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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow Long Have You Hated Trump?
I have hated, despised and abhored this monster since the 80's when he was elevated to national status. I hated his smug, smarmy, silver spoon in his mouth, white privileged face as soon as a saw it. I recognized evil. I was right.
Anybody have the same visceral reaction to him back in the old days when he was allegedly a Democrat?
On edit: God, he makes me want to puke!!
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)when he started feuding with Rosie ODonnell. My hate increased exponentially when he asserted that Obamas birth certificate was fake.
trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)Orrex
(63,223 posts)So I'd say that I've hated him since the early 90s.
AZ8theist
(5,492 posts)He was a scumbag back then, and a scumbag now. Been a scumbag his entire life.
But at least back then he didn't COMMIT TREASON.
It wasn't until the 90's that the fucking Russians BOUGHT his sorry fat ass..
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)and wealthy people and celebrities and media fawning over him like he was a king. Said he was the greatest self promoter of all time.
Such a disconnect between you who knew the real trump along with so many he bilked. Did those who knew not have any voice? Maybe it was just because people weren't as informed without internet.
AZ8theist
(5,492 posts)Low intelligence, unsophisticated, 2 bit con man. He was never accepted in to high society. Only humored.
If he didn't rip off $400M from his family in his fathers will, he'd be selling shitty condos from a street corner in Queens right now.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Green Line
(1,123 posts)pnwest
(3,266 posts)him as an unserious, bragadocious buffoon who I instinctively did not trust. But he didnt affect my life so he was easy to ignore. I began to actively hate him with the birtherism bullshit.
Raven
(13,899 posts)a pucker-lipped dandy rich boy of no consequence. Shows you how wrong I was!
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)Otherwise I jus thought him a trust fund clown, pissing away daddy's money.
essme
(1,207 posts)during the 80's and 90's. I THINK I went in the Trump Casino in Atlantic City the one time I was there- but, I am not really a gambler, so I can't say for sure if that was the one I visited.
I vaguely recall seeing his pictures in People magazine- you know, him and Ivana at Studio 54 or some other place where stars hung out. Being from NC, those photos might as well have been taken on Mars.
I would have to say it was his silly assed birther shit that put him on my radar. I kept wondering what in the fuck he was even talking about.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)My loathing of him has only grown, day by day. He has shattered whatever fables I bought into, about this being a decent and intelligent country. If circumstances permitted, I'd leave and live out my final days in a better place.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)... but it wasn't until 2015 that I learned what a complete asshole Chump was. Tony Schwartz the author of "The Art of the Deal" really opened my eyes. Tony finally spoke out about Chump after his NDA expired. Since then we've seen daily and hourly exhibitions of Chump's assholery, and it has been the main topic of conversation on DU.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,043 posts)He was still married to Ivana for the next several years after that. They were both like members of an alien species to me. Just vile, utterly materialistic, soulless creeps.
bdtrppr6
(796 posts)always knew he was a douche
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I found him vile, vulgar and disgusting the moment I became aware of his worthless existence.
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)assholery, even then, raged like a bonfire.
Second only to Nixon in my hatred. Then.
Now, he's NUMBER 1 on my list.
Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)As a yute, I had to travel to NYC on financial market business. 40 years ago he gave people the creeps, and everyone had seen assholes like him dodge the draft a decade earlier.
Anyone who could read an income statement and balance sheet knew the numbers didnt add up. Which was his business planexploit those who cant understand a financial statement.
dameatball
(7,399 posts)him on every block." (referring to NYC).
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)She called me in tears the morning that the indigenous people at Standing Rock were setting their teepees on fire, and that is when I began to realize he wasn't just going to be an incompetent person who accomplished nothing, but that he might be seriously dangerous. My mother doesn't overreact to things, or cry a lot. She said that was a harbinger of things to come.
Prior to that, I worked as an assistant to an older, wiser person who had met with Trump about a loan he wanted for a doomed and incredibly tasteless "real estate" project in Los Angeles, and to that person, Trump was nothing more than a joke, so I took my cues from him initially.
LeftInTX
(25,545 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)been exceptionally steep. I just began studying tyrants, dictators and authoritarians; nearly all of them were charlatans before they were dictators.
LeftInTX
(25,545 posts)Hitler and Mussolini: Both were pariah's and cast offs from a government that they were trying to make inroads with...
I should read up more on some other dictators such as Amin and some from the Americas, but don't have time.
The one thing that prevented Trump from total control was our fairly stable govt, as compared to Italy and Germany post WWI. Other modern dictators have gained power in governments that have fairly longstanding unstable governments.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)The death of Robert F. Kennedy marked the demise of the hotel coinciding with the decline of the surrounding neighborhood during the late 1960s and 1970s. The area also saw a surge of illegal drugs, poverty, and gang activity infiltrating the Wilshire corridor. Under the direction of Sammy Davis, Jr., the Now Grove replaced the classic Cocoanut Grove in 1970 in order to appeal to a modern nightclub crowd.[6] However, patrons lost interest in both the hotel and the neighborhood surrounding it, which caused the Ambassador Hotel to fall into disrepair throughout the years. Because of this the Ambassador Hotel closed to guests in 1989, but it remained opened for filming and hosting private events. In 1991, Donald Trump, who had bought the hotel in hopes of tearing it down to build a 125-story building, sold off silver serving platters with the hotel's eagle-topped crest, tiki-style soup bowls from the famed Cocoanut Grove nightclub, and beds and nightstands from the rooms.[13]
No, Trump didn't get the loan from the man I worked for; he kicked Trump out of his office and told him not to come back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Hotel_(Los_Angeles)#Decline_and_closure
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)and blamed Hillary
LeftInTX
(25,545 posts)He was tabloid fodder in the 80s along with all sorts of "rich and famous" people...I hated the 80's and Trump was part of it...
Didn't pay too much attention to him...all I knew is that he got lots of attention for being rich...Never would have thought he would run for president and freak'n win. Didn't know much about his personality and I really didn't care. I knew he had trouble staying in relationships as many privileged celebrities do. That is really all I noticed about him. I didn't live in NY. Didn't watch the Apprentice.
This is what happens when you give someone like him too much power.
His ascendancy into politics just kinda creeped up on everyone. He started the birther thing, but I dismissed it as attention getting by a celebrity..
He was always spouting his mouth...Apparently, he was on Larry King and told Larry that he was bad breath over and over...but it was a joke. Always looking for attention. The birther thing and even his segment on Larry King were all power plays....
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)blew up. I didn't pay much attention to him; he was just an obnoxious rich playboy asshole, one of those useless people who was famous for being famous, and before the late '80s he was probably well-known only to people in NYC. I didn't really notice how much of an asshole he was until he went after the Central Park Five, demanding the death penalty. Never watched The Apprentice, which sounded like a really stupid show.
marybourg
(12,634 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)I despise men who have trophy wives. I despise attention whores. There are many other reasons to despise Trump, but I started despising him around 30 years ago.
Runningdawg
(4,522 posts)When he sealed up the building a few doors down from me in NYC. No heat, no water, no electricity. Just 43 occupants left, all over the age of 70, most with no family left either, with no where to go but to their death in a state run nursing home or on the street.
A group I was involved with took care of them the best we could. We were able to find places for some of them to live, we helped a few find distant relatives and in one case an old guy became roommates with a guy who fought with him in WWII.
FUCK DJT
True Dough
(17,319 posts)It's a mini series about the Central Park Five (or, as they rightfully prefer to be called, "the Exonerated Five." Trump makes appearances in the show via actual TV news clips from the time of the incident and he was calling for the death penalty against these five young men who were framed by the "justice" system despite a lack of evidence. Trump spent $85,000 on a full-page ad in the NY Times as well.
I was too young at the time of that particular Central Park sexual assault and beating to have an interest in current affairs, but watching that mini series infuriated me in a number of ways, stinking Trump prime among them.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)He behaved like an ass but i thought he truly was a self made billionaire..knew nothing about his father
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)his buildings...I lived in Connecticut at the time...and a number of my Dad's friends...both my Dad and my older brothers and sister despised Trump.
Lokee11
(235 posts)Always thought he was an Orange pile of 💩 since as far back as I can remember -
Admittedly did not realize how big a pile initially.
FDT!
KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)I don't respect him enough to hate him. He didn't used to be worth even 1 moment's space in my life. In 2007 or 2008 when someone I love spewed words that "Obama is not even a citizen", it was annoying as hell having to give Trump any attention whatsoever.
I'd be thrilled if the damn nuisance croaks, but I'll be happy enough if he just goes the hell away. Maybe he'll exile to Russia and annoy them for awhile.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)He loves attention and hate works fine for him, he loves it. Don't give him that hate, just try to ignore and pity him, that's what he hates.
The Figment
(494 posts)He was a dick then and he's a dick now, he's doing all this shit as "payback" for losing the election, "If I can't have it then I'll just fuck everything up so y'all be too busy cleaning up the mess to get anything done"
Little kid having a tantrum....frickin asshole
raccoon
(31,119 posts)marble falls
(57,195 posts)42bambi
(1,753 posts)Trumps point of view.
Gothmog
(145,553 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)just wrote him off as another rich asshole spending his father's money. Spending it badly, btw.
Hate began with the the Central Park Five and him taking out full page ads for their execution. Hatred fully ensued when they were proven innocent and his attitude was "Central Park who?"
fierywoman
(7,693 posts)perfect place to pee when we were window shopping on Fifth Avenue.
Since I was raised on Long Island, I'm used to NY accents, which are mostly very dear to me -- but his accent I've always hated.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)Now, I cannot remember that specifically but I know exactly what I would have thought about him. He just looks like every privileged predator I have ever seen. He stinks of it.
Initech
(100,100 posts)I remember seeing the ads for that show and was wondering why people would want to watch a show about someone getting fired?
AirmensMom
(14,648 posts)I saw him on a talk show sometime in the 80s, maybe even early 80s and thought he was outrageously conceited and lacking a moral compass. I saw him tear up Atlantic City, which is near where we stayed when my dad was in Vietnam. Can't remember the year of that either, but I'm guessing it was in the 80s. I heard Oprah call him "The Donald" on her show and just about puked. She was part of the problem.
I could never see the appeal of his Apprentice show. Watched it once out of curiosity and figured out pretty fast that whether or not a person got hired was quite similar to why people got voted off the island in Survivor. In neither case did the most deserving/capable person stay. If I wanted office politics, I just had to go to work.
Chainfire
(17,636 posts)I hate what he has done to my country. Trump deserves justice, in fact, we should insist upon it.
catbyte
(34,447 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,143 posts)And so odd since he gave cause to lose more in divorce from Ivana.
I also recall his conniving behavior when he rebuilt Wollman Rink in Central Park in the mid-eighties.
By the time he flaunted Maples in Marble Collegiate Church @ 1990 he was clearly reckless and abusive. And so was Miss Maples. But Ivana was just a 70's version of Melania, so his misogyny was a draw with their conniving.
mahina
(17,696 posts)Hes made that difficult for me since he started the birth certificate insult show.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)i've more or less hated him since then but it was a distant bell. more like contempt. i have to admit i cannot, without googling, say what he did at the time to earn this contempt, but i know it was there.
never watched a single episode of the apprentice.
never appreciated that his birther bullshit was being swallowed whole by millions of people (it was so absurd).
so, 2015. it was probably 2015 before he even touched my radar enough to excite hate.
can't wait until he fades away from my consciousness. like nixon or reagan. i'll hate him but it won't eat at me.
johnp3907
(3,732 posts)He wasnt on my radar before that.
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)That's the first time I remember reading about him. I was working in a bookstore and would read Spy magazine on breaks.
Any, and all, mentions of him were about what a self-aggrandizing shitheel he was. I had to agree.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)I know it at least goes back to The Apprentice
He was gross then and nothing has changed
George II
(67,782 posts)....after the market crash on October 19, 1987.
People were losing their life savings and he was gloating over profiting from the crash.
Of course it was a lie anyway, he was never a big investor in the stock market.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)Right after the crash he went on the radio, or maybe it was TV, and bragged that he was so smart that he sold all his stocks just a couple days before the crash. In light of all that's happened since, I doubt if that was true, but he's still a putz for even saying it. So many people were harmed by that crash, especially the Wall Streeters.
I was living in northern Jersey and working in Manhattan when all that went down.
George II
(67,782 posts)....(fill in between my real jobs)
Back then roughly 40% of all transactions went through that office. It was a creepy day - by 10 AM people knew something was going on. A couple of hours later an eerie pall fell on the room. We had windows that opened, we did and looked out - Wall Street was deserted in the middle of the afternoon. Then going home on the subway it was dead silent. People looked like zombies.
We knew it was bad, but not how bad until we got home.
I'll never forget that day.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)i've known about the whole poe family since early 60's. all are worthless ! from great grand father to now ! trump trib need to run out of this country period
niyad
(113,550 posts)PaulRevere08
(449 posts)treated the employees terribly and the stories were enough to convince me he was just an a-hole blowhard.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Kaleva
(36,340 posts)For the good of the nation and the world, I'll be glad when he's out of office.
dchill
(38,532 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)They referred to him as the "Short fingered vulgarian" for as long as I can remember...at least back to the 80's. And then there was this. I miss Spy.
https://splinternews.com/lets-remember-the-time-donald-trump-cashed-a-13-check-1793849388
DinahMoeHum
(21,808 posts)And I remember that 13-cent check story, too!
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/spy-vs-trump
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)this menace early on...probably mid-70s. His cruelty, nastiness, privilege, narcissism, dishonesty, etc. were evident back then as his business dealings became public fodder. Stories of his evictions were legend.
When he rode down that golden escalator in 2015, there was no way, IMO, he would ever make it to pResident. Over and over I predicted he wouldn't get through the primaries. How could this jackass who had tormented NYC for years become a nominee for pResident? Surely the rest of the US would see this guy for the belligerent phony he was. Uh...NOPE. It was becoming evident that too many were buying his "successful businessman" persona from The Apprentice. I still blame Mark Burnett for bringing this idiot to the fore.
January 20 can't get here fast enough. 24 days - tick tock.
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neurochaos
(72 posts)had bought in on the image they was selling of Trump as being a smart business man. The first inkling of me noticing racial bias from Trump was the season of Randal Pinkett (a black man). It was obvious that Randall was hands down the one who should win but Trump was looking for any reason not to name him sole winner, even asking if he would share the title with another contestant (a white woman). But when Trump started pushing the racist birther lie about President Obama, I WAS DONE with his show I actually hated him like poison from that point forward.
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)Probably on some talk show in the 70s. I could tell immediately he was a pile of bullshit. I didn't realize his level of cruelty and evil until decades later, though.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)The same elementary school I believe. She was a year or two ahead of him and said he was an arrogant ass even as a little kid.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)The debate with Clinton when he went feral toward her. Knew then he was a bully, a coward and a sadist. Nothing he's done since changed my opinion.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)we will have once Biden is in office. Think of it!
*Good, capable, good hearted Dems in positions to make us stronger
*Decency
*Compassion for others less fortunate
*The beauty of the arts will be back in the White House for perfomances!
*A happier, healthier population
*Respect from other countries
*leadership in hard times
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)Pretty much since I first saw a photo of him and I wanted to throw up.
bsiebs
(688 posts)She was always running ads for her hotels.. she and trump were not friends.. she eventually went to jail for some kind of fraud.. but god trump was miserable back then too...
wnylib
(21,603 posts)with his marital scandal, but paid little attention to it.
Became really aware of him with the Apprentice. Watched 2 or 3 episodes and quickly disliked his arrogance. Came across to me as a puffed up con artist. I could not comprehend the eagerness of contestants to work for such a BS buffoon.
I began to really snicker at him when Obama roasted him at the press corps dinner.
The contempt came during the 2016 campaign. The loathing began in his first month in office with the deliberately cruel and sudden immigration ban that left thousands stranded after selling all they had to buy tickets to the US when they were vetted.
It grew exponentionally since then.
I recognized his fascist tendencies in 2016. Tried not to fall into deep hatred for my sake, not his, but failed. I loathe him, but refuse to get bogged down in it. Best remedy for me is to focus on what we will do without him.
So my loathing of him was a process that grew the more I knew about him. Zero redeeming qualities.
Bev54
(10,071 posts)thought of him as an irrelevant boor who made me gag. Luckily I only saw him a couple of times on TV and would just turn the channel. I really started to hate him during his Obama birth certificate scandal and could not understand why anyone with a brain would follow such an obvious imbecile.
davekriss
(4,627 posts)NNadir
(33,542 posts)...he was just another jerk on a reality show in which I had no interest.
zed nada
(60 posts)...the smarmy little Jared and Brett Kavanaugh pasty, pouty little Crispin Glover want-to-be's. Wish I could've gone to school with them just to take away their lunch money. And when he went bankrupt on the casino costing lots of people their jobs and imagined security, he blew it off in interviews like it was no big deal.....
BMW2020RT
(139 posts)homegirl
(1,433 posts)of his celebrity.
I knew he had imported labor from Eastern Europe to work on one of his buildings, then exported them back to Europe just before ICE was about to strike.
Then he destroyed the Art Deco facade of the Bonwit Teller building, when he should have had it carefully removed and preserved, then donated and installed at his expense in a New York City Museum.
Recently I learned that a family business lost $300K over the years when Donald stiffed contractors the company had sold materials and services to, can't get blood from a stone.
They don't get much lower then Donald!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,191 posts)Prior to that I learned he was not a "successful entrepreneur" back in the 90s when his daddy had to bail his casino out. In casino gambling the rules are in the house's favor. One has to be really incompetent to lose money.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I watched the Apprentece once and was not at all impressed with tRump but didn't actually learn that he was hatable, as opposed to just ignorable, until the birtherism crap.
I'm still a bit shocked that anybody took him seriously. And that's even given the stupidity and gulible wishful thinking that i already knew existed within the REPtilian party.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)JCMach1
(27,572 posts)In the Houston Airport. He is an embarrassing POS, asshat from the get go...
Mister Ed
(5,943 posts)And that for as long as he's been in the public eye.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)So, since then. He was always cartoonishly awful.
handmade34
(22,757 posts)even though it wasn't entirely his doing, his involvement was my first awareness... have known he was a vile person for decades
VA_Jill
(9,995 posts)although I can't remember when that was. Is that long enough?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)The Newspaper ad calling for the Death Penalty.
He was actually calling for a lynching of juveniles.
Rape is not a Capital crime.
Juveniles were not able to receive the death penalty.
New York had not executed anyone in decades.
He was trying to provoke executions.
Jut as he is trying to provoke violence now.
yonder
(9,673 posts)and named it Marla because they were always in the news. The dislike we have for him and everything associated with him is at least that old.
I expect Marla will have to be taken down within 10 years. She's too big and like that family, has taken over. She's plenty shady though.
IronLionZion
(45,526 posts)and was disgusted that he would do it to our first non-white president. I didn't know about his political views before that and never watched the apprentice.
Music Man
(1,184 posts)The Onion had a headline around that time: "America Delighted By Rich Ass Who Fires People."
That about said it.
shanti
(21,675 posts)from the very beginning. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. He has always nauseated me. The idea of watching his show doesn't even register.
Desert_Leslie
(131 posts)I watched a couple episodes of The Apprentice way back when. My reaction was, who the living hell does he think he is? He is nothing but a failed commercial real estate developer who has declared bankruptcy multiple times. WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS?
richdj25
(164 posts)day. Why, cause he's no different than quite a few nut jobs I've come across in my lifetime. Just because he's president doesn't change that point of view. And just an fyi.......from an African American perspective, we've seen this sort of thing play out for many a generation. See Reconstruction, Jim Crow and the like.
judesedit
(4,443 posts)He's always given me the creepy crawlies. He's a huge LOSER in everything he gets involved in.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)of The Apprentice since it started in 2004 but after he went after Obama I was done.
However, growing up in NYC, we all knew that he was a cheater and always going bankrupt
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)The jets on the spa tub malfunctioned, shot up in the air and flooded the room. I slipped fell, hurt my back and ruined the rest of our vacation.
Other than switching us to another room, the Trump organization did nothing for us. I had never heard of him before then, but did the research and found out what a scumbag he was even then, probably around a decade ago.
The hotel decor was gaudy and tacky in my view, even by Vegas standards.
EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts).....comic called "HUP #3"
https://www.crumbproducts.com/Hup-Comics-Issue-3-Crumb-Vs-Trump_p_156.html
SeattleVet
(5,479 posts)to build his tRump Tower Temple of Obscene Opulence.
The Metropolitan Museum of Art was going to remove and conserve them. They needed two weeks to get everything finalized. He didn't want to wait that long before starting the demolition, so he had them jackhammered. (The ornate gates there also turned up missing, and where those went has never been properly explained.)
Then he started appearing in all local NYC media, and got his ugly smug mug splashed all over.
electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)upped my disgust for him!..
I was wondering at some point what building was torn down for the TT.
housecat
(3,121 posts)Well my husband saw what he was in the '80s. The sound could have been off on tv to see evil.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)He's never not been a sleaze.
BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)it is the presence of justice.
-Martin Luther King Jr.
GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)Before he ran for President, I just looked at him as another fucking parasite who was cut from the same bolt of cloth as the Kardassians, Paris Hilton, Tomi Lahren, Lori Laughlin's brats, etc. You know...people who became famous for being famous, in spite of not having ever done anything of consequence in their entire useless lives.
That's not to say I don't hold him in the utmost contempt now. But, I have been able to keep myself from crossing the "hate" line by reminding myself that Trump ALWAYS makes things worse for Trump. And, in stealing the Presidency, he just made the biggest mistake of his useless fucking life. I just have enough patience to sit back and wait until we all get to see him suffer the consequences of that theft and his subsequent behavior.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Let us know whenever that "suffer the consequences" shit finally gets under way, if ever. We can look around at that point and see what remains of our country.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,633 posts)I became aware of him when his affair with Marla became tabloid fodder. I dismissed him as mildly amusing blowhard. I began side eyeing him during his feud with Rosie. I started thinking he was a thin skinned douchebag and tried to ignore him. I didn't really start hating him until the birtherism bullshit. After this I found out about the serial racism, misogynistic attitude, stiffing contractors, and Central Park Five. I really, really hated how he bullied Hillary Clinton.
Silent3
(15,265 posts)I was only vaguely aware of Trump until the birtherism crap that came out during his 2012 fizzled presidential run. As disgusting as that was, I still didn't take Trump seriously enough to get too worked up about him, because he just seemed like a side show, a joke.
I certainly didn't pay any attention to The Apprentice, and Trumps' history before that was very fuzzy to me.
The last five years, however, I've packed in a century and a half's worth of hatred for the man.
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Then he really showed the world how evil & stupidity make a toxic combination. I always knew he was a fraud and con man.
RVN VET71
(2,697 posts)It was the blatant racism of his efforts to discredit Obama that turned my stomach. Prior to that I regarded him as an egotistical douche bag who made a lot of money in NYC real estate and who screwed up royally in Atlantic City. His attack on Obama showed his nasty, foul and racist nature.
His taking credit -- if you remember -- for surfacing Obamas actual birth certificate (as if that was the reason he pursued his racist vendetta against a man who is more articulate, better educated, more intelligent and witty and physically healthy and athletic than he) signaled to me that was mentally disturbed.
I never watched the Apprentice show but all the while it was on I actually thought it was just cruel side-light to his brilliant endeavors in the business world. Yes, I said brilliant which shows how little I knew at the time.
I now despise him as a racist xenophobe, as an authoritarian wannabe, as an inept leader who nevertheless has a certain evil genius in his ability to stir up crowds of bottom feeders with a rambling speech and get many top feeders to kiss his ring with promises of greater and greater wealth to feed their greed.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)I remember hearing his name when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s but I didn't really have an opinion of him. I thought he was just another selfish, rich prick who married a much younger woman. I never watched "The Apprentice" and neither did anyone of my friends or family.
I was working at a newspaper when he announced his campaign. We had several TVs on at work so I watched for a short while. I was laughing about how stupid it was. Then he said that Mexicans were drug dealers, criminals and rapists. I remember saying "this guy is an as****e" and went back to what I was working on my computer.
I figured that he would drop out soon and I wouldn't have to think about him again. Of course, since I worked at a major newspaper, that did not happen.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I didn't pay much attention to him before that.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)They'd always interview him on TV as being one of the "new breed" of movers and shakers in NYC. He made me want to vomit then, and he makes we want to projectile vomit now.
Doc_Technical
(3,527 posts)Cozmo
(1,402 posts)when he started fucking up in Atlantic City with his 3 ill-conceived competing casinos. He is the only person in the world who lost money on a Rolling Stones concert. As usual the Stone's made a lot of money from their business venture with tRump. But he is such an ignorant businessman he lost lots of dough on this because tRump wanted the elan associated with the Stones. He told his people to pay any amount of money, even at a loss. It was a loss, BIGLY. Mick and especially Keith wanted nothing to do with him, they wouldn't even let him come to the concert and he owned the concert venue. Now, how stupid is that????
dameatball
(7,399 posts)ananda
(28,876 posts)Something about him always struck me the wrong way.
paleotn
(17,956 posts)He was a cheap PT Barnum, then a hawker of cheap crap and then some cheap cable TV guy I never wasted my time watching. He didn't really impact me or the vast majority of Americans. Lots of of riff raff like that running around. Then he became a serious contender for president and everything changed. So, since 2016 I've hated him and all of his sycophants with the heat of a thousand suns. There are so many things I'd like done to him and his ilk. None of them pleasant and most would elicit a visit by the Secret Service.
electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)the earlier '80's in my late 20s into my later 30s.
I followed my R&R favorites, some actors, some scientists, and occasionally glanced at the over all "rich & famous".I found him boorish.
I didn't follow big real estate in general (though eventually the middle class building we lived in that our landlord ran down in the '60s was named in the Village Voice's '10 worst landlords of the year' several years after we escaped) so I really didn't know about the crap he pulled or follow that much about finance in general - though I did know about (and be disgusted by) Insider Trading. I watched 2 halves of 2 of his Apprentice show.
With the (CP) Exonerated Five -that- raised my alarm bells into close to hatred. I heard about his casinos.
It was the 'birherism' that solidified my hatred for him. That's when I began to also hear more overall about his bad doings.
But "besides" seeing the increasing cruelty, and evilness in each present day, weeks, months of his pResidency - that's when I found out the full extent (as we currently understand) of his past shady to outright cruel actions.
I will be jubilant when he finally loses his presidencial powers!!!!!
Very concerned about his further influence which we'll see how that unfurls.
doc03
(35,364 posts)they always pick to play the bad guy in movies. My mother passed away at 93 back in 2012 she would say I can't
stand that man every time she saw him. At least she never saw him become president. I would give a $1000 just to
put my fist in his carp like mouth.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)I am from NY. Tried to warn ya!
Skittles
(153,193 posts)pompous phony
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budkin
(6,714 posts)Before that I just thought he was a loudmouth.
marmar
(77,090 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Mossfern
(2,552 posts)an asshole in the '80's. I didn't start hating him until 2016 when the asshole had an effect on my life.
Raine
(30,540 posts)the last President I truly hated was Raygun and hating him was a big mistake on my part, I made myself miserable for 8yrs. After that I swore I would never waste my time on hating someone who would never know or care how I felt.
Hekate
(90,788 posts)...about DT was what I read in Doonesbury.
Then he went after Obama. Despicable.
Then he went after Hillary and stalked her around the debate stage. What a pig.
msfiddlestix
(7,285 posts)To say I Hate this person would imply that I once loved him.
I have never liked what I saw displayed in the news back in the 80's and 90's. I never watched Apprentice and frankly couldn't understand how any one would. The few clips that would be shown on ads seemed so freaking moronic, how was it possible that our culture could support a tv show like that. And anyone like him.
When he tossed his hat and started campaigning I soon realized (it didn't take long) that this person was seriously mentally ill. I'm not a doctor but it's not required in real life to be able to take a look at any of the scenes from his rallies and KNOW that this guy was a whacked out nut job and dangerous.
Dislike, loath, contempt, revolted yes all that and more. But the term HATE is weird to apply, because it requires one has to have loved that person before it turned to hate.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)eom
marlakay
(11,490 posts)And stupid but after pussy grabber I can do anything thats when hate started.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)when I really found out more about him personally. Before Obama's presidency, I saw Trump as just another rich guy, but I was also only just getting into politics.