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highplainsdem

(62,145 posts)
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:41 PM Dec 2020

Bishop Talbert Swan: White evangelicals spent decades warning America about the coming of the

antichrist.

When he finally showed up, they voted for him.













Tweeted four days ago, and I missed it then, but he retweeted it this morning.
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Bishop Talbert Swan: White evangelicals spent decades warning America about the coming of the (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2020 OP
SO TRUE! bluestarone Dec 2020 #1
They voted for him twice. dalton99a Dec 2020 #2
They'll be all on for the MF 45 spinoff editions as well. MontanaMama Dec 2020 #3
Absolutely perfect and right on. cilla4progress Dec 2020 #4
The answers to your questions are MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #5
In a Venn diagram kind of way, I think. soldierant Dec 2020 #39
they are all of the above. stevesinpa Dec 2020 #44
K&R for, it's on the way to the local radio wingnuts UTUSN Dec 2020 #6
LOL IsItJustMe Dec 2020 #7
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #9
Another Name CINO's IsItJustMe Dec 2020 #14
The silence of those "non-political Christians" doesn't speak well for the faith in general. plimsoll Dec 2020 #26
depends on which parts of the bible you read stevesinpa Dec 2020 #46
Decades of warning and they never... lame54 Dec 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Dec 2020 #43
Truer words were never spoken. (nt) Paladin Dec 2020 #10
Well, He Ain't Lyin'! ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #11
They would bdamomma Dec 2020 #12
Perfect music video that reflects your post IsItJustMe Dec 2020 #15
Funny bdamomma Dec 2020 #24
Earth to Bish!! NotANeocon Dec 2020 #13
They were right after all. According to the Evangels and scripture they were expecting NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #16
There are a whole lot of people he didn't fool questionseverything Dec 2020 #38
Well, they killed Jesus... 2naSalit Dec 2020 #17
Thanks for post! burrowowl Dec 2020 #47
Great poem I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2020 #51
Wish I knew. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #52
The saddest part of all I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2020 #55
Big K&R. nt tblue37 Dec 2020 #18
Same cultists, different name housecat Dec 2020 #19
I do not like your Christians. Marcuse Dec 2020 #20
Gandhi never said that Loki Liesmith Dec 2020 #21
Thanks. I'll attribute it to Bara Dada from now on. Marcuse Dec 2020 #31
Number 7 is pretty funny.... reACTIONary Dec 2020 #48
It was his brother Andy. They always get confused. RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #29
R&K Thank you. MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #22
Evangelicals are shameless about it too. Lunabell Dec 2020 #23
I really hope there is a hell.... Hulk Dec 2020 #25
BAM! Skeptical Thomas Dec 2020 #27
Here! Here! Lock him up. Dec 2020 #58
I still believe the whole end times schtick is just another part of the scam. plimsoll Dec 2020 #28
I saw this on a bumper sticker GemState Dec 2020 #30
Sadly true Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #32
Thought that was... geralmar Dec 2020 #33
but... that is the point handmade34 Dec 2020 #34
Exactly. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #40
"They...have their sacrament and eat it too" handmade34 Dec 2020 #41
Rt TY. Damn Straight.. & the Dems Voted Cha Dec 2020 #35
It is ironic indeed.... jimlup Dec 2020 #36
i guess they actually dont read the bible because it does say they will fall for it. bullimiami Dec 2020 #37
The Antichrist is supposed to fool the whole world into worshiping him. Mariana Dec 2020 #42
They sold their DownriverDem Dec 2020 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #60
Trump cannot be the AntiChrist. His IQ is too low. Roc2020 Dec 2020 #49
The Great Deceiver ogsball Dec 2020 #50
Not to sound like I'm defending Trump, but there is no "anti-christ". Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #53
There's an anti-christ... Septua Dec 2020 #56
That's because evangelicals don't worship Jesus. Initech Dec 2020 #54
I like it. I'm not sure how old it is, but I like it anyway. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #57
They worship the son of the Father of Lies The Blue Flower Dec 2020 #59
K&R mtnsnake Dec 2020 #61

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
3. They'll be all on for the MF 45 spinoff editions as well.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:47 PM
Dec 2020

Ivanka, Lara and jr. the grift will continue.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
4. Absolutely perfect and right on.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

Are they so stoopid they can't see him for what he is?

Or so craven and sociopathic themselves?

Or brainwashed by internal or external forces?

64 million dollar question!

I guess some of each, that is, there are subgroups that fall into these and likely other categories.

stevesinpa

(144 posts)
44. they are all of the above.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 07:01 PM
Dec 2020

they are brainwashed, fromchildhood most of them, by their church leadership. this leads them to be apathetic to anyone different from them. this grows into using their version of god and their bible, which few of them actually read, to defend any of their hateful ideas. and since they are brainwashed, they never learn to think critically. which makes them stupid.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
7. LOL
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:09 PM
Dec 2020

I have been saying this for four years now!!! The plurality of American Christianity is nothing more than Republicans carrying around bibles saying they are Christian. Nothing about them what so ever reminds me of anything I have ever read about from the bible. But hey, if it makes them feel better, whatever gets them to the light. I know better however.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
26. The silence of those "non-political Christians" doesn't speak well for the faith in general.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:12 PM
Dec 2020

I’m not going to pick sides here, but we took a broad brush to all Muslims, and they at least spoke out against the evil done in their name. Pointing out that these people seem to be violating their own supposed beliefs and are intent on breaking our secular society, we have to ask why the get a pass.

stevesinpa

(144 posts)
46. depends on which parts of the bible you read
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 07:36 PM
Dec 2020

this is a book where the hero (yahweh) murders the entire planet, except for one family and representatives of every other animal on earth. he later oblierates two entire cities. he sends his minions to destroy entire cultures. he rewards men who have other men killed so they can take the widows. (king david did this)
he endorsed slavery and gave rules for owning other human beings, and how you can beat them and pass them on to your descendants.
a hero that ordered his biggest fan to murder his own son, only to change his mind at the last minute to prove his devotion to him. (Abraham)
a hero that sacrificed his own son so he could forgive humanity for sinning against...himself. when someone wrongs me, i dont need any type of sacrifice to forgive them. at most, a sincere apology is enough, but i'd rather just not hold that negativity in me and i forgive. but then again, i'm not a so called god.
my point being, if one reads the bible critically, you will see it is not some great moral tome but an ode to the most evil character in all of fiction.

Response to lame54 (Reply #8)

NotANeocon

(465 posts)
13. Earth to Bish!!
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:30 PM
Dec 2020

A Non-theist speaking to you in your own language:

Certainly any one who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. If you do not use the intelligence with which God endowed your mind to resist believing impossibilities, you will not be able to use the sense of injustice which God planted in your heart to resist a command to do evil. Once a single faculty of your soul has been tyrannized, all the other faculties will submit to the same fate. This has been the cause of all the religious crimes that have flooded the earth. Voltaire

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
16. They were right after all. According to the Evangels and scripture they were expecting
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:44 PM
Dec 2020

an antichrist who could "fool even the elect". And look, they ended up with exactly that.

questionseverything

(11,840 posts)
38. There are a whole lot of people he didn't fool
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 05:56 PM
Dec 2020

The anti christ fools everyone

Trump is the great deceiver that ushers in the anti christ


Either way he is certainly a lousy president

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
17. Well, they killed Jesus...
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

As the story goes.



At times they were kind.
They were polite in their sophist-o-cation.
Smiling , but never too loudly.
Acting in civilized manner;
an illusion of gentleness always fighting to get their way.

While the people see,
the people know,
the people wait,
the people say,
the closing of your doors will never shut us out.
the closing of your doors can only shut you in.
We know the predator.
We see them feed on us.
We are aware, to starve the beast is our destiny.
The times they were kind,
they were polite,.
but never honest.

We see your technological society devour you before your very eyes.
We hear your anguished cries exhalting greed through progress.
While you seek material advances,
the sound of flowers dying,
carry messages through the wind,
trying to tell you about balance
and your safety.

But your minds are chained to your machines
and the strings dangling from your puppeteers' hands.
Turning you, twisting you into forms and confusions
beyond your control.

Your mind for a job,
your mind for a TV,
your mind for a hairdryer,
you mind for consumption.

With your atom bombs,
your material bombs,
your drug bombs,
your racial bombs,
your cla** bombs,
your s**ist bombs,
your ageist bombs
devastating,
your natural shelters.
Making you homeless on Earth.
Chasing you into illusions.
Fooling you.
Making you pretend
you can run away
from the ravishing of your spirit.

While the sound of flowers dying,
carry messages through the wind,
trying to tell you about balance
and your safety.

Trying to isolate us in a dimensions called loneliness.
Leading us into the trap.
Believe in their power,
but not in ourselves.
Piling us with guilt.
Always taking the blame.
Greed chasing out the balance.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.
Economic deities seizing power through illusions.
Created armies are justified.
Cla** systems are democracy.
God listens to war mongers' prayers.
Tyranny is here.
Divide and conquer.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.
Greed apparent.
Insecurity, the happiness companion.
Genocide conceived in sophist-o-cation.
Techno-logic material civilization,
a rationalization,
replacing a way to live.
Trying to isolate us in a dimension called loneliness.

To God,
we hope you don't mind,
but we would like to talk to you.

There are some things we need to straighten out.
It's about these Christians.
They claim to be from your nation.

But,
Man,
you should see the things they do.
All.
The.
Time.
Blaming it on you.
Manifest destiny,
genocide,
maximized profit,
sterilization,
raping the Earth,
lying,
taking more they need,
in all the forms of the greed.
We ask them, "Why?"
They say, "It's God's will".

Damn, God.
They make it so hard.
Remember Jesus?
Would you send him back to them.
Tell them not to k** him.
Rather, they should listen.
Stop abusing His name
and yours.

We do not mean to be disrespectful,
but you know how it is.
Our people have their own ways.
We never even heard of you until not long ago.
Your representatives spoke magnificent things of you.
which we were willing to believe.
But from the way they acted,
we know you and we,
were being deceived.

We do not mean you or your Christian children any bad.
But you all came to take all we had.
We have not seen you.
But we have heard so much.
It is time for you to decide what life is worth.
We already remember,
but maybe you forgot.

Look at us.
Look at us, we are of earth and water.
Look at them,it is the same.

Look at us, we are suffering all these years.
Look at them, they are connected.

Look at us we, are in pain.
Look at them, surprised at our anger.

Look at us we, are struggling to survive.
Look at them, expecting sorrow be benign.

Look at us, we are the ones called pagan.
Look at them, on their arrival.

Look at us, we are called subversive.
Look at them, descending from name-callers.

Look at us, we wept sadly in the long dark.
Look at them, hiding in techno-logic light.

Look at us, we bury the generations.
Look at them, inventing the body count.

Look at us, we are older than America.
Look at them, chasing a fountain of youth.

Look at us, we are embracing Earth.
Look at them, clutching to day.

Look at us, we are living in the generations.
Look at them, existing in jobs and debt.

Look at us, we have escaped many times.
Look at them, they cannot remember.

Look at us we, are healing.
Look at them, their medicine is patented.

Look at us, we are trying.
Look at them, what are they doing?

Look at us, we are Children of Earth.
Look at them, WHO ARE THEY!?

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
51. Great poem
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 09:40 PM
Dec 2020

Truth is we are locked on a planet with serial killers,destroyers control freaks,rapists sociopaths, narcissists and authoritarians perpetuating abuse and destroying that which they cannot have.

Yeah what are we going to do about dark triad personalities and thier evil ego driven god?

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
52. Wish I knew.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:19 PM
Dec 2020

John Trudell had a way of pointing out the obvious that most refuse to look at.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
55. The saddest part of all
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:32 PM
Dec 2020

Is there is no cure to make them have empathy. Or force them to have empathy.

Nothing we can dump in the water supply,no shot or medication that can create empathy where there is none.

I think killing them or lobotomy or anything else that keeps them unable to abuse might be the only way to restore balance to the world.

It's awful but this issue is the most dangerous situation we have to deal with as a world we must find a way to fix it,heal it ,destroy it Or somehow render it powerless. These sociopaths are killing everything and killing our planet and they don't,won't,or can't care enough to stop.

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
31. Thanks. I'll attribute it to Bara Dada from now on.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020
A similar quote appears to be from an Indian philosopher named Bara Dada, brother of Rabindranath Tagore. The full quote from Dada appears to be from the mid-1920s: “Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians, you are not like him.”

reACTIONary

(7,162 posts)
48. Number 7 is pretty funny....
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 08:05 PM
Dec 2020

... “A customer is the most important visitor on our premises.”

Huh? What? Gandhi? I think not.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
23. Evangelicals are shameless about it too.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:30 PM
Dec 2020

They don't care as long as it brings on the end times. Seriously, they're a damned cult and really think this way. I know, I grew up in it.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
25. I really hope there is a hell....
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:05 PM
Dec 2020

.... for their sake. the Hypocrites belong there for eternity

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
28. I still believe the whole end times schtick is just another part of the scam.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:26 PM
Dec 2020

It’s an excuse to not be careful in our stewardship of the planet because “Jesus is returning and we will be going to heaven.” It’s a threat “Do as we say or Christ will come and disembowel you with all the other followers of Evil J. Transylvania*.” It reassures the “faithful” that people who disagree with their sideshow barker of choice will get theirs.

Like so much else in GOP land it is a massive projection. It’s coming because we want to bring it about, regardless of Christ’s involvement.




*Thank you Charlie Pierce.

GemState

(48 posts)
30. I saw this on a bumper sticker
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

a few years ago. I loved it but was never able to find one like it.

 

geralmar

(2,138 posts)
33. Thought that was...
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:44 PM
Dec 2020

Ronald
6

Wilson
6

Reagan
6

When I pointed that out at a church meeting the air got distinctly frosty and I left the church soon after.

handmade34

(24,017 posts)
34. but... that is the point
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 05:00 PM
Dec 2020

to usher in the anti-Christ to bring about the end times and the return of Christ... some, for years, have been encouraging war and chaos and anti-Christ specifically to being about end times!!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
40. Exactly.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 06:10 PM
Dec 2020

Evangelicals desperately WANT to see the AntiChrist in the flesh. Because it will show them that the Second Coming is soon approaching. They get to have their sacrament and eat it too. Its easy to have all the bases covered when you can lean on fantasy as well.

-  If Trump is just Trump, he's a King Cyrus. He is a flawed vessel sent by God to do His will. No matter how many times he scoffs at God, and lies, and cheats, he doesn't realize that he's being used by God despite his character and actions.

- And if he turns out to actually be the Anti-Christ.....GREAT!!! It means the sooner the day they all float up in the sky and get their solid gold mansions.

handmade34

(24,017 posts)
41. "They...have their sacrament and eat it too"
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 06:25 PM
Dec 2020


I seem to think you have to have grown up with a fanatical Christian mother to get it... of course they voted for him, no brainer

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
36. It is ironic indeed....
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 05:37 PM
Dec 2020

They simply don't see the obvious and it would be funny if were not so destructive.

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
42. The Antichrist is supposed to fool the whole world into worshiping him.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 06:26 PM
Dec 2020

Trump can't even fool the majority of American voters.

Response to DownriverDem (Reply #45)

ogsball

(356 posts)
50. The Great Deceiver
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 08:21 PM
Dec 2020

They've said that Anti-Christ was going to be the great deceiver and would claim to be a person of great faith. It sort of makes sense that just like in the Bible the ones deceived would be those "religious folks."

American Christianity has a lot to answer for considering their actions over the last 200 or so years.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
53. Not to sound like I'm defending Trump, but there is no "anti-christ".
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:22 PM
Dec 2020

Just another fictional character created to control people.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
54. That's because evangelicals don't worship Jesus.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:31 PM
Dec 2020

They worship the Old Testament god, and that god is a raging, bloviating, egomaniacal jackass. If you actually read the 10 Commandments, they're very Trumpian.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
57. I like it. I'm not sure how old it is, but I like it anyway.
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:50 PM
Dec 2020

And, as usual, the people who most desperately need the perspective will never see it.

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