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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 01:22 PM Dec 2020

John Cleese: "Room for hope?"



John Cleese @JohnCleese

Just reading about how, during his last moments in the bunker in Berlin, Hitler was beside himself with fury, screaming blame on the German people for letting him down

Then he shot himself

Room for hope ?


12:19 PM · Dec 24, 2020



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John Cleese: "Room for hope?" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Dec 2020 OP
I hope John doesn't end up in Twitmo for this Blecht Dec 2020 #1
I used to love John Cleese. Lunabell Dec 2020 #2
I didn't know that about him DavidDvorkin Dec 2020 #3
Surprised me. Lunabell Dec 2020 #6
It's a shame. It reminds me of when most gay people were closeted TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #14
I just don't understand how people can be so hurtful. Lunabell Dec 2020 #20
People will surprise you TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #21
That, and his "London isn't an English city anymore" garbage. Grokenstein Dec 2020 #12
2nd amendment solution lame54 Dec 2020 #4
Fingers crossed. KPN Dec 2020 #5
even if the orange obesity tried, he'd miss, and still claim he made the shot...🤣🏌🏽‍♂️ bringthePaine Dec 2020 #7
Just like his golf games........ KS Toronado Dec 2020 #8
... where every hit off the tee is a hole-in-one. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2020 #15
Love, love, love John Cleese janterry Dec 2020 #9
Thanks John Cleese....cuz i got alerted recently for saying the same thing in GD Submariner Dec 2020 #10
He wouldn't have the guts. kskiska Dec 2020 #11
I like the image in your sig line. calimary Dec 2020 #13
JC FTW cureautismnow Dec 2020 #16
And we all know that The White House already has bunker for his convenience. W T F Dec 2020 #17
He tends to screw things up. safeinOhio Dec 2020 #18
Certainly would solve a lot of problems.... paleotn Dec 2020 #19

Blecht

(3,806 posts)
1. I hope John doesn't end up in Twitmo for this
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
Dec 2020

That is where I am until Saturday for expressing similar sentiments.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,237 posts)
14. It's a shame. It reminds me of when most gay people were closeted
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 03:45 PM
Dec 2020

They stayed in the closet for fear that they would be discriminated against, shunned by friends and family, or even become victims of violence. Because they were closeted, most people didn't "know" any gay people, anti-gay bigotry perpetuated and most straight people just didn't get it

But then, little by little, gay people started coming out of the closet. People got to know them and found out they're just like other people. They have flaws, just like straight people. Some are wonderful, some are jerks, and some are somewhere in between, just like straight people.

So now, trans and non-binary people are starting to be more open about their gender. Many cisgender people still don't understand trans folk because they've never known any, but little by little, as trans folk people are open about their gender, more cisgender folks will get to know them and hopefully accept them, but there will always be bigots who don't.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
20. I just don't understand how people can be so hurtful.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:01 PM
Dec 2020

Especially someone whom I looked up to and thought had more sense than that.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,237 posts)
21. People will surprise you
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 09:14 PM
Dec 2020

On one hand, he seems quite against Trump, but on the other hand he has this issue with trans people. But you have to remember that he's still an 81 year old fart, married to a woman 30 years younger.

One would think that having a gay member of Monty Python, Graham Chapman, might make Cleese more understanding, but apparently not. The thing is, Cleese didn't CHOOSE to be a straight cisgender man, he just is. Why can't he accept that everyone isn't the same?

I have a second cousin who is trans, female to male, and when he came out as a man, I wasn't all that surprised. In his case, I think there's a genetic component. He ALWAYS, wanted to wear boy clothes and wore his hair very short. When he hit puberty, he grew a lot of body hair as well as hair on his face. He has cerebral palsy and is in a wheelchair, so his life has always been difficult.

But when he let everyone know his name was Joey, not Julie, I just wanted him to be happy. It took a little getting used to for his parents and grandparents, but they were okay with it and like me, they just want him to be happy. He's very involved in his church and when he told his pastor, the pastor just asked him if he wanted to be baptized again with his new name. He said yes!

Being kind and accepting doesn't cost anyone a damn thing. I wish Cleese and JK Rowling understood that.

bringthePaine

(1,806 posts)
7. even if the orange obesity tried, he'd miss, and still claim he made the shot...🤣🏌🏽‍♂️
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 03:09 PM
Dec 2020

Submariner

(13,390 posts)
10. Thanks John Cleese....cuz i got alerted recently for saying the same thing in GD
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 03:18 PM
Dec 2020

Please don't alert Cleese's tweet.

calimary

(90,311 posts)
13. I like the image in your sig line.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 03:43 PM
Dec 2020

That looks like one of my senators (Ron Wyden) walking out on trump in the middle of the fawning applause while Nancy Pelosi ripped up trump's script.

Quite satisfying!

safeinOhio

(37,804 posts)
18. He tends to screw things up.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 04:12 PM
Dec 2020

I'd bet he closes his eyes when he fires the gun and misses.

tis only a flesh wound.

paleotn

(22,406 posts)
19. Certainly would solve a lot of problems....
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 04:17 PM
Dec 2020

Mom use to say...if you can't say something nice about someone, say nothing at all. If she were around I think she'd put that rule on hold the last 4 years.

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