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DBoon

(22,350 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:15 PM Dec 2020

Interesting older NTY article on the source of 5G cell service disinformation

This article points to Russia - no surprise.


The Russian network RT America aired the segment, titled “A Dangerous ‘Experiment on Humanity,’” in covering what its guest experts call 5G’s dire health threats. U.S. intelligence agencies identified the network as a principal meddler in the 2016 presidential election. Now, it is linking 5G signals to brain cancer, infertility, autism, heart tumors and Alzheimer’s disease — claims that lack scientific support.

Yet even as RT America, the cat’s paw of Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, has been doing its best to stoke the fears of American viewers, Mr. Putin, on Feb. 20, ordered the launch of Russian 5G networks in a tone evoking optimism rather than doom.

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Moscow’s goal, experts say, is to destabilize the West by undermining trust in democratic leaders, institutions and political life. To that end, the RT network amplifies voices of dissent, to sow discord and widen social divides. It gives the marginal a megaphone and traffics in false equivalence. Earlier campaigns took aim at fracking, vaccination and genetically modified organisms. One show called designer tomatoes “good-looking poison.”

The network is now applying its playbook against 5G by selectively reporting the most sensational claims, and by giving a few marginal opponents of wireless technology a conspicuous new forum.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/science/5g-phone-safety-health-russia.html
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Interesting older NTY article on the source of 5G cell service disinformation (Original Post) DBoon Dec 2020 OP
We have no reason to believe 5G is safe Ponietz Dec 2020 #1
Bookmarking for later. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 #3
Thank you for posting this. Mike 03 Dec 2020 #4
How COULD it be safe? dchill Dec 2020 #5
Also from scientificamerican kcr Dec 2020 #6
I'm siding with the NYT on this one for now, but people should know that Johns Hopkins Mike 03 Dec 2020 #2
Much more work needs to be done with insects and birds Ponietz Dec 2020 #7
Devra Davis is a quack kcr Dec 2020 #8
Why am I not at all surprised Russia is involved in this? Initech Dec 2020 #9

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,359 posts)
3. Bookmarking for later.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:51 PM
Dec 2020
Joel M. Moskowitz

Joel M. Moskowitz, PhD, is director of the Center for Family and Community Health in the School of Public Health at the University of California, Berkeley. He has been translating and disseminating the research on wireless radiation health effects since 2009 after he and his colleagues published a review paper that found long-term cell phone users were at greater risk of brain tumors. His Electromagnetic Radiation Safety website has had more than two million page views since 2013. He is an unpaid advisor to the International EMF Scientist Appeal and Physicians for Safe Technology.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. I'm siding with the NYT on this one for now, but people should know that Johns Hopkins
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:50 PM
Dec 2020

epidemiologist and Clinton appointee Devra Davis wrote a detailed rebuttal to that article. (Disclosure: I've never owned a cell phone, but not really out of fear of its health consequences).

Accusations of Russia lobbying are ricocheting around the media and have now been extended through a front-page article in the New York Times positing that scientists and consumer advocates calling to halt 5G have fallen under the spell of RT, a news network registered as a Russian foreign agent in the U.S. Could it be a coincidence that following on the heels of the NY Times story, the Wall Street Journal and the UK Telegraph have echoed the same smear of guilt by association, portraying scientists who warn of the potential environmental and health damages of 5G as untethered alarmists unwittingly linked to Russian propaganda? These otherwise credible media sources ignore the substantial body of science pinpointing hazards of wireless radiation and 5G detailed in independent journalistic investigations that have appeared extensively in media throughout Europe and been covered by major networks.

William J. Broad, author of the Times’ unusually placed opinion piece, is an award-winning investigative journalist, known for searching studies of complex technical issues including matters of space exploration and national intelligence. By relegating concerns about 5G to a Russian ploy, he misses altogether the fact that the purportedly independent international authorities on which he relies that declare 5G to be safe are an exclusive club of industry-loyal scientists. China, Russia, Poland, Italy and several other European countries allow up to hundreds of times less wireless radiation into the environment from microwave antennas than does the U.S.. Moreover, while many other countries regularly monitor levels of environmental radiation, the last EPA report on the topic was released in 1986, back when a gallon of gasoline cost less than one dollar and streetcars still ran in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Environmental levels of wireless radiation in the U.S. and worldwide are growing exponentially.

The history of research on the environmental and public health impacts of radio frequency microwave radiation (“wireless radiation”) reveals some uneasy parallels with that of tobacco. In the 1950s and 1960s, scientists who showed the harmful impacts of tobacco found themselves struggling for serious attention and financial support. The validity of their views was only accepted after the toll of sickness and death had become undeniable. For health impacts from wireless radiation, a similar pattern is emerging. Each time a U.S. government agency produced positive findings, research on health impacts was defunded. The Office of Naval Research, the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, and the Environmental Protection Agency all once had vibrant research programs documenting dangers of wireless radiation. All found their programs scrapped, reflecting pressure from those who sought to suppress this work.

Russian’s 50 years of research on electromagnetic radiation since the Cold War has led to their clear understanding that this exposure does have biological effects.


https://medium.com/swlh/5g-the-unreported-global-threat-717c98c9c37d

Devra Lee Davis, (born June 7, 1946) is an American epidemiologist and writer.[1]

Davis works on disease prevention and environmental health factors. She served as the President Clinton appointee to the Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board from 1994 to 1999, having won bipartisan Senate confirmation. She was Founding Director of the Center for Environmental Oncology, the first of its kind in the world, and presently acts as President of Environmental Health Trust, a non-profit organization focusing on drawing attention to man-made health threats. She lectures at American and European universities and her research has been covered in major scientific publications as well as being highlighted on major media outlets like CNN, CSPAN, CBC, BBC, and public radio.[2][3] In recent years, her attention has become focused on the health hazards of exposures to man-made sources of electromagnetic radiation, especially those from wireless devices.

She has also authored more than 190 publications in books and journals ranging from The Lancet and the Journal of the American Medical Association to Scientific American and The New York Times, and writes for blogs such as Freakonomics in the New York Times, in The Huffington Post, and elsewhere.[4] She co-founded the Environmental Health Trust in 2007,[4] with David Servan-Schreiber.[citation needed]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devra_Davis

Just so people know that not everyone asking questions about 5G is automatically a "quack." Her book, The Secret History of the War on Cancer is very good.

Ponietz

(2,955 posts)
7. Much more work needs to be done with insects and birds
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:11 PM
Dec 2020

Exposure of Insects to Radio-Frequency Electromagnetic Fields from 2 to 120?GHz: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-22271-3

Risk to pollinators from anthropogenic electro-magnetic radiation (EMR): Evidence and knowledge gaps: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969719337805

Initech

(100,054 posts)
9. Why am I not at all surprised Russia is involved in this?
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020

And can we please as a world society, collectively cut Russia off from the rest of the internet already? They've done way more harm than good at this point.

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