) public health emergency has ended. The rebate is $2,000 per individual ($4,000 for individuals filing a joint tax return) plus $2,000 for each dependent of such individual, not exceeding three dependents. The rebate is reduced for individuals whose adjusted gross income exceeds specified levels. Rebates are not subject to garnishment or set offs by financial institutions.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3784?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Harris%22%5D%7D&s=4&r=93






https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214749744

yellowcanine

(36,787 posts)
26. Ayn Rand Paul will object so that will stop it.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 03:26 PM
Dec 2020

They will then have to pass a stand alone bill for $1400 to go with the $600 in the original bill.

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