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Trump's surprise demand for $2000 stimulus checks for everyone (Original Post) UCmeNdc Dec 2020 OP
I figured either way the guy who gets screwed royally is Moscow Mitch uponit7771 Dec 2020 #1
Along with 200 million American citizens... Wounded Bear Dec 2020 #2
No, something can and will pass no matter what caused there are enough votes to veto Red Don uponit7771 Dec 2020 #4
Not if he pocket vetoes it sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #8
Crap, so it doesn't matter what congress does uponit7771 Dec 2020 #9
Is Congress going out of session? exboyfil Dec 2020 #11
I thought I read the statute that Sundays don't count towards the ten days sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #14
I didn't know that exboyfil Dec 2020 #16
I thought he had 30 days to veto... Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #15
It is 10 days excluding Sundays exboyfil Dec 2020 #18
Government Holidays still count? Christmas and New Years? Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #20
I was wondering that as well - they aren't mentioned in what I read sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #22
This article states that Congress made the timeline exboyfil Dec 2020 #23
He will pocket veto it...we are at the end of the Congressional two years. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #24
Right, I don't see how this helps GA senate races though uponit7771 Dec 2020 #26
2,000 dollars would help people big time jimfields33 Dec 2020 #7
It would, but 2k was never, and is not, available now... Wounded Bear Dec 2020 #13
Ugh. jimfields33 Dec 2020 #17
I don't disagree at all... Wounded Bear Dec 2020 #21
Well now people get nothing likely...and they can't even afford food and shelter. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #25
Trump accomplished what he wanted-- distraction- dawg day Dec 2020 #3
about payback, its always about payback beachbumbob Dec 2020 #5
"I need a favor though." n/t monmouth4 Dec 2020 #6
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #10
Only way to avoid a pocket veto pfitz59 Dec 2020 #12
That is how I see it exboyfil Dec 2020 #19
It doesn't matter if Congress is in session or not...this Congress will be dissolved. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #27

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
4. No, something can and will pass no matter what caused there are enough votes to veto Red Don
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:33 AM
Dec 2020

sweetloukillbot

(12,744 posts)
8. Not if he pocket vetoes it
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:38 AM
Dec 2020

Trump doesn't need to do a thing with it. It dies with the new year.

exboyfil

(18,366 posts)
11. Is Congress going out of session?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:42 AM
Dec 2020

Congress just needs to come back around Dec. 31st which is day nine I think (and last day to veto it). They just need to override by Jan. 3rd (painful but can be done).

sweetloukillbot

(12,744 posts)
14. I thought I read the statute that Sundays don't count towards the ten days
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:49 AM
Dec 2020

That would give him longer to hold onto it.

exboyfil

(18,366 posts)
16. I didn't know that
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
Dec 2020

I checked and you are right about Sunday. Dec. 21st to Jan. 3rd - 13 days with two Sundays. It still seems Congress would have at least one day (possibly two) before the clock resets.

Buckeyeblue

(6,402 posts)
15. I thought he had 30 days to veto...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:51 AM
Dec 2020

But if he holds it until the new session congress would have to vote on it again.

exboyfil

(18,366 posts)
18. It is 10 days excluding Sundays
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:55 AM
Dec 2020

but my math still shows a couple of days possible before the new Congress. With the new Congress it would be another 10 days before it became law or the new Congress would be voting again sometime around Jan. 13th.

With all the other chaos going on, it is typical that he is pulling this stunt.

sweetloukillbot

(12,744 posts)
22. I was wondering that as well - they aren't mentioned in what I read
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:03 PM
Dec 2020

But I'd think they would be...

exboyfil

(18,366 posts)
23. This article states that Congress made the timeline
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
Dec 2020

to avoid a pocket veto, but they are going to hate coming back to vote before the 3rd.


https://www.rollcall.com/2020/12/22/trump-demands-congress-amend-massive-spending-package/

If the bill isn't quickly sent to Trump, there's a real risk of a "pocket veto" -- where the bill dies because no action was taken before the 117th Congress begins. The 10-day clock for a presidential signature or veto could run into the new congressional session that starts at noon Sunday, Jan. 3, at which point the bill would die. Sundays are excluded from the 10-day count under the Constitution, so enrollment and delivery of the bill would need to be occur by Tuesday night, or possibly Wednesday at the latest.

Demsrule86

(71,552 posts)
24. He will pocket veto it...we are at the end of the Congressional two years.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:08 PM
Dec 2020

Kind of almost like they planned it that way...

Wounded Bear

(64,470 posts)
13. It would, but 2k was never, and is not, available now...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:45 AM
Dec 2020

Now, we won't get the $600 either, at least not for several additional weeks, and probably not until Biden is sworn in. Throw in that the new Congress, which seats in 3 weeks would have to start over from scratch if this isn't done by end of year.

This was Trump trying to fuck over McConnell because he congratulated Biden as Pres-elect. In addition, he gets to fuck over the rest of us for not voting for him. It's a win-win for Trump.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
17. Ugh.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:54 AM
Dec 2020

I hope it goes through. I know some who could really use it. I’d forgo mine to help them. I think nancy is having it go through the house today. I have my fingers crossed.

Wounded Bear

(64,470 posts)
21. I don't disagree at all...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:58 AM
Dec 2020

It would damn sure be nice, and there are many desperate people out there that need if far more than I do. My fixed income is safe, and my bills are paid. There ain't any extra money flying around my house, but I survive. I know many people aren't in as secure of a position.

I just know that neither Trump nor McConnell are on our side in this fight. We're just collateral damage to them. If the 2k gets through somehow, I suspect Trump would still veto it, because he's an asshole. It's what he does. I dare him to prove me wrong, though, and even if this does get through it won't improve my opinion of either one of them.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. Trump accomplished what he wanted-- distraction-
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:31 AM
Dec 2020

from his pardoning of Erik Prince's cold-blooded murdering employees.

pfitz59

(12,831 posts)
12. Only way to avoid a pocket veto
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:44 AM
Dec 2020

Is to keep Congress in session through the New Year. Meanwhile Trump will be laughing it up at Mar Lego.

exboyfil

(18,366 posts)
19. That is how I see it
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:57 AM
Dec 2020

I bet those in Congress exiting with the term will be less than enthusiastic.

Demsrule86

(71,552 posts)
27. It doesn't matter if Congress is in session or not...this Congress will be dissolved.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:10 PM
Dec 2020

Its term will end before the 10 days are up.

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