Racist gets his clock cleaned

[vercetti2021]

Link to tweet

Like damn dude! He hit that guy so hard that can exploded. Honestly karma needs to hit all these fucking scumbags like this.

[ProfessorGAC]

1. He Should Have Made Him...

...buy a mask & put it on, or another beating commences.
BTW: he let that guy off easy. He could have kept pounding on that guy if he wanted to.

[shanti]

52. He popped back up

again and again. Had to have been drunk or very high on something.

[ProfessorGAC]

78. Meth Can Do That!

So can PCP.
Who knows what that dim bulb was on?

[bluestarone]

53. Right. That's the difference between THEM and us! Had it been the other guy?

The other guy WOULD NOT stop until death more than likely.

[BobTheSubgenius]

120. That POS DID get off easy.

And he was way too resilient, or else that guy hits like a flyweight. But coming up off the floor and trying to manhandle someone that has at least 40 pounds on you? Idiot. He obviously doesn't know anything about a street fight, either. The only chance he had, if he thought he was going to win that fight, was to stay outside, and stick and move. Hope you can wear the bigger guy down.

These days, WAY too many people take MMA classes, or many other forms of self-defense. If you ain't got some, turn and walk away.

[lastlib]

2. Shitbag had it coming!

Bravo to the AA guy who stood up to this POS and put him down where he belonged!

[billh58]

51. Totally agree

and contrary to others who seem to support the Trumpster, the cracker had it coming big time.

[jayfish]

3. I'm Not Sure What This Has To Do With Trump But; OK.

Actually... It seems like assault. The only mitigating factor is that the white dude walked forward to front the other guy. Pretty thin justification IMO.

[Raven]

6. Trump has given these people a permission slip.

[jayfish]

10. What makes You Think That Idiot Has Even a Single Thought...

in his mind about what Trump says? Is there a longer video somewhere?

[lame54]

24. I think they're referring to the general attitude of...

Hidden racism is more out in the open since Trump's rise

[bluestarone]

54. He DID kick him!

Did you not see that? The guy was picking up his drink, and he kicked at him!

[MLAA]

40. Indeed, He has given white supremacist assholes the comfort to crawl out

from under their rock and mouth off. I not usually a fan of violence, but I’m okay with this payback.

[fwvinson]

113. Go back to StormTrooper you racist fuck

[vercetti2021]

8. Let's be honest

He did tell him to smack him. So...assault isn't really carried here. But I honestly don't blame him for smacking the guy. The N word is awful to get called. People get sick of it and boil over.

[jayfish]

12. That's a Pretty Flimsy Argument.

How about if he said "shoot me"? Now, I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it myself. I've been in countless street-fights and many were over much more trivial disputes than this. As a matter of fact I was in a similar (maskhole) situation a couple of weeks ago. If the other guy hadn't have slinked away violence would have ensued. I'm saying let's not hold this up as "super-awesome".

[MineralMan]

21. "Fighting Words." Look it up.

Nobody would prosecute that man for battery. Not a chance.

Here's the thing: That skinny white boy is lucky he could walk away from that situation. There are few things more stupid he could have done, but he's obviously not smart enough to do them.

You call a robust black man that several times, and you're asking for a beatdown, at least. In another place or another situation, that stupid white boy might well be dead right now.

Open racism is dangerous if you're the only stupid white boy in a room. Very dangerous.

[jayfish]

29. "Fighting Words" is Not Real.

You should look it up for yourself. And again, I'm not saying the dude didn't have it coming, just that it's not something to be celebrated.
...well, publicly at least.

[ancianita]

60. Yes, it is. I looked it up for myself.

from Cornell Law

Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. ... Fighting words are a category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fighting_words

[treestar]

70. but is it a defense

to an assault charge.

Really use words or learn to ignore stupid people. That was not justified.

[ancianita]

85. Held up by SCOTUS. The charge doesn't win conviction.

Punching a "ni***r" slingin' Nazi is legal and okay in my book. Especially when the guy literally asked for it.

[treestar]

89. Here's a lawyer's opinion

https://people.howstuffworks.com/when-legal-punch-someone-face.htm

[treestar]

90. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire

Fighting Words
Primary tabs
Overview
Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

Fighting words are a category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment. Further, as seen below, the scope of the fighting words doctrine has between its creation in Chaplinsky and the Supreme Court's interpretation of it today.

Non-Exhaustive List of SCOTUS Cases Invoking the Fighting Words Doctrine
The following cases show some of the instances in which the Supreme Court has invoked the fighting words doctrine. As shown, the scope of the doctrine changes between various cases.

Terminiello v. City of Chicago (1949)
In Terminiello v. Chicago, 337 U.S. 1 (1949), the Supreme Court narrowed the scope of what constitutes fighting words. The Court found that words which produce a clear and present danger are unprotected (and are considering fighting words), but words which invite dispute and causes unrest are protected (and are not considered fighting words).

Feiner v. New York (1951)
In Feiner v. People of State of New York, 30 U.S. 315 (1951), the Supreme Court held that akin to the fighting words doctrine, an incitement to riot which creates a clear and present danger is also not protected by the First Amendment.

Texas v. Johnson (1989)
In Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), the Supreme Court redefined the scope of the fighting words doctrine to mean words that are "a direct personal insult or an invitation to exchange fisticuffs." In the case, the Court held that the burning of a United States flag, which was considered symbolic speech, did not constitute fighting words.`



https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fighting_words#:~:text=Fighting%20words%20are%2C%20as%20first,immediate%20breach%20of%20the%20peace.

[BunnyMcGee]

116. Don't celebrate this altercation if you don't want to

but for others who don't want verbal and physical assaults, have to hold their tongue to an idiot spewing this shit, it is a welcome sight to put the bastard down. Not saying anything or defending oneself is saying it's OK to do to others.

[treestar]

91. ...

Fighting words are not an excuse or defense for a retaliatory assault and battery.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fighting-words/#:~:text=Fighting%20words%20are%20words%20intentionally,a%20retaliatory%20assault%20and%20battery.

[StarfishSaver]

105. We all know if the roles were reversed and that were a black man taunting a white man that way

and the white man physically reacted - or even shot the black man dead on the spot - white folk would be falling all over themselves defending him and justifying his behavior because "he was in fear of his life."

[MineralMan]

114. Exactly.

[awesomerwb1]

33. I agree

It’s ultra awesome. Fuck that racist POS

[safeinOhio]

9. Legal difference between assault and battery.

"In an act of physical violence by one person against another, "assault" is usually paired with battery. In an act of physical violence, assault refers to the act which causes the victim to apprehend imminent physical harm, while battery refers to the actual act causing the physical harm."

[jayfish]

20. Well, Since We're Getting All "Well Actually" Here...

we may as well throw "aggravated" in there.

[ancianita]

62. And "fighting words" are judged unprotected by the First Amendment

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fighting_words

[safeinOhio]

65. And it cost nothing

to be nice.

[ancianita]

69. I hear you.

But for some people, their personhood or superiority always has to take priority over nice.

[treestar]

72. that does not mean it is defense to assault

and anyone can claim anything is fighting words.

Many black men in that situation would just ignore the guy or think he was crazy.

[ancianita]

86. Cite the ruling and I'll consider this credible. Fighting words are legally defined.

[brush]

15. Thin justification? Do you live in the real world? I advise you not to repeatedly call a black man..

the n-word and not expect some pushback. That racist asshole got exactly what he deserved.

[jayfish]

19. "Thin Justification"...

in the eyes of the law. You know, it being on camera and posted on the internet and all. I can't breath through my nose on most days from living in the "real world" so save it.

[brush]

22. You save it. We all peeped your hole card.

[billh58]

28. +100

Kind of obvious...

[jayfish]

31. I Want To Read You Saying It.

Let's go.

[billh58]

32. Threat?

"Let's go?"

[jayfish]

41. Are You Fucking Crazy?

This is a discussion board where we, you know, discuss things. This is a thread glorifying a violent act, which I objected to. Now, after you (and your tag-team partner) are too cowardly to say what's on your mind(s) you are going to insinuate that I'm threatening violence? SMFH.

[d_b]

80. Keep dealing for white trash, bud

I'm sure that puddle of tea held a lot of interest with his face down on it.

[SlogginThroughIt]

36. WTF?

“Let’s Go”?

[jayfish]

30. Flip It Over Then Buddy.

What is it? Don't be shy.

[panader0]

45. You feeling OK? What's wrong?

If I ever saw a guy ask for and get it---this is it.

[judesedit]

56. Like Sandmann screaming inches from the face of Phillips

I don't know how Phillips didn't clock him one. It's a natural reaction sometimes. I'm white, ashamed to say since Dumpy's reign, but the white kid in this video got off easy. It's about time somebody shuts these ignorant, arrogant assholes the eff up.

[cwydro]

73. I remember Sandmann smirking, but not remembering any screaming?

Maybe I’m thinking of a different situation.

[treestar]

74. Is there any legal holding that allows that to be the law

That a black man can beat you for your words being offensive?

What else does that apply to? Can I beat up someone who calls me a bitch? Or a cracker?

The law steps in about breaches of the peace, even for offensive touching. Words, however, are not enough.

[tonedevil]

77. I think the kick was sufficent. /nt

[treestar]

93. It is in question whether he was kicked

but at any rate, he used way too much force. The amount of force must be "reasonable. "

If the guy were a cop, we'd see demands that he be fired. Let's not have double standards like right wingers.

[tonedevil]

98. A person standing in line...

at a convenience store being assaulted by someone else in that line is held to a lesser standard than the police should. White guy was menacing and he escalated to violence when the other fellow dropped his can. IANAL but I think there was more than enough provocation to justify every minute of that beating.
You have said you think this was unreasonable force. How much force, if any, do you think the situation required?

[StarfishSaver]

107. If that were a black man taunting a white man that way and the white man shot him

people here would be seeing it in a whole different light. They would insist that the black man was threatening and menacing and the white man was in justifiable fear of his life.

We all know that's true, whether or not everyone wants to admit it.

[Solomon]

34. You need your eyes checked. The white guy

assaulted the black guy first when he kicked his hand. That's not slim justification.

So sick of black people not allowed to stand their ground. We got fucking rights too.

[SlogginThroughIt]

38. Waiting for him to reply to this.

Clearly this guy has some strong feelings about why the black guy should get in trouble for this. So much so he didn’t even watch the video or wasn’t paying attention to what the white guy did.

But will vehemently defend his point that the black guy broke the law.

Blindness.

[billh58]

46. I hope MIRT is following

this "conversation."

[jayfish]

48. Me Too.

Because I know how MIRT works.

[billh58]

49. So do I...

[treestar]

75. reasonable force

I didn't see that he got kicked in the hand, but that wouldn't be enough for that bang to the head and for the rest of the punching.

[IsItJustMe]

83. After being kicked and called a n****, the AA guy stood up for himself.

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[treestar]

92. He used too much force

I see the emotional appeal, but legally, it's a non-starter. Words are just words. They never justify violence. Fighting words are words that can be prohibited (though the Court has backed off on the Chaplinsky doctrine) but there aren't a defense to starting physical contact.

Post-Chaplinsky
The court has continued to uphold the doctrine but also steadily narrowed the grounds on which fighting words are held to apply. In Street v. New York (1969),[4] the court overturned a statute prohibiting flag-burning and verbally abusing the flag, holding that mere offensiveness does not qualify as "fighting words". In similar manner, in Cohen v. California (1971), Cohen's wearing a jacket that said "fuck the draft" did not constitute uttering fighting words since there had been no "personally abusive epithets".

In the 1970s, the Court held that the use of offensive and insulting language, even when directed at specific individuals, is not fighting words:

Gooding v. Wilson (1972): "White son of a bitch, I'll kill you".
Rosenfeld v. New Jersey (1972): "motherfucker".
Lewis v. New Orleans (1972): "god damn mother fucker".
Brown v. Oklahoma (1972): "mother fucking fascist", "black mother fucking pig".
In Collin v. Smith (1978) Nazis displaying swastikas and wearing military-style uniforms marching through a community with a large Jewish population, including survivors of German concentration camps, were not using fighting words.

In R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992) and Virginia v. Black (2003) the Court held that cross burning is not fighting words.

In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protesters' speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

[wellst0nev0ter]

99. We get it

You want to protect white people who say the N word. No need to dwell on it

[mtnsnake]

102. WTH?

He could've killed that asshole but he laid off him after he taught that vile racist the lesson he deserved.

[SlogginThroughIt]

35. That kid kicked the black guys hand first.

Watch the video. After verbally accosting him when the black dude drops his can the white boy kicks his hand. AND THEN tells the black dude to hit him. Multiple times.

Assault? GTFOH.

[Duppers]

42. Are you serious?

[mcar]

58. Assault?

White guy called him the N word several times and threatened him. The black man's reaction was fully justified.

[uponit7771]

76. Lets not enable racist leaders by minimizing their permissive effects

[Cinnamonspice]

79. I agree that assault is wrong, but people are fed up with being dehumanized.

I cannot imagine being at a store and somebody randomly yelling out abusive stuff at me like that. Imagine that happening off and on due to the color of your skin. Sooner or later, you might crack.

[IsItJustMe]

82. You are worried about an assault here? Seriously!!! WTF!!!

[tenderfoot]

109. LOL

See... this is why Trump won!

[Blue Owl]

4. Time to take out the trash

The maskless trash, I might add...

[Deuxcents]

5. Ok..Ok

What a dick he is. Most deserving of his smack down and a good job on the restraint the gentleman showed.

[Demovictory9]

112. "we good"

[StarlightGold]

7. Yesssssss!

Bullies and vile racists like that need to begin (again) fearing the consequences of being...well...bullies and racists.

[Zeus69]

11. Tremendous restraint

By the black guy after a few stiff punches to the face... Can't say I'd have done same.

He should've made the idiot drunk pay for the Monster drink.

[3catwoman3]

13. Reminds me of the clip of Buzz Aldrin...

...taking out the moon landing denial jerk.

I suspect most of us here do not condone actions such as these, but there are moments when you just want to say, “Yesssssssssssss!”

[RealityCheque]

26. 100%

Agreement on not condoning violence, but you’re absolutely right it felt good to watch the Trumpanzy get his due!

[calimary]

59. Yes, it did. Gotta admit.

With the proverbial "can o' whoop-ass."

[OAITW r.2.0]

14. I believe this known as "getting your clock cleaned". LOL. nt

[Takket]

16. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. This is precisely the reason these assholes travel in heavily armed groups. It's never a good....

idea to write a check when "your boys" ain't around to help you cash it.

[David__77]

18. People's justice.

...

[RealityCheque]

23. If the moron racist...

Goes to the ER or a doctor and he is asked what happened maybe one of the flies from Pence’s head will be there and give us an update. My guess is that the Trumpanzy got into his jacked up pickup and cried all the way home.

[Bayard]

25. Santa came early

And he packs a punch!!


Just glad the Maskless Wonder wasn't packing a pistol.

[RealityCheque]

27. The only thing

That coward was “packing” would take a microscope to find! Just ask his gf! 😳

[Ferrets are Cool]

43. Incels don't have gf's

[RealityCheque]

87. Oops

Too much egg not for me!

[Johnny2X2X]

37. Got what he deserved

Violence is not the answer, but I can’t judge the guy who lit him up.

This was definitely a Trumpster thinking it’s now OK to be racist. Really shocked his face wasn’t split open from the can of Red Bull being exploding in it. Got off easy.

[Soxfan58]

47. I don't condone violence!

But that was sweet!

[yaesu]

50. taking out the trash that tRump left behind can be very satisfying but never throw the first punch

It can legally & financially mess up your life.

[LudwigPastorius]

55. That punk shoulda stayed in the mountains plucking his banjo.

[HughBeaumont]

101. Sadly, this high AF dummy ain't from no mountains.

This happened at an Elyria, Ohio Circle K. Elyria is reflective of lots of Rust Belt enclaves - formerly Democratic and labor and now taken over by Roadkill Jim Jones' cult that got sold the Magic Trickle Down Beans. Lots of drugs and alcoholism going on here. It's what happens when there's no economic opportunity, unfortunately.

[LudwigPastorius]

104. I like to think he's from the metaphorical "mountains".

To whit, he's a denizen of Mount Cousin Fucker.

[HughBeaumont]

106. Oh, no doubt his ancestors are straight "mountain".

[IsItJustMe]

110. I swear, after all these years after seeing that movie, it still disturbs me.

That was some messed up sh!t!!! LOL

[tiredtoo]

57. Link is blocked. N/T

[mtnsnake]

95. No it's not. You just have to click on "View" once you get to the tweet itself.

[nilram]

61. And yet, as a tweeter pointed out,

You see how they only say "hey man that's enough" AFTER the black guy was being provoked multiple times. They did nothing to stop the other guy from spewing slurs tho

Link to tweet

I think the guy went too light on him. He still had a bit of a smirk on his face after he got up—and he was able to get up.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

81. Somebody heard some bells but they weren't Christmas bells

The jerk needs to thank his lucky stars that he was able to walk away. That beat down could have been a lot worse.

[Roc2020]

63. He obviously got away with that sort of behavior

before. I bet he will think twice before trying it again.

[efhmc]

64. Says its view is limited.

[Hoyt]

66. Hope he didn't hurt his fist pounding on the white wing POS.

[d_b]

67. the bell

[TeamPooka]

68. While I'm not a big fan of violence that man's self defence act was satisfying

[Hav]

71. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do

He was very aggressive and was ready himself to get violent. It's probably not the first time he tried to bully other people.
You can only push a person so far until you get a reaction. And it was glorious. From the n-word to "Ok, ok, I'm good" in a few seconds.

[Marcuse]

88. A risky response to provocation. That's how Zimmerman baited Trayvon.

[Solly Mack]

94. Don't start no shit won't be no shit.

[mtnsnake]

96. The punk asked for it and he got exactly what he bargained for

The best thing is that he'll have to live that one down forever now that he's famous on social media video for being such a useless racist asshole AND for getting the shit kicked out of him for his efforts.

I can only imagine how many other times he did the same exact thing to other people and got away with it. This time he didn't get away with it thanks to that guy who took care of business.

[LudwigPastorius]

103. This video should follow that prick every day of his miserable life.

Certainly every time he tries to apply for a job.

If he's lucky, the KKK might need lackeys to clean their outhouses.

[dalton99a]

97. Most excellent.

[HughBeaumont]

100. Fucking Elyria.

This is from my butthole Trumper state, in my formerly Democratic county. This shit is what took it over; think-they're-invincible meth-huffers fresh off a night of bodily destruction looking for more. What a goddamned embarrassment.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

108. That was an unfortunate outcome. I guess he took the guy for a habitual line

stepper:

[electric_blue68]

111. I'm not a total pacifist. Still I prefer non-violence

over violence.

But the racist taunting white dude took it to
another level once he kicked the black man.

It was... satisfyingly to see someone like that get a beat down. Been the reverse? The AA man would have been very maimed, or dead. So... yeah. These "permissioned" racist have been run amok these past 4 years.

And who knows how much earlier in the day racism this AA man already had to endure? Final straw?

And as someone said may be this might just stop a few if they're not jacked up on something.

[Vinnie From Indy]

115. Play stupid games...

...win stupid prizes.

[BMW2020RT]

117. Deserved.

[IronLionZion]

118. Merry Christmas...or something

[Iggo]

119. I wish people wouldn't ask for it so explicitly.

Makes it real hard come out against punching a racist in the face.

Not impossible, but reeeeaaaalll hard.