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TomCADem

(17,837 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 05:57 PM Dec 2020

Another Reason Why Trump Might Be Forcing Out Cabinet Members at the 11th Hour

Trump has gone through a rash of firings toward the tail end of his Presidency, which do not really make sense. It would seem to weaken a President to have less Senate approved cabinet heads as a lame duck. However, if the goal is to limit the risk that he might be declared unable to perform his duties such as by actively plotting a coup, then it starts to make sense.

Amendment XXV
Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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Another Reason Why Trump Might Be Forcing Out Cabinet Members at the 11th Hour (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2020 OP
Trumpy is lucky that I'm not Joe Biden. LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #1
'Ya know........ MyOwnPeace Dec 2020 #2
+1 2naSalit Dec 2020 #4
What "rash" of firings? onenote Dec 2020 #3

LuvNewcastle

(17,911 posts)
1. Trumpy is lucky that I'm not Joe Biden.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 06:10 PM
Dec 2020

I would use the Patriot Act on his ass as soon as I was sworn in. I'd have him put in a hole so deep he'd never get any bars on that little phone of his. I'd tell MAGA Nation he was an enemy combatant, or whatever the language is in the law, and that motherfucker would never see light again.

MyOwnPeace

(17,609 posts)
2. 'Ya know........
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 06:40 PM
Dec 2020

in this time of "Peace and Good Will Towards Men" - I like the way you think!

onenote

(46,228 posts)
3. What "rash" of firings?
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 06:54 PM
Dec 2020

Barr. Esper. That's it. Two out of 15. I suppose you could include the Secretary of Homeland Security, which hasn't had a confirmed Secretary since Nielsen resigned/was fired, but that happened over a year and a half ago.

Every other cabinet office is headed by a Senate-confirmed secretary.

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