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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBishop Talbert Swan: White evangelicals spent decades warning America about the coming of the
antichrist.
When he finally showed up, they voted for him.
Link to tweet
Tweeted four days ago, and I missed it then, but he retweeted it this morning.
bluestarone
(22,179 posts)dalton99a
(94,125 posts)And they still worship the motherfucker
MontanaMama
(24,722 posts)Ivanka, Lara and jr. the grift will continue.
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)Are they so stoopid they can't see him for what he is?
Or so craven and sociopathic themselves?
Or brainwashed by internal or external forces?
64 million dollar question!
I guess some of each, that is, there are subgroups that fall into these and likely other categories.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,409 posts)Yes, yes, and yes.
soldierant
(9,354 posts)stevesinpa
(144 posts)they are brainwashed, fromchildhood most of them, by their church leadership. this leads them to be apathetic to anyone different from them. this grows into using their version of god and their bible, which few of them actually read, to defend any of their hateful ideas. and since they are brainwashed, they never learn to think critically. which makes them stupid.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)I have been saying this for four years now!!! The plurality of American Christianity is nothing more than Republicans carrying around bibles saying they are Christian. Nothing about them what so ever reminds me of anything I have ever read about from the bible. But hey, if it makes them feel better, whatever gets them to the light. I know better however.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Christian In Name Only
plimsoll
(1,690 posts)Im not going to pick sides here, but we took a broad brush to all Muslims, and they at least spoke out against the evil done in their name. Pointing out that these people seem to be violating their own supposed beliefs and are intent on breaking our secular society, we have to ask why the get a pass.
stevesinpa
(144 posts)this is a book where the hero (yahweh) murders the entire planet, except for one family and representatives of every other animal on earth. he later oblierates two entire cities. he sends his minions to destroy entire cultures. he rewards men who have other men killed so they can take the widows. (king david did this)
he endorsed slavery and gave rules for owning other human beings, and how you can beat them and pass them on to your descendants.
a hero that ordered his biggest fan to murder his own son, only to change his mind at the last minute to prove his devotion to him. (Abraham)
a hero that sacrificed his own son so he could forgive humanity for sinning against...himself. when someone wrongs me, i dont need any type of sacrifice to forgive them. at most, a sincere apology is enough, but i'd rather just not hold that negativity in me and i forgive. but then again, i'm not a so called god.
my point being, if one reads the bible critically, you will see it is not some great moral tome but an ode to the most evil character in all of fiction.
lame54
(39,771 posts)Used the word Orange
How were we to know?
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Paladin
(32,354 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)Swan is spot on!
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)crucify Jesus if he came back calling him a "socialist".
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)that's funny, I'm a Capricorn!!!
NotANeocon
(465 posts)A Non-theist speaking to you in your own language:
Certainly any one who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. If you do not use the intelligence with which God endowed your mind to resist believing impossibilities, you will not be able to use the sense of injustice which God planted in your heart to resist a command to do evil. Once a single faculty of your soul has been tyrannized, all the other faculties will submit to the same fate. This has been the cause of all the religious crimes that have flooded the earth. Voltaire
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)an antichrist who could "fool even the elect". And look, they ended up with exactly that.
questionseverything
(11,840 posts)The anti christ fools everyone
Trump is the great deceiver that ushers in the anti christ
Either way he is certainly a lousy president
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)As the story goes.
They were polite in their sophist-o-cation.
Smiling , but never too loudly.
Acting in civilized manner;
an illusion of gentleness always fighting to get their way.
While the people see,
the people know,
the people wait,
the people say,
the closing of your doors will never shut us out.
the closing of your doors can only shut you in.
We know the predator.
We see them feed on us.
We are aware, to starve the beast is our destiny.
The times they were kind,
they were polite,.
but never honest.
We see your technological society devour you before your very eyes.
We hear your anguished cries exhalting greed through progress.
While you seek material advances,
the sound of flowers dying,
carry messages through the wind,
trying to tell you about balance
and your safety.
But your minds are chained to your machines
and the strings dangling from your puppeteers' hands.
Turning you, twisting you into forms and confusions
beyond your control.
Your mind for a job,
your mind for a TV,
your mind for a hairdryer,
you mind for consumption.
With your atom bombs,
your material bombs,
your drug bombs,
your racial bombs,
your cla** bombs,
your s**ist bombs,
your ageist bombs
devastating,
your natural shelters.
Making you homeless on Earth.
Chasing you into illusions.
Fooling you.
Making you pretend
you can run away
from the ravishing of your spirit.
While the sound of flowers dying,
carry messages through the wind,
trying to tell you about balance
and your safety.
Trying to isolate us in a dimensions called loneliness.
Leading us into the trap.
Believe in their power,
but not in ourselves.
Piling us with guilt.
Always taking the blame.
Greed chasing out the balance.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.
Economic deities seizing power through illusions.
Created armies are justified.
Cla** systems are democracy.
God listens to war mongers' prayers.
Tyranny is here.
Divide and conquer.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.
Greed apparent.
Insecurity, the happiness companion.
Genocide conceived in sophist-o-cation.
Techno-logic material civilization,
a rationalization,
replacing a way to live.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.
To God,
we hope you don't mind,
but we would like to talk to you.
There are some things we need to straighten out.
It's about these Christians.
They claim to be from your nation.
But,
Man,
you should see the things they do.
All.
The.
Time.
Blaming it on you.
Manifest destiny,
genocide,
maximized profit,
sterilization,
raping the Earth,
lying,
taking more they need,
in all the forms of the greed.
We ask them, "Why?"
They say, "It's God's will".
Damn, God.
They make it so hard.
Remember Jesus?
Would you send him back to them.
Tell them not to k** him.
Rather, they should listen.
Stop abusing His name
and yours.
We do not mean to be disrespectful,
but you know how it is.
Our people have their own ways.
We never even heard of you until not long ago.
Your representatives spoke magnificent things of you.
which we were willing to believe.
But from the way they acted,
we know you and we,
were being deceived.
We do not mean you or your Christian children any bad.
But you all came to take all we had.
We have not seen you.
But we have heard so much.
It is time for you to decide what life is worth.
We already remember,
but maybe you forgot.
Look at us.
Look at us, we are of earth and water.
Look at them,it is the same.
Look at us, we are suffering all these years.
Look at them, they are connected.
Look at us we, are in pain.
Look at them, surprised at our anger.
Look at us we, are struggling to survive.
Look at them, expecting sorrow be benign.
Look at us, we are the ones called pagan.
Look at them, on their arrival.
Look at us, we are called subversive.
Look at them, descending from name-callers.
Look at us, we wept sadly in the long dark.
Look at them, hiding in techno-logic light.
Look at us, we bury the generations.
Look at them, inventing the body count.
Look at us, we are older than America.
Look at them, chasing a fountain of youth.
Look at us, we are embracing Earth.
Look at them, clutching to day.
Look at us, we are living in the generations.
Look at them, existing in jobs and debt.
Look at us, we have escaped many times.
Look at them, they cannot remember.
Look at us we, are healing.
Look at them, their medicine is patented.
Look at us, we are trying.
Look at them, what are they doing?
Look at us, we are Children of Earth.
Look at them, WHO ARE THEY!?
burrowowl
(18,494 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(13,369 posts)Truth is we are locked on a planet with serial killers,destroyers control freaks,rapists sociopaths, narcissists and authoritarians perpetuating abuse and destroying that which they cannot have.
Yeah what are we going to do about dark triad personalities and thier evil ego driven god?
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)John Trudell had a way of pointing out the obvious that most refuse to look at.
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,369 posts)Is there is no cure to make them have empathy. Or force them to have empathy.
Nothing we can dump in the water supply,no shot or medication that can create empathy where there is none.
I think killing them or lobotomy or anything else that keeps them unable to abuse might be the only way to restore balance to the world.
It's awful but this issue is the most dangerous situation we have to deal with as a world we must find a way to fix it,heal it ,destroy it Or somehow render it powerless. These sociopaths are killing everything and killing our planet and they don't,won't,or can't care enough to stop.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)housecat
(3,138 posts)Marcuse
(9,010 posts)
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Marcuse
(9,010 posts)reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... A customer is the most important visitor on our premises.
Huh? What? Gandhi? I think not.
RVN VET71
(3,192 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)They don't care as long as it brings on the end times. Seriously, they're a damned cult and really think this way. I know, I grew up in it.
Hulk
(6,699 posts).... for their sake. the Hypocrites belong there for eternity
Skeptical Thomas
(82 posts)That is one serious burn!
Speaking of burning.....!
Lock him up.
(9,787 posts)plimsoll
(1,690 posts)Its an excuse to not be careful in our stewardship of the planet because Jesus is returning and we will be going to heaven. Its a threat Do as we say or Christ will come and disembowel you with all the other followers of Evil J. Transylvania*. It reassures the faithful that people who disagree with their sideshow barker of choice will get theirs.
Like so much else in GOP land it is a massive projection. Its coming because we want to bring it about, regardless of Christs involvement.
*Thank you Charlie Pierce.
GemState
(48 posts)a few years ago. I loved it but was never able to find one like it.
Joinfortmill
(21,167 posts)geralmar
(2,138 posts)Ronald
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Wilson
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Reagan
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When I pointed that out at a church meeting the air got distinctly frosty and I left the church soon after.
handmade34
(24,017 posts)to usher in the anti-Christ to bring about the end times and the return of Christ... some, for years, have been encouraging war and chaos and anti-Christ specifically to being about end times!!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)Evangelicals desperately WANT to see the AntiChrist in the flesh. Because it will show them that the Second Coming is soon approaching. They get to have their sacrament and eat it too. Its easy to have all the bases covered when you can lean on fantasy as well.
- If Trump is just Trump, he's a King Cyrus. He is a flawed vessel sent by God to do His will. No matter how many times he scoffs at God, and lies, and cheats, he doesn't realize that he's being used by God despite his character and actions.
- And if he turns out to actually be the Anti-Christ.....GREAT!!! It means the sooner the day they all float up in the sky and get their solid gold mansions.
handmade34
(24,017 posts)I seem to think you have to have grown up with a fanatical Christian mother to get it... of course they voted for him, no brainer
Cha
(319,079 posts)VOTED
OUT!
jimlup
(8,010 posts)They simply don't see the obvious and it would be funny if were not so destructive.
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)Mariana
(15,626 posts)Trump can't even fool the majority of American voters.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)souls for more God in the country & ending legal abortions.
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Roc2020
(1,787 posts)ogsball
(356 posts)They've said that Anti-Christ was going to be the great deceiver and would claim to be a person of great faith. It sort of makes sense that just like in the Bible the ones deceived would be those "religious folks."
American Christianity has a lot to answer for considering their actions over the last 200 or so years.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Just another fictional character created to control people.
Septua
(2,957 posts)..but Trump ain't him.
Initech
(108,783 posts)They worship the Old Testament god, and that god is a raging, bloviating, egomaniacal jackass. If you actually read the 10 Commandments, they're very Trumpian.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)And, as usual, the people who most desperately need the perspective will never see it.
The Blue Flower
(6,490 posts)They have nothing to do with Jesus' teachings.