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Lunabell

(6,105 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:43 PM Dec 2020

How Long Have You Hated Trump?

I have hated, despised and abhored this monster since the 80's when he was elevated to national status. I hated his smug, smarmy, silver spoon in his mouth, white privileged face as soon as a saw it. I recognized evil. I was right.

Anybody have the same visceral reaction to him back in the old days when he was allegedly a Democrat?

On edit: God, he makes me want to puke!!

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How Long Have You Hated Trump? (Original Post) Lunabell Dec 2020 OP
Since around 2006 or so Turin_C3PO Dec 2020 #1
15 years trueblue2007 Dec 2020 #82
I only became conscious of him in the early 90s Orrex Dec 2020 #2
I worked in NYC in the late 70s, early 80's.... AZ8theist Dec 2020 #97
Yet the Netflix documentary showed so many regular people Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #109
"Old" money in NYC knew he was an asshole. AZ8theist Dec 2020 #110
Since the 80s, when he would enlist small business labor and not pay, forcing many bankrupt. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #126
Yes, the same reaction Green Line Dec 2020 #3
I didn't hate him back then, I dismissed pnwest Dec 2020 #4
When he started the Birther shit. Before that, I just thought he was a Raven Dec 2020 #5
I was the same. The birtherism lies. Otherwise I jus thought him a trust fund clown n/t Greybnk48 Dec 2020 #22
I don't recall paying much attention to him at all essme Dec 2020 #90
Same here. My loathing started with the Birther trash. Paladin Dec 2020 #112
I knew his show the Apprentice was entirely fake and worthless FakeNoose Dec 2020 #6
From the moment I became aware of him. Must have been late '80's. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2020 #7
same here bdtrppr6 Dec 2020 #16
Same here. smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #38
Since the 1970s, when I lived in Manhattan. Thrown in our face endlessly by media there. His BamaRefugee Dec 2020 #8
Wall Street Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #65
My old mechanic friend from Brooklyn summed it up very well back in 2015. "There's some asshole like dameatball Dec 2020 #113
I merely dismissed him as a charlatan until early 2017 when he made my mom cry. Mike 03 Dec 2020 #9
It's scary that a charlatan and joke can become POTUS LeftInTX Dec 2020 #19
It's horrifying. Back then I didn't understand, but my learning curve has Mike 03 Dec 2020 #20
Yes, they were. LeftInTX Dec 2020 #99
P.S. This was the "doomed and incredibly tasteless real estate project" Mike 03 Dec 2020 #33
I knew he would be a dangerous figure when he started the birther movement dalton99a Dec 2020 #10
I never liked him. LeftInTX Dec 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #56
I became somewhat aware of him years ago, when the whole Marla Maples affair The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #12
New Yorkers have hated him forever. marybourg Dec 2020 #13
Since he dumped Ivana for Marla in a very public way. milestogo Dec 2020 #14
The winter of 1980 Runningdawg Dec 2020 #15
My wife and I watched "When They See Us" yesterday True Dough Dec 2020 #17
A visceral reaction since the 80s or perhaps earlier. flor-de-jasmim Dec 2020 #18
Since the birther atuff. Before then i watched his tv show Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #21
As long as I can remember....he bankrupted several of my friends Dads who worked on Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #23
Always thought Lokee11 Dec 2020 #24
I have never hated him. KentuckyWoman Dec 2020 #25
I share what you feel. safeinOhio Dec 2020 #59
Since somewhere in the 70's The Figment Dec 2020 #26
Since he got the nomination in 2016. I never thought about him before that. Nt raccoon Dec 2020 #27
Since the nineties, when he was just a celebrity putz. marble falls Dec 2020 #28
I don't hate him or loathe him. I pity him. I think pity is far worse than hate from 42bambi Dec 2020 #29
I have never liked this idiot Gothmog Dec 2020 #30
As a native New Yorker, I was regularly exposed to every bullshit thing he did or said and... TreasonousBastard Dec 2020 #31
Since the 80's. When Trump Tower was built my girlfriend and I decided it was the fierywoman Dec 2020 #32
Since the first time I ever laid eyes on him. MuseRider Dec 2020 #34
Since he was on the Apprentice? Initech Dec 2020 #35
I can't remember which came first. AirmensMom Dec 2020 #36
I don't hate the man Chainfire Dec 2020 #37
Since I read this quote in 1992: catbyte Dec 2020 #39
Yep. He flaunted Mistress Marla publicly. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2020 #117
I try hard not to let hatred in my heart mahina Dec 2020 #40
so, there's a golf course in Palos Verdes. barbtries Dec 2020 #41
2016. johnp3907 Dec 2020 #42
He wormed his way into my consciousness probably in 1987. LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #43
I honestly can't remember yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #44
I have disliked him since at least 1987 when he bragged about making "millions"..... George II Dec 2020 #45
Oh yes he did do that, I'd completely forgotten FakeNoose Dec 2020 #120
I was working in the Bank of New York's data center on Broad Street at the time.... George II Dec 2020 #122
early monkeyman1 Dec 2020 #46
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Dec 2020 #92
Yep - friend worked as a concierge at a Trump casino in Atlantic City. Both he and Ivana PaulRevere08 Dec 2020 #47
Since he Screwed Merv Griffin Soxfan58 Dec 2020 #48
I don't hate anyone. I'm not going to let others control my emotions. Kaleva Dec 2020 #49
Since the mid-eighties, when he accumulated Mar-a-lago. dchill Dec 2020 #50
If you guys ever read "Spy" Magazine... WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2020 #51
I miss SPY, too. Gawd, the memories! DinahMoeHum Dec 2020 #84
Growing up in south SW Connecticut, we were aware of Totally Tunsie Dec 2020 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Dec 2020 #53
Actually enjoyed The Apprentice... neurochaos Dec 2020 #54
From the first time I heard him speak. Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #55
My mother in law went to Blue_playwright Dec 2020 #57
Since 2016 sarge43 Dec 2020 #58
I don't hate him but I do hate what he's done. He'lll be gone soon. Now it's time to think of what CTyankee Dec 2020 #60
Can't remember exactly since it's been such a long time. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2020 #61
Since the 80s. I remember Leona Helmsley ... bsiebs Dec 2020 #62
I first heard about him in the 80s wnylib Dec 2020 #63
I can't say I hated him back in the 80's I just Bev54 Dec 2020 #64
Ever since his Studio 54 days davekriss Dec 2020 #66
I basically paid almost no attention to him before the Obama/Kenya lie. Before then, to me... NNadir Dec 2020 #67
That'd Be Me....disdained him since that time and also...... zed nada Dec 2020 #68
Yes, I despised him in the '80s when I favored Republicans. BMW2020RT Dec 2020 #69
From the earliest days homegirl Dec 2020 #70
Probably since he started the birther bullshit. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #71
I only paid passing attention until the birtherism crap started ... jimlup Dec 2020 #72
Same. Ever since tabloids of the 1980's. roamer65 Dec 2020 #73
Since I bumped into him in the 1990's cursing out his entourage JCMach1 Dec 2020 #74
For me, revulsion and not hatred. Mister Ed Dec 2020 #75
I lived in NYC off and on in the late 80s and early 90s Withywindle Dec 2020 #76
Vera Coking handmade34 Dec 2020 #77
Ever since I first heard about him VA_Jill Dec 2020 #78
In 1989 - Central Park 5 alphafemale Dec 2020 #79
We planted a maple tree 30+ years ago yonder Dec 2020 #80
Birtherism, because I've dealt with that nonsense my whole life and still do IronLionZion Dec 2020 #81
Since his TV show. Music Man Dec 2020 #83
Same as you shanti Dec 2020 #85
The Apprentice Desert_Leslie Dec 2020 #86
Never hated Trump, even to this very richdj25 Dec 2020 #87
Central Park 5, ripping off contractors who did work for him, sexual deviant, birtherism, bullying judesedit Dec 2020 #88
Since the birther thing in 2011-2012. I was a fan Rice4VP Dec 2020 #89
Longer than most, after being cheated after a stay at Trump hotel in Vegas, gift from our daughter. Liberty Belle Dec 2020 #91
The underground comics artist R.Crumb felt trump was worthy of satire in 1989 in a.... EarnestPutz Dec 2020 #93
From the day he destroyed the Art Deco friezes at the Bonwit Teller building... SeattleVet Dec 2020 #94
Oh! I forgot about that. I'll bet that... electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #134
1980's housecat Dec 2020 #95
Since the 1980's working in Atlantic City. GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #96
I try not to hate anyone but "True peace is not merely the absence of tension: BrightKnight Dec 2020 #98
He's not worth the effort it takes to hate someone. GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #100
You're cutting him too much slack. Paladin Dec 2020 #115
Not long enough MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #101
About 150 years Silent3 Dec 2020 #102
I ignored him until the birther conspiracy Dukkha Dec 2020 #103
Me too. RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #123
In 2015, the moment he said that Mexicans were drug dealers, criminals and rapists. IrishEyes Dec 2020 #104
Since he started running for President treestar Dec 2020 #105
Since the 80s. SergeStorms Dec 2020 #106
When he destroyed the The United States Football League. Doc_Technical Dec 2020 #107
I started hating this asshole in the '80's Cozmo Dec 2020 #108
Same here. I saw him on some talk shows, decades ago. Couldn't stand that smug, bragging twit. dameatball Dec 2020 #111
I have generally disliked him since the 80's. ananda Dec 2020 #114
Early on, I really didn't care... paleotn Dec 2020 #116
As an NYC'r dislike, some disgust started in... electric_blue68 Dec 2020 #118
As far back as I can remember seeing him, back in the late 80s I guess. He has the look of the guy doc03 Dec 2020 #119
2-3 decades give or take robbedvoter Dec 2020 #121
since the first time I heard him speak Skittles Dec 2020 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Dec 2020 #125
Since the birther stuff budkin Dec 2020 #127
I honestly never thought about him until 2016 marmar Dec 2020 #128
Since the 2016 primaries. I really didn't pay much attention to him prior Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #129
I only considered him as Mossfern Dec 2020 #130
I never have and I'm not going to ... Raine Dec 2020 #131
I live on the opposite side of the country from NYC & won't watch "reality" tv, so all I knew ... Hekate Dec 2020 #132
Its hard to hate someone you've never loved. msfiddlestix Dec 2020 #133
Since 1983 tenderfoot Dec 2020 #135
I thought he was disgusting marlakay Dec 2020 #136
Since 2009 Jamaal510 Dec 2020 #137
Since 1979 coeur_de_lion Dec 2020 #138

Turin_C3PO

(14,047 posts)
1. Since around 2006 or so
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:46 PM
Dec 2020

when he started feuding with Rosie O‘Donnell. My hate increased exponentially when he asserted that Obama’s birth certificate was fake.

Orrex

(63,223 posts)
2. I only became conscious of him in the early 90s
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:47 PM
Dec 2020

So I'd say that I've hated him since the early 90s.

AZ8theist

(5,492 posts)
97. I worked in NYC in the late 70s, early 80's....
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:13 PM
Dec 2020

He was a scumbag back then, and a scumbag now. Been a scumbag his entire life.

But at least back then he didn't COMMIT TREASON.

It wasn't until the 90's that the fucking Russians BOUGHT his sorry fat ass..

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
109. Yet the Netflix documentary showed so many regular people
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:38 PM
Dec 2020

and wealthy people and celebrities and media fawning over him like he was a king. Said he was the greatest self promoter of all time.

Such a disconnect between you who knew the real trump along with so many he bilked. Did those who knew not have any voice? Maybe it was just because people weren't as informed without internet.

AZ8theist

(5,492 posts)
110. "Old" money in NYC knew he was an asshole.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
Dec 2020

Low intelligence, unsophisticated, 2 bit con man. He was never accepted in to high society. Only humored.

If he didn't rip off $400M from his family in his fathers will, he'd be selling shitty condos from a street corner in Queens right now.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
4. I didn't hate him back then, I dismissed
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

him as an unserious, bragadocious buffoon who I instinctively did not trust. But he didn’t affect my life so he was easy to ignore. I began to actively hate him with the birtherism bullshit.

Raven

(13,899 posts)
5. When he started the Birther shit. Before that, I just thought he was a
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

a pucker-lipped dandy rich boy of no consequence. Shows you how wrong I was!

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
22. I was the same. The birtherism lies. Otherwise I jus thought him a trust fund clown n/t
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:05 PM
Dec 2020

Otherwise I jus thought him a trust fund clown, pissing away daddy's money.

essme

(1,207 posts)
90. I don't recall paying much attention to him at all
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:01 PM
Dec 2020

during the 80's and 90's. I THINK I went in the Trump Casino in Atlantic City the one time I was there- but, I am not really a gambler, so I can't say for sure if that was the one I visited.

I vaguely recall seeing his pictures in People magazine- you know, him and Ivana at Studio 54 or some other place where stars hung out. Being from NC, those photos might as well have been taken on Mars.

I would have to say it was his silly assed birther shit that put him on my radar. I kept wondering what in the fuck he was even talking about.

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
112. Same here. My loathing started with the Birther trash.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:44 PM
Dec 2020

My loathing of him has only grown, day by day. He has shattered whatever fables I bought into, about this being a decent and intelligent country. If circumstances permitted, I'd leave and live out my final days in a better place.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
6. I knew his show the Apprentice was entirely fake and worthless
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:51 PM
Dec 2020

... but it wasn't until 2015 that I learned what a complete asshole Chump was. Tony Schwartz the author of "The Art of the Deal" really opened my eyes. Tony finally spoke out about Chump after his NDA expired. Since then we've seen daily and hourly exhibitions of Chump's assholery, and it has been the main topic of conversation on DU.


50 Shades Of Blue

(10,043 posts)
7. From the moment I became aware of him. Must have been late '80's.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:52 PM
Dec 2020

He was still married to Ivana for the next several years after that. They were both like members of an alien species to me. Just vile, utterly materialistic, soulless creeps.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. Same here.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:47 PM
Dec 2020

I found him vile, vulgar and disgusting the moment I became aware of his worthless existence.

BamaRefugee

(3,487 posts)
8. Since the 1970s, when I lived in Manhattan. Thrown in our face endlessly by media there. His
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:52 PM
Dec 2020

assholery, even then, raged like a bonfire.
Second only to Nixon in my hatred. Then.
Now, he's NUMBER 1 on my list.

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
65. Wall Street
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:22 PM
Dec 2020

As a yute, I had to travel to NYC on financial market business. 40 years ago he gave people the creeps, and everyone had seen assholes like him dodge the draft a decade earlier.

Anyone who could read an income statement and balance sheet knew the numbers didn’t add up. Which was his business plan—exploit those who can’t understand a financial statement.

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
113. My old mechanic friend from Brooklyn summed it up very well back in 2015. "There's some asshole like
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:48 PM
Dec 2020

him on every block." (referring to NYC).

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. I merely dismissed him as a charlatan until early 2017 when he made my mom cry.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:53 PM
Dec 2020

She called me in tears the morning that the indigenous people at Standing Rock were setting their teepees on fire, and that is when I began to realize he wasn't just going to be an incompetent person who accomplished nothing, but that he might be seriously dangerous. My mother doesn't overreact to things, or cry a lot. She said that was a harbinger of things to come.

Prior to that, I worked as an assistant to an older, wiser person who had met with Trump about a loan he wanted for a doomed and incredibly tasteless "real estate" project in Los Angeles, and to that person, Trump was nothing more than a joke, so I took my cues from him initially.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
20. It's horrifying. Back then I didn't understand, but my learning curve has
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:04 PM
Dec 2020

been exceptionally steep. I just began studying tyrants, dictators and authoritarians; nearly all of them were charlatans before they were dictators.

LeftInTX

(25,545 posts)
99. Yes, they were.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:14 PM
Dec 2020

Hitler and Mussolini: Both were pariah's and cast offs from a government that they were trying to make inroads with...

I should read up more on some other dictators such as Amin and some from the Americas, but don't have time.

The one thing that prevented Trump from total control was our fairly stable govt, as compared to Italy and Germany post WWI. Other modern dictators have gained power in governments that have fairly longstanding unstable governments.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
33. P.S. This was the "doomed and incredibly tasteless real estate project"
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020
Decline and closure

The death of Robert F. Kennedy marked the demise of the hotel coinciding with the decline of the surrounding neighborhood during the late 1960s and 1970s. The area also saw a surge of illegal drugs, poverty, and gang activity infiltrating the Wilshire corridor. Under the direction of Sammy Davis, Jr., the “Now Grove” replaced the classic Cocoanut Grove in 1970 in order to appeal to a modern nightclub crowd.[6] However, patrons lost interest in both the hotel and the neighborhood surrounding it, which caused the Ambassador Hotel to fall into disrepair throughout the years. Because of this the Ambassador Hotel closed to guests in 1989, but it remained opened for filming and hosting private events. In 1991, Donald Trump, who had bought the hotel in hopes of tearing it down to build a 125-story building, sold off silver serving platters with the hotel's eagle-topped crest, tiki-style soup bowls from the famed Cocoanut Grove nightclub, and beds and nightstands from the rooms.[13]


No, Trump didn't get the loan from the man I worked for; he kicked Trump out of his office and told him not to come back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Hotel_(Los_Angeles)#Decline_and_closure

LeftInTX

(25,545 posts)
11. I never liked him.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:55 PM
Dec 2020

He was tabloid fodder in the 80s along with all sorts of "rich and famous" people...I hated the 80's and Trump was part of it...

Didn't pay too much attention to him...all I knew is that he got lots of attention for being rich...Never would have thought he would run for president and freak'n win. Didn't know much about his personality and I really didn't care. I knew he had trouble staying in relationships as many privileged celebrities do. That is really all I noticed about him. I didn't live in NY. Didn't watch the Apprentice.

This is what happens when you give someone like him too much power.



His ascendancy into politics just kinda creeped up on everyone. He started the birther thing, but I dismissed it as attention getting by a celebrity..
He was always spouting his mouth...Apparently, he was on Larry King and told Larry that he was bad breath over and over...but it was a joke. Always looking for attention. The birther thing and even his segment on Larry King were all power plays....

Response to LeftInTX (Reply #11)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
12. I became somewhat aware of him years ago, when the whole Marla Maples affair
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Dec 2020

blew up. I didn't pay much attention to him; he was just an obnoxious rich playboy asshole, one of those useless people who was famous for being famous, and before the late '80s he was probably well-known only to people in NYC. I didn't really notice how much of an asshole he was until he went after the Central Park Five, demanding the death penalty. Never watched The Apprentice, which sounded like a really stupid show.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
14. Since he dumped Ivana for Marla in a very public way.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Dec 2020

I despise men who have trophy wives. I despise attention whores. There are many other reasons to despise Trump, but I started despising him around 30 years ago.

Runningdawg

(4,522 posts)
15. The winter of 1980
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Dec 2020

When he sealed up the building a few doors down from me in NYC. No heat, no water, no electricity. Just 43 occupants left, all over the age of 70, most with no family left either, with no where to go but to their death in a state run nursing home or on the street.
A group I was involved with took care of them the best we could. We were able to find places for some of them to live, we helped a few find distant relatives and in one case an old guy became roommates with a guy who fought with him in WWII.
FUCK DJT

True Dough

(17,319 posts)
17. My wife and I watched "When They See Us" yesterday
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:01 PM
Dec 2020

It's a mini series about the Central Park Five (or, as they rightfully prefer to be called, "the Exonerated Five." Trump makes appearances in the show via actual TV news clips from the time of the incident and he was calling for the death penalty against these five young men who were framed by the "justice" system despite a lack of evidence. Trump spent $85,000 on a full-page ad in the NY Times as well.

I was too young at the time of that particular Central Park sexual assault and beating to have an interest in current affairs, but watching that mini series infuriated me in a number of ways, stinking Trump prime among them.

Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
21. Since the birther atuff. Before then i watched his tv show
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:05 PM
Dec 2020

He behaved like an ass but i thought he truly was a self made billionaire..knew nothing about his father

Demsrule86

(68,667 posts)
23. As long as I can remember....he bankrupted several of my friends Dads who worked on
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:05 PM
Dec 2020

his buildings...I lived in Connecticut at the time...and a number of my Dad's friends...both my Dad and my older brothers and sister despised Trump.

Lokee11

(235 posts)
24. Always thought
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:06 PM
Dec 2020

Always thought he was an Orange pile of 💩 since as far back as I can remember -

Admittedly did not realize how big a pile initially.

FDT!

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
25. I have never hated him.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:06 PM
Dec 2020

I don't respect him enough to hate him. He didn't used to be worth even 1 moment's space in my life. In 2007 or 2008 when someone I love spewed words that "Obama is not even a citizen", it was annoying as hell having to give Trump any attention whatsoever.

I'd be thrilled if the damn nuisance croaks, but I'll be happy enough if he just goes the hell away. Maybe he'll exile to Russia and annoy them for awhile.

safeinOhio

(32,715 posts)
59. I share what you feel.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:18 PM
Dec 2020

He loves attention and hate works fine for him, he loves it. Don't give him that hate, just try to ignore and pity him, that's what he hates.

The Figment

(494 posts)
26. Since somewhere in the 70's
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:11 PM
Dec 2020

He was a dick then and he's a dick now, he's doing all this shit as "payback" for losing the election, "If I can't have it then I'll just fuck everything up so y'all be too busy cleaning up the mess to get anything done"

Little kid having a tantrum....frickin asshole

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
29. I don't hate him or loathe him. I pity him. I think pity is far worse than hate from
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:16 PM
Dec 2020

Trumps point of view.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
31. As a native New Yorker, I was regularly exposed to every bullshit thing he did or said and...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:17 PM
Dec 2020

just wrote him off as another rich asshole spending his father's money. Spending it badly, btw.

Hate began with the the Central Park Five and him taking out full page ads for their execution. Hatred fully ensued when they were proven innocent and his attitude was "Central Park who?"

fierywoman

(7,693 posts)
32. Since the 80's. When Trump Tower was built my girlfriend and I decided it was the
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:18 PM
Dec 2020

perfect place to pee when we were window shopping on Fifth Avenue.

Since I was raised on Long Island, I'm used to NY accents, which are mostly very dear to me -- but his accent I've always hated.

MuseRider

(34,119 posts)
34. Since the first time I ever laid eyes on him.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:19 PM
Dec 2020

Now, I cannot remember that specifically but I know exactly what I would have thought about him. He just looks like every privileged predator I have ever seen. He stinks of it.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
35. Since he was on the Apprentice?
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:21 PM
Dec 2020

I remember seeing the ads for that show and was wondering why people would want to watch a show about someone getting fired?

AirmensMom

(14,648 posts)
36. I can't remember which came first.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:29 PM
Dec 2020

I saw him on a talk show sometime in the 80s, maybe even early 80s and thought he was outrageously conceited and lacking a moral compass. I saw him tear up Atlantic City, which is near where we stayed when my dad was in Vietnam. Can't remember the year of that either, but I'm guessing it was in the 80s. I heard Oprah call him "The Donald" on her show and just about puked. She was part of the problem.

I could never see the appeal of his Apprentice show. Watched it once out of curiosity and figured out pretty fast that whether or not a person got hired was quite similar to why people got voted off the island in Survivor. In neither case did the most deserving/capable person stay. If I wanted office politics, I just had to go to work.

Chainfire

(17,636 posts)
37. I don't hate the man
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:35 PM
Dec 2020

I hate what he has done to my country. Trump deserves justice, in fact, we should insist upon it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,143 posts)
117. Yep. He flaunted Mistress Marla publicly.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:01 PM
Dec 2020

And so odd since he gave cause to lose more in divorce from Ivana.

I also recall his conniving behavior when he rebuilt Wollman Rink in Central Park in the mid-eighties.

By the time he flaunted Maples in Marble Collegiate Church @ 1990 he was clearly reckless and abusive. And so was Miss Maples. But Ivana was just a 70's version of Melania, so his misogyny was a draw with their conniving.

mahina

(17,696 posts)
40. I try hard not to let hatred in my heart
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

He’s made that difficult for me since he started the birth certificate insult show.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
41. so, there's a golf course in Palos Verdes.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

i've more or less hated him since then but it was a distant bell. more like contempt. i have to admit i cannot, without googling, say what he did at the time to earn this contempt, but i know it was there.

never watched a single episode of the apprentice.

never appreciated that his birther bullshit was being swallowed whole by millions of people (it was so absurd).

so, 2015. it was probably 2015 before he even touched my radar enough to excite hate.

can't wait until he fades away from my consciousness. like nixon or reagan. i'll hate him but it won't eat at me.

LudwigPastorius

(9,167 posts)
43. He wormed his way into my consciousness probably in 1987.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:56 PM
Dec 2020

That's the first time I remember reading about him. I was working in a bookstore and would read Spy magazine on breaks.

Any, and all, mentions of him were about what a self-aggrandizing shitheel he was. I had to agree.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
44. I honestly can't remember
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:02 PM
Dec 2020

I know it at least goes back to The Apprentice

He was gross then and nothing has changed

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. I have disliked him since at least 1987 when he bragged about making "millions".....
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:04 PM
Dec 2020

....after the market crash on October 19, 1987.

People were losing their life savings and he was gloating over profiting from the crash.

Of course it was a lie anyway, he was never a big investor in the stock market.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
120. Oh yes he did do that, I'd completely forgotten
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:03 PM
Dec 2020

Right after the crash he went on the radio, or maybe it was TV, and bragged that he was so smart that he sold all his stocks just a couple days before the crash. In light of all that's happened since, I doubt if that was true, but he's still a putz for even saying it. So many people were harmed by that crash, especially the Wall Streeters.

I was living in northern Jersey and working in Manhattan when all that went down.


George II

(67,782 posts)
122. I was working in the Bank of New York's data center on Broad Street at the time....
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:20 PM
Dec 2020

....(fill in between my real jobs)

Back then roughly 40% of all transactions went through that office. It was a creepy day - by 10 AM people knew something was going on. A couple of hours later an eerie pall fell on the room. We had windows that opened, we did and looked out - Wall Street was deserted in the middle of the afternoon. Then going home on the subway it was dead silent. People looked like zombies.

We knew it was bad, but not how bad until we got home.

I'll never forget that day.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
46. early
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:06 PM
Dec 2020

i've known about the whole poe family since early 60's. all are worthless ! from great grand father to now ! trump trib need to run out of this country period

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
47. Yep - friend worked as a concierge at a Trump casino in Atlantic City. Both he and Ivana
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:09 PM
Dec 2020

treated the employees terribly and the stories were enough to convince me he was just an a-hole blowhard.

Kaleva

(36,340 posts)
49. I don't hate anyone. I'm not going to let others control my emotions.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:09 PM
Dec 2020

For the good of the nation and the world, I'll be glad when he's out of office.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
51. If you guys ever read "Spy" Magazine...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Dec 2020

They referred to him as the "Short fingered vulgarian" for as long as I can remember...at least back to the 80's. And then there was this. I miss Spy.

https://splinternews.com/lets-remember-the-time-donald-trump-cashed-a-13-check-1793849388

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
52. Growing up in south SW Connecticut, we were aware of
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:14 PM
Dec 2020

this menace early on...probably mid-70s. His cruelty, nastiness, privilege, narcissism, dishonesty, etc. were evident back then as his business dealings became public fodder. Stories of his evictions were legend.

When he rode down that golden escalator in 2015, there was no way, IMO, he would ever make it to pResident. Over and over I predicted he wouldn't get through the primaries. How could this jackass who had tormented NYC for years become a nominee for pResident? Surely the rest of the US would see this guy for the belligerent phony he was. Uh...NOPE. It was becoming evident that too many were buying his "successful businessman" persona from The Apprentice. I still blame Mark Burnett for bringing this idiot to the fore.

January 20 can't get here fast enough. 24 days - tick tock.

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neurochaos

(72 posts)
54. Actually enjoyed The Apprentice...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:15 PM
Dec 2020

… had bought in on the image they was selling of Trump as being a smart business man. The first inkling of me noticing racial bias from Trump was the season of Randal Pinkett (a black man). It was obvious that Randall was hands down the one who should win but Trump was looking for any reason not to name him sole winner, even asking if he would share the title with another contestant (a white woman). But when Trump started pushing the racist birther lie about President Obama, I WAS DONE with his show… I actually hated him like poison from that point forward.

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
55. From the first time I heard him speak.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:16 PM
Dec 2020

Probably on some talk show in the 70s. I could tell immediately he was a pile of bullshit. I didn't realize his level of cruelty and evil until decades later, though.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
57. My mother in law went to
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:17 PM
Dec 2020

The same elementary school I believe. She was a year or two ahead of him and said he was an arrogant ass even as a little kid.

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
58. Since 2016
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:17 PM
Dec 2020

The debate with Clinton when he went feral toward her. Knew then he was a bully, a coward and a sadist. Nothing he's done since changed my opinion.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
60. I don't hate him but I do hate what he's done. He'lll be gone soon. Now it's time to think of what
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:18 PM
Dec 2020

we will have once Biden is in office. Think of it!

*Good, capable, good hearted Dems in positions to make us stronger

*Decency

*Compassion for others less fortunate

*The beauty of the arts will be back in the White House for perfomances!

*A happier, healthier population

*Respect from other countries

*leadership in hard times

greatauntoftriplets

(175,749 posts)
61. Can't remember exactly since it's been such a long time.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020

Pretty much since I first saw a photo of him and I wanted to throw up.

bsiebs

(688 posts)
62. Since the 80s. I remember Leona Helmsley ...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020

She was always running ads for her hotels.. she and trump were not friends.. she eventually went to jail for some kind of fraud.. but god trump was miserable back then too...

wnylib

(21,603 posts)
63. I first heard about him in the 80s
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020

with his marital scandal, but paid little attention to it.

Became really aware of him with the Apprentice. Watched 2 or 3 episodes and quickly disliked his arrogance. Came across to me as a puffed up con artist. I could not comprehend the eagerness of contestants to work for such a BS buffoon.

I began to really snicker at him when Obama roasted him at the press corps dinner.

The contempt came during the 2016 campaign. The loathing began in his first month in office with the deliberately cruel and sudden immigration ban that left thousands stranded after selling all they had to buy tickets to the US when they were vetted.

It grew exponentionally since then.

I recognized his fascist tendencies in 2016. Tried not to fall into deep hatred for my sake, not his, but failed. I loathe him, but refuse to get bogged down in it. Best remedy for me is to focus on what we will do without him.

So my loathing of him was a process that grew the more I knew about him. Zero redeeming qualities.

Bev54

(10,071 posts)
64. I can't say I hated him back in the 80's I just
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:20 PM
Dec 2020

thought of him as an irrelevant boor who made me gag. Luckily I only saw him a couple of times on TV and would just turn the channel. I really started to hate him during his Obama birth certificate scandal and could not understand why anyone with a brain would follow such an obvious imbecile.

NNadir

(33,542 posts)
67. I basically paid almost no attention to him before the Obama/Kenya lie. Before then, to me...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:24 PM
Dec 2020

...he was just another jerk on a reality show in which I had no interest.

zed nada

(60 posts)
68. That'd Be Me....disdained him since that time and also......
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:29 PM
Dec 2020

...the smarmy little Jared and Brett Kavanaugh pasty, pouty little Crispin Glover want-to-be's. Wish I could've gone to school with them just to take away their lunch money. And when he went bankrupt on the casino costing lots of people their jobs and imagined security, he blew it off in interviews like it was no big deal.....

homegirl

(1,433 posts)
70. From the earliest days
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Dec 2020

of his celebrity.

I knew he had imported labor from Eastern Europe to work on one of his buildings, then exported them back to Europe just before ICE was about to strike.

Then he destroyed the Art Deco facade of the Bonwit Teller building, when he should have had it carefully removed and preserved, then donated and installed at his expense in a New York City Museum.

Recently I learned that a family business lost $300K over the years when Donald stiffed contractors the company had sold materials and services to, can't get blood from a stone.

They don't get much lower then Donald!


Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,191 posts)
71. Probably since he started the birther bullshit.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Dec 2020

Prior to that I learned he was not a "successful entrepreneur" back in the 90s when his daddy had to bail his casino out. In casino gambling the rules are in the house's favor. One has to be really incompetent to lose money.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
72. I only paid passing attention until the birtherism crap started ...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Dec 2020

I watched the Apprentece once and was not at all impressed with tRump but didn't actually learn that he was hatable, as opposed to just ignorable, until the birtherism crap.

I'm still a bit shocked that anybody took him seriously. And that's even given the stupidity and gulible wishful thinking that i already knew existed within the REPtilian party.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
74. Since I bumped into him in the 1990's cursing out his entourage
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:32 PM
Dec 2020

In the Houston Airport. He is an embarrassing POS, asshat from the get go...

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
76. I lived in NYC off and on in the late 80s and early 90s
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:34 PM
Dec 2020

So, since then. He was always cartoonishly awful.

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
77. Vera Coking
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:37 PM
Dec 2020

even though it wasn't entirely his doing, his involvement was my first awareness... have known he was a vile person for decades

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
79. In 1989 - Central Park 5
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:38 PM
Dec 2020

The Newspaper ad calling for the Death Penalty.

He was actually calling for a lynching of juveniles.

Rape is not a Capital crime.

Juveniles were not able to receive the death penalty.

New York had not executed anyone in decades.

He was trying to provoke executions.

Jut as he is trying to provoke violence now.

yonder

(9,673 posts)
80. We planted a maple tree 30+ years ago
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:43 PM
Dec 2020

and named it Marla because they were always in the news. The dislike we have for him and everything associated with him is at least that old.

I expect Marla will have to be taken down within 10 years. She's too big and like that family, has taken over. She's plenty shady though.

IronLionZion

(45,526 posts)
81. Birtherism, because I've dealt with that nonsense my whole life and still do
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
Dec 2020

and was disgusted that he would do it to our first non-white president. I didn't know about his political views before that and never watched the apprentice.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
83. Since his TV show.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
Dec 2020

The Onion had a headline around that time: "America Delighted By Rich Ass Who Fires People."

That about said it.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
85. Same as you
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:49 PM
Dec 2020

from the very beginning. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. He has always nauseated me. The idea of watching his show doesn't even register.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
86. The Apprentice
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:52 PM
Dec 2020

I watched a couple episodes of The Apprentice way back when. My reaction was, who the living hell does he think he is? He is nothing but a failed commercial real estate developer who has declared bankruptcy multiple times. WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS?

richdj25

(164 posts)
87. Never hated Trump, even to this very
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:56 PM
Dec 2020

day. Why, cause he's no different than quite a few nut jobs I've come across in my lifetime. Just because he's president doesn't change that point of view. And just an fyi.......from an African American perspective, we've seen this sort of thing play out for many a generation. See Reconstruction, Jim Crow and the like.

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
88. Central Park 5, ripping off contractors who did work for him, sexual deviant, birtherism, bullying
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:57 PM
Dec 2020

He's always given me the creepy crawlies. He's a huge LOSER in everything he gets involved in.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
89. Since the birther thing in 2011-2012. I was a fan
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:57 PM
Dec 2020

of The Apprentice since it started in 2004 but after he went after Obama I was done.

However, growing up in NYC, we all knew that he was a cheater and always going bankrupt

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
91. Longer than most, after being cheated after a stay at Trump hotel in Vegas, gift from our daughter.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:04 PM
Dec 2020

The jets on the spa tub malfunctioned, shot up in the air and flooded the room. I slipped fell, hurt my back and ruined the rest of our vacation.

Other than switching us to another room, the Trump organization did nothing for us. I had never heard of him before then, but did the research and found out what a scumbag he was even then, probably around a decade ago.

The hotel decor was gaudy and tacky in my view, even by Vegas standards.

SeattleVet

(5,479 posts)
94. From the day he destroyed the Art Deco friezes at the Bonwit Teller building...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:06 PM
Dec 2020

to build his tRump Tower Temple of Obscene Opulence.

The Metropolitan Museum of Art was going to remove and conserve them. They needed two weeks to get everything finalized. He didn't want to wait that long before starting the demolition, so he had them jackhammered. (The ornate gates there also turned up missing, and where those went has never been properly explained.)

Then he started appearing in all local NYC media, and got his ugly smug mug splashed all over.

electric_blue68

(14,933 posts)
134. Oh! I forgot about that. I'll bet that...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:16 PM
Dec 2020

upped my disgust for him!..

I was wondering at some point what building was torn down for the TT.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
98. I try not to hate anyone but "True peace is not merely the absence of tension:
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:13 PM
Dec 2020

it is the presence of justice.”
-Martin Luther King Jr.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
100. He's not worth the effort it takes to hate someone.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:17 PM
Dec 2020

Before he ran for President, I just looked at him as another fucking parasite who was cut from the same bolt of cloth as the Kardassians, Paris Hilton, Tomi Lahren, Lori Laughlin's brats, etc. You know...people who became famous for being famous, in spite of not having ever done anything of consequence in their entire useless lives.

That's not to say I don't hold him in the utmost contempt now. But, I have been able to keep myself from crossing the "hate" line by reminding myself that Trump ALWAYS makes things worse for Trump. And, in stealing the Presidency, he just made the biggest mistake of his useless fucking life. I just have enough patience to sit back and wait until we all get to see him suffer the consequences of that theft and his subsequent behavior.

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
115. You're cutting him too much slack.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:52 PM
Dec 2020

Let us know whenever that "suffer the consequences" shit finally gets under way, if ever. We can look around at that point and see what remains of our country.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,633 posts)
101. Not long enough
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:19 PM
Dec 2020

I became aware of him when his affair with Marla became tabloid fodder. I dismissed him as mildly amusing blowhard. I began side eyeing him during his feud with Rosie. I started thinking he was a thin skinned douchebag and tried to ignore him. I didn't really start hating him until the birtherism bullshit. After this I found out about the serial racism, misogynistic attitude, stiffing contractors, and Central Park Five. I really, really hated how he bullied Hillary Clinton.

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
102. About 150 years
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:21 PM
Dec 2020

I was only vaguely aware of Trump until the birtherism crap that came out during his 2012 fizzled presidential run. As disgusting as that was, I still didn't take Trump seriously enough to get too worked up about him, because he just seemed like a side show, a joke.

I certainly didn't pay any attention to The Apprentice, and Trumps' history before that was very fuzzy to me.

The last five years, however, I've packed in a century and a half's worth of hatred for the man.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
103. I ignored him until the birther conspiracy
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:25 PM
Dec 2020

Then he really showed the world how evil & stupidity make a toxic combination. I always knew he was a fraud and con man.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
123. Me too.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:30 PM
Dec 2020

It was the blatant racism of his efforts to discredit Obama that turned my stomach. Prior to that I regarded him as an egotistical douche bag who made a lot of money in NYC real estate and who screwed up royally in Atlantic City. His attack on Obama showed his nasty, foul and racist nature.

His taking credit -- if you remember -- for surfacing Obama’s actual birth certificate (as if that was the reason he pursued his racist vendetta against a man who is more articulate, better educated, more intelligent and witty and physically healthy and athletic than he) signaled to me that was mentally disturbed.

I never watched the Apprentice show but all the while it was on I actually thought it was just cruel side-light to his brilliant endeavors in the business world. Yes, I said “brilliant” which shows how little I knew at the time.

I now despise him as a racist xenophobe, as an authoritarian wannabe, as an inept “leader” who nevertheless has a certain evil genius in his ability to stir up crowds of bottom feeders with a rambling “speech” and get many top feeders to kiss his ring with promises of greater and greater wealth to feed their greed.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
104. In 2015, the moment he said that Mexicans were drug dealers, criminals and rapists.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:26 PM
Dec 2020

I remember hearing his name when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s but I didn't really have an opinion of him. I thought he was just another selfish, rich prick who married a much younger woman. I never watched "The Apprentice" and neither did anyone of my friends or family.

I was working at a newspaper when he announced his campaign. We had several TVs on at work so I watched for a short while. I was laughing about how stupid it was. Then he said that Mexicans were drug dealers, criminals and rapists. I remember saying "this guy is an as****e" and went back to what I was working on my computer.

I figured that he would drop out soon and I wouldn't have to think about him again. Of course, since I worked at a major newspaper, that did not happen.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
106. Since the 80s.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:27 PM
Dec 2020

They'd always interview him on TV as being one of the "new breed" of movers and shakers in NYC. He made me want to vomit then, and he makes we want to projectile vomit now.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
108. I started hating this asshole in the '80's
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:37 PM
Dec 2020

when he started fucking up in Atlantic City with his 3 ill-conceived competing casinos. He is the only person in the world who lost money on a Rolling Stones concert. As usual the Stone's made a lot of money from their business venture with tRump. But he is such an ignorant businessman he lost lots of dough on this because tRump wanted the elan associated with the Stones. He told his people to pay any amount of money, even at a loss. It was a loss, BIGLY. Mick and especially Keith wanted nothing to do with him, they wouldn't even let him come to the concert and he owned the concert venue. Now, how stupid is that????

paleotn

(17,956 posts)
116. Early on, I really didn't care...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:58 PM
Dec 2020

He was a cheap PT Barnum, then a hawker of cheap crap and then some cheap cable TV guy I never wasted my time watching. He didn't really impact me or the vast majority of Americans. Lots of of riff raff like that running around. Then he became a serious contender for president and everything changed. So, since 2016 I've hated him and all of his sycophants with the heat of a thousand suns. There are so many things I'd like done to him and his ilk. None of them pleasant and most would elicit a visit by the Secret Service.

electric_blue68

(14,933 posts)
118. As an NYC'r dislike, some disgust started in...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:01 PM
Dec 2020

the earlier '80's in my late 20s into my later 30s.

I followed my R&R favorites, some actors, some scientists, and occasionally glanced at the over all "rich & famous".I found him boorish.

I didn't follow big real estate in general (though eventually the middle class building we lived in that our landlord ran down in the '60s was named in the Village Voice's '10 worst landlords of the year' several years after we escaped) so I really didn't know about the crap he pulled or follow that much about finance in general - though I did know about (and be disgusted by) Insider Trading. I watched 2 halves of 2 of his Apprentice show.

With the (CP) Exonerated Five -that- raised my alarm bells into close to hatred. I heard about his casinos.

It was the 'birherism' that solidified my hatred for him. That's when I began to also hear more overall about his bad doings.
But "besides" seeing the increasing cruelty, and evilness in each present day, weeks, months of his pResidency - that's when I found out the full extent (as we currently understand) of his past shady to outright cruel actions.

I will be jubilant when he finally loses his presidencial powers!!!!!
Very concerned about his further influence which we'll see how that unfurls.

doc03

(35,364 posts)
119. As far back as I can remember seeing him, back in the late 80s I guess. He has the look of the guy
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 05:03 PM
Dec 2020

they always pick to play the bad guy in movies. My mother passed away at 93 back in 2012 she would say I can't
stand that man every time she saw him. At least she never saw him become president. I would give a $1000 just to
put my fist in his carp like mouth.

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Mossfern

(2,552 posts)
130. I only considered him as
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 07:18 PM
Dec 2020

an asshole in the '80's. I didn't start hating him until 2016 when the asshole had an effect on my life.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
131. I never have and I'm not going to ...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:50 PM
Dec 2020

the last President I truly hated was Raygun and hating him was a big mistake on my part, I made myself miserable for 8yrs. After that I swore I would never waste my time on hating someone who would never know or care how I felt.

Hekate

(90,788 posts)
132. I live on the opposite side of the country from NYC & won't watch "reality" tv, so all I knew ...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:52 PM
Dec 2020

...about DT was what I read in Doonesbury.

Then he went after Obama. Despicable.

Then he went after Hillary — and stalked her around the debate stage. What a pig.


msfiddlestix

(7,285 posts)
133. Its hard to hate someone you've never loved.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:07 PM
Dec 2020

To say I Hate this person would imply that I once loved him.

I have never liked what I saw displayed in the news back in the 80's and 90's. I never watched Apprentice and frankly couldn't understand how any one would. The few clips that would be shown on ads seemed so freaking moronic, how was it possible that our culture could support a tv show like that. And anyone like him.

When he tossed his hat and started campaigning I soon realized (it didn't take long) that this person was seriously mentally ill. I'm not a doctor but it's not required in real life to be able to take a look at any of the scenes from his rallies and KNOW that this guy was a whacked out nut job and dangerous.

Dislike, loath, contempt, revolted yes all that and more. But the term HATE is weird to apply, because it requires one has to have loved that person before it turned to hate.

marlakay

(11,490 posts)
136. I thought he was disgusting
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 12:03 AM
Dec 2020

And stupid but after pussy grabber I can do anything thats when hate started.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
137. Since 2009
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 12:48 AM
Dec 2020

when I really found out more about him personally. Before Obama's presidency, I saw Trump as just another rich guy, but I was also only just getting into politics.

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