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Catherine Herridge
@CBS_Herridge
#Nashville
Law enforcement sources tell @CBSNews they have found what appear to be human remains near the site of the explosion. They have not indicated whether remains are from someone connected to explosion or from innocent victim + intelligence source tells #CBS
@PatMilton14
DURHAM D
(33,054 posts)Do we know if anyone was in the van when it exploded?
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)to the vehicle.
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)figuring out stuff like this.
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,807 posts)and then asking the DMV who owns this VIN.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Guess well see.
anneboleyn
(5,626 posts)from international terrorists like isis etc or the horrific OKC bomb. IF the intent was to strike the AT&T building, which some have been suggesting on Reddit and du, then the perp may be (or have been if this involves a suicide) a Qanon nutter. The recorded message blasting from the RV was very unusual as far as most of these bombings go (though I dont know if that was actually intended to avoid casualties as just blasting evacuate immediately in such a chaotic manner from some sort of sound system rigged up in an RV is not going to result in people leaving their endangered homes or businesses in an orderly fashion...nor is it anything like the calls to alert law enforcement that one would see in the old days of the ira or other similar groups)
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)to evacuate. Some victims were hunkered down in their apartments, and only left when police came and told them to get out. Some ran after the gunshots stopped, but never heard the bomb warning. The bomber obviously didn't want a mass casualty event, but had it not been for police officers, there would have been many injured or dead. This freak bomber, if still alive, is probably patting themselves on the back for saving so many lives.
Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)underpants
(196,498 posts)to see what they can pick. Get new leads.
Id bet this was a homeless person just in the wrong spot. Ignored the warning because it sounds so ridiculous anyway.
With that little traffic and a vehicle what would stand out in any urban situation I wouldnt be surprised if this isnt a data mining situation now. See where activities pick up on line. Let them make connections for you.
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)residents. The bomb squad was in the area, as were other first responders. No, it's not a random homeless person. It's either the bomber, first responder or resident, remains.
underpants
(196,498 posts)Weve been busy all day ignoring pretty much everything.
I highly recommend the Christmas Chronicles with Kurt Russell.
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)Hope you've had a wonderful day. My 77 y/o sister doesn't do mornings, even Christmas, so I'm just getting things going here. I've been watching murder mysteries and keeping track of news.
hamsterjill
(17,577 posts)I actually liked them both very much.
Merry Christmas!!
Chemisse
(31,348 posts)It seems likely it was someone who was inside the RV at the time of the explosion.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)even in upper-scale locales, there are streets lined with RVs that people are living in. RVs parked almost anywhere wouldn't look out of place or unusual.
intheflow
(30,179 posts)This could have been done with a Ford Econoline van, a pick-up with a cap on the back, or even a strategically-packed Ford Pinto. The vehicle of choice is not the problem.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)if someone parked a rental truck at the front door of a business and walked away from it. Now all large vehicles will be suspect to much of the general public. I'll bet right now cops are checking out every large parked vehicle in the city of Nashville with bomb sniffing dogs.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(27,461 posts)Thats what I tell loudmouth trumpanzees with their civil war talk - wait until an up-armored Humber busts through your trailer home door.
Polybius
(21,901 posts)I wanted you to be right, but still not much news.
NightWatcher
(39,376 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)I hope it's the bomber, and not just someone walking by.
Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)underpants
(196,498 posts)Like within a half block.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)Whoever did this went out of their way to avoid casualties and police had the area pretty well clear of people when the bombing occurred.
Edit to add: this, to me, was pretty clearly an attack on the AT&T building itself
anneboleyn
(5,626 posts)that I wonder if the bomber is a qanon type (they have a series of bizarre conspiracies that link modern telecommunications with all of the other Qanon legends I cant remember how all of it supposedly links together)
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)It certainly could be a Q nutter, but it could be any terrorist who wanted to disrupt a telecommunications network. It certainly worked. Emergency Services lines are out all over middle TN and BNA grounded flights because of it as well.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)underpants
(196,498 posts)The area looks a lot like parts of Richmond. Downtown - restaurants - renovated buildings into apartments. There are always homeless people here and there. Sleep in this doorway or have a spot in say an alley.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)Some nut who couldnt take their conspiracies not going to plan.
underpants
(196,498 posts)Everyone will know their name and they avoid really hurting anyone else.
If it wasnt suicide, this could be a data mining operation for authorities. Someone is going to crow about this in some way. It could lead to making connections otherwise hard to find.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)But this RV was blasting out a countdown and Metro PD had the area pretty well cleaned out.
There is a not insignificant homeless population downtown though, so it could be.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Just kinda catching up on this story.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)Then this RV started blasting out a message with a creepy ass voice warning people to evacuate and it did that until the explosion.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That seems odd.
Or did they do so because of the RV blasting the message, and if so, why didn't they stop the RV?
Decided it was safer to evacuate a bunch of people than confront the RV?
It's all quite odd.
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)I know folks who live in that area around second avenue that evacuated when the warnings started the countdown at 15mins. It's all super weird bro. Weird, well orchestrated, and targeted
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)I know that at least one witness called it in to authorities when they heard the gun shots about an hour beforehand. Very few in the area heard the recorded message coming from the RV prior to the explosion. First responders were evacuating the immediate area when the bomb went off.
wnylib
(26,016 posts)damage to AT&T. 911 and other emergency systems are down in the area and service is affected in parts of Kentucky, too.
I'm wondering now if this was a suicide. But why not do it in an isolated area if the person did not want to harm anyone else? Unless it was a suicide attack on AT&T?
Docreed2003
(18,714 posts)Who knows though on motivation! You're correct on emergency service lines; they are down for much of the midstate right now and apparently parts of Alabama and KY. I know some folks with landlines that are down in the area as well
wnylib
(26,016 posts)to take out power stations and wondering if there is a connection. However, this bombing seems to be well planned and executed while the power station plot was a bunch of teens planning to use rifles. Big difference in sophistication.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Cable News Network (CNN) is an American news-based pay television channel owned by CNN Worldwide, a unit of the WarnerMedia News & Sports division of AT&T's WarnerMedia. It was founded in 1980 by American media proprietor Ted Turner and Reese Schonfeld as a 24-hour cable news channel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN
Too early to tell, but there could be a connection.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)We'll how this shakes out.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
I hope LE is taking THAT into consideration also.
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Chichiri
(4,667 posts)From what I've read, police were first alerted to the area by the sound of gunshots at 5:30am, and the bomb went off an hour later at 6:30am.
C_U_L8R
(49,384 posts)It would not surprise if one of these trumpist bozos accidentally blew themselves up.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)Sometimes they do spectacular suicides especially if they have a grievance.
wnylib
(26,016 posts)634-5789
(4,675 posts)RV, recording warning of a blast, the time fof day, in a near empty area, what could be the reasoning for this? Makes no sense.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)They knocked out 911 and cell phone service in parts of 2 states.
Who ever did this put a lot of money and planning into it.
Hopefully security is being ramped up at all communication hubs across the country, but with Doofus in charge, they will probably have to work around the traitor and his lackeys to protect the public.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Knocking out 911 is going to result in people dying.
So ... this person wants people to die of random emergencies, but not due to being bombed ...
And this makes sense becaaaaauuuuuse?
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)The time and place, recordings played and the size of the blast show there was significant planning involved. The reddish building is an old telecom building that still houses some communications infrastructure. The size of the blast wasn't from some random wankers making black powder pipe bombs. Probably a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, thus the RV and not a car.
A warning, perhaps? That they can hit infrastructure and kill people...if they want to? To me that points to someone domestic with domestic sensibilities about collateral damage. Al Qaeda and ISIS don't do warnings and collateral damage is a feature, not a bug for them. The remains may simply be someone in the wrong place at the wrong time A number of downtown apartments in that area. And a number of homeless people wander Nashville's streets. Maybe the bomber in some bizarre suicide. Like a quarter finished jigsaw puzzle.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)orangecrush
(30,261 posts)Planning on raising hell in an area, having communications down would be a huge advantage.
These idiots should keep in mind how the unabomber spent the remainder of his life after capture
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Supermax was probably not all that different from how he lived life on the outside, and someone cooked for him.
Course, that life is ... not for everyone.
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)And Happy Holidays to you!
npk
(3,701 posts)as a pre-cursor to a larger planned attack. Network of cell towers outside AT&T building in Nashville would not have been seen as a major target of terrorists and would have few if any security protocols in place. The terrorists or group of terrorists may have wanted to see what the aftermath of going after a soft target might look like. Targeting cell towers at a regional hub could give them information that could be used to plan something much bigger in the future. They could have also wanted to see how much damage could be done from this attack if again they might be planning something on a larger scale in the future.
Remember the first attack on the World Trade Center was a small bomb placed in a Van. It didn't bring down the building obviously, but it gave the terrorist some idea of what kind of devastation could be caused by a bomb in a Van.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Crazy never made sense to me neither, but just look at the last four years. It is what it is.
intheflow
(30,179 posts)wanted to target property and/or infrastructure. Christmas Day brings maximum news coverage while minimizing possible deaths. This could just as easily be an anticapitalism protest as a Qanon attack.
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)I wonder if this was some sort of suicide or murder/suicide and the perp was in the RV.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)If they were they could've been in the RV itself unseen not the truck cab.
JanMichael
(25,725 posts)To throw off being caught for being a serial killer. The remains are that of 6 victims not one. Not a political act but a weird fetish crime!
Is this Halloween????
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That crossed my mind too, but I think it's highly unlikely after some pondering.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)evidence trails of their very elaborate demolition, would probably not be the best way to evade capture.
Occam's Razor also comes to mind.

PCIntern
(28,369 posts)This is part of a well-thought out plan.
Those creeps who wanted to kidnap the governor of Michigan were going to blow a bridge to slow police pursuit. Not everything has to be spur of the moment, line gunman stuff. There are conspiracies afoot.