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kairos12

(12,850 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 07:55 PM Dec 2020

Reform of pardons, norms, accepted practices, answers to subpoenas by Dems

Screw all that. Trump doesn't get to monkey the entire system, and then, the Reich Wing ensnares Biden and the WH in "reforms" brought on by the excesses of the Orange Baboon Ass.

Try out those reforms on any future Reich Wing Administration.

Retribution is a governing practice for the Dems now. Anything short of that is appeasement.



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Reform of pardons, norms, accepted practices, answers to subpoenas by Dems (Original Post) kairos12 Dec 2020 OP
pardons cant be reformed. drray23 Dec 2020 #1
Let's see who else he pardons Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #4
again !! have you read what i wrote ?? drray23 Dec 2020 #5
Yes, I did. Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #6
sadly i think this time has passed. drray23 Dec 2020 #7
Right now I'm just glad Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #8
Prosecutions of treason or sedition, bribery, obstruction of justice, etc. triron Dec 2020 #2
Thank you! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #3

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. pardons cant be reformed.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:06 PM
Dec 2020

that would require a constitutional amendment. 2/3 of both senate and house, 3/4 of states legislatures . not going to happen.

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
4. Let's see who else he pardons
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:23 PM
Dec 2020

before we say it's not possible to pass a constitutional amendment.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
5. again !! have you read what i wrote ??
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:31 PM
Dec 2020

the "passing" involves convincing 2/3 of senate and house to vote for it then 3/4 of state legislatures to do as well.
This is impossible.

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
6. Yes, I did.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:36 PM
Dec 2020

amendments are not "impossible" to pass. It has been done before. Difficult, yes, but not impossible. Like I said, let's see who else he pardons. At this point, nothing should surprise us.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
7. sadly i think this time has passed.
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 09:00 PM
Dec 2020

over the last few decades the country has become so polarized its not going to happen any time soon . last one was in 1992 more than 28 years ago and was not controversial, it was about forbiding congress to change their salaries in the middle of an existing congress. Incidentally, it was proposed in 1789... we had quite a few passed in the 60's and 7o's .

All that was before internet and right wing radio/tv . Nowadays I cant imagine any way to get there. We no longer have reasonable politicians .

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Thank you!
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 08:18 PM
Dec 2020

We don't need to to overhaul the system. We need to elect leaders who can be trusted not to destroy it.

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