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Trump accepted bribes for many of the pardons he has so far given. He is such a despicable character that I wouldn't put anything past him. I also cant believe that all the executions that he has been pushing for over the last few months hasn't been more publicized. How can he pardon murderers (eg Blackwater) yet have all these executions of people whose crimes weren't as bad. This guy needs to be facing a judge and jury in court.
northoftheborder
(7,637 posts)Could have been votes, could have been witholding information, could have been money
DarleenMB
(408 posts)He has those multimillion dollar loans to pay off in a few months.
Baitball Blogger
(52,346 posts)Michael Flynn jump started the attempt to establish martial law. That was the payback.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)He has a power to give pardons. He expects something in return.
He did not get black votes. He will execute as many black death row inmates as he can.
Enough people did not vote for him. Screw you, no stimulus check.
Karadeniz
(24,746 posts)Trump has never done one thing out of the goodness of his heart...he has never had one.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)TXPaganBanker
(210 posts)Firmly believes that Trump released the Blackwater Four in trade for facilitating Biden's assassination. Trump has made several references to Biden being taken out on his 3rd day in office.
LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)that Trump pardoned those killers to try to curry favor with the military. (They were all former military before joining Blackwater.)
He still wants the military to back him if he tries some bullshit like Michael Flynn is suggesting.
The irony of that is, I'm sure most military personnel are disgusted with the crimes of those pardoned.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)and remember, Blackwater got a contract for something in Africa. Nobody is discussing this yet. I think trump has his own private Army going on.
wnylib
(26,016 posts)Are you suggesting Blackwater, or whatever name they go by now?
usaf-vet
(7,811 posts)..... continue to finance them?
wnylib
(26,016 posts)Only somewhat because there might be someone with enough money who would like to support Trump. Some individual, group, or nation.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Theres a reason trump has set up thousands of LLCs. Cant follow the money.
I have no doubt every single pardon was paid for.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)Every pardon he gave--bought & paid for. Every contract he had a hand in awarding went to whomever agreed to the biggest kickbacks to him. Every chance he's has to sell favor and influence, he's done it. He's as guilty as they come.
quakerboy
(14,868 posts)Trumps gotta be worried about payback from the us Intel services for his betrayals and russian services for his failures
StClone
(11,869 posts)
It is a fake but maybe prescient.
housecat
(3,138 posts)Squinch
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Hekate
(100,133 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)whatever.
calimary
(90,021 posts)I wouldn't put ANYTHING past him by now. Including something like this.
He doesn't give anything away for free. There's always some sort of "value" exchanged. Some string attached. Someone's mouth remaining closed. I think that's why Paul Manafort stayed mum. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd worked that one out, early-on. He knew he'd get a pardon.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Trump does nothing that isn't transactional.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Not part of Trumps inner circle, not involved in the Russia scandal, they don't even appear to have met before. But the guy does have a lot of money from a lifetime of grift, and a penchant for bribery.
Philip Esformes was a former Miami Beach healthcare mogul convicted last year of playing a central role in one of the nations biggest Medicare fraud cases and using his ill-gotten millions to pay bribes for favors, engage in money laundering and other crimes. Trump commuted his 20-year sentence. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article248044835.html
dchill
(42,660 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)dawn5651
(774 posts)FakeNoose
(41,634 posts)Chump is the most corrupt president ever in our history.
Some people on DU dispute whether he's the WORST president. But nobody disputes that he's the most corrupt ever. He will sell anything and everything - or else he'll steal it now and sell it later when nobody's looking. Also - he's got other people doing this same including his own children and son-in-law.

Mopar151
(10,348 posts)His Plan C.3 may be a safe harbor in the Persian Gulf. Having Blackwater around for facilitating fuckery? Sure, it's a big swamp, what the hell.....
mgardener
(2,360 posts)They were rewarded for their silence.
But since they cannot plead the fifth anymore, it should get interesting!
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Oh, my, pink, I agree with you 100%. He needs to be behind bars.
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)Ask Jared, he probably set up a Pardon shell company.
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LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)he's been accepting bribes for political favors from corporations and heads of state for the past four years. "I'd like you to do me a favor though."
I have no doubt that Trump was issuing Executive Orders and guiding U.S. foreign policy based on how much cash he's received under the table.
If they haven't been expunged and erased by now, every single phone call from the Oval Office needs to be assessed by an independent counsel, and every Trump bank account, domestic and off shore, needs to be gone over with a fine toothed comb.
relayerbob
(7,429 posts)Nitram
(27,749 posts)they expected a pardon from him. No need for a bribe in this quid pro quo.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And he uses many methods getting the money, one being them giving campaign PAC contributions using numerous sources to hide it. He doesn't do anything without some kind of a payoff for himself.
Thunderbeast
(3,819 posts)We are entering the fifth year of this conspiracy, and the pardons are part of the ongoing obstruction of justice. Pardons granted with corrupt intent as part of an on-going conspiracy do not enjoy un-restrained Presidential privilege (as some have postulated).
While the pardons apply to the underlying charges, the conspiracy to obstruct justice is alive and well. That crime is, and will continue to be chargable.
Totally Tunsie
(11,852 posts)tried, and sentenced to 14 years in prison?
Remember...tRump commuted Blagojevich's prison sentence. Blagojevich was released, having served about eight years of his 14-year sentence.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)or whatever they call themselves now. Blackwater can send the message that they take care of their own. It would not be the first time Blackwater has worked as domestic mercenaries.
llashram
(6,269 posts)needs 450,000,000 that we know of. It's coming due soon. His base it seems is being continually fleeced for that money. Also, these are the known loans coming due. He probably has some kneecap(his kneecaps)loans out there that Jarad and Ivanka grifted people/organizations for while being his 'advisors' travelling all over the world 'selling' the WH brand to cover some of those trump family loans. Clothes, perfumes and only God knows what else. One report penned this amount
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/14/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-revenue-income-2018
As a vet, the story of the people killed by the pardoned mercenaries of Blackwater saddened and sickened me. The child killed with his father running to see if he was safe who opened the bullet-riddled car door and his son fell out spilling his brains out on his fathers' feet.
And who can forget the 'dark prince' Stephen Miller? He set up immigration policies for trump. Cages, the kidnapping of children who were incarcerated away from their parents. Hundreds who probably are never going to be reunited with family. Yep, good old Stephen's handiwork. And I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of stories like this from within his administrations 'appointees' ruling the little fiefdoms. These last 4 years have truly has been been an unprecedented clusterfuck of biblical proportions
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Chemisse
(31,348 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)must be a ruthless bulldog with an unwaivering lust for justice and the rule of law.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)My main curiosity is how blatant it will be.