Senate Democrats To Attempt To Pass $2,000 Stimulus Checks

[babylonsister]

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/12/27/senate-democrats-2000-stimulus-checks.html

Posted on Sun, Dec 27th, 2020 by Jason Easley
Senate Democrats To Attempt To Pass $2,000 Stimulus Checks


Senate Democratic Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) announced that Senate Democrats will attempt to pass $2,000 stimulus checks.


Schumer tweeted:

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Schumer is going to make Republicans object and block $2,000 stimulus checks a little more than a week before critical Senate runoff elections in Georgia.

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) said on Sunday that he opposes $2,000 stimulus checks, so it would not be surprising if Mitch McConnell sent Toomey out to take the bullet for his party. Sen. Toomey is retiring and not running for reelection in 2022, so he has nothing to lose by looking like a heartless jerk who is blocking help for millions of people in the middle of a pandemic.

Senate Republicans blocked $1,200 stimulus checks, so it is a certainty that they will object and block $2,000 checks. It is terrible political optics that undoes the myth that Loeffler and Perdue in Georgia delivered pandemic aid to the people of Georgia.

Schumer and the Democrats might not get the additional stimulus this week, but if they play their cards right that could win the Georgia runoffs and control of the Senate.

[LuvNewcastle]

1. Now I'm confused.

I read in another thread that Trumpy signed the Covid relief bill tonight down in Florida. If he already signed the bill, what is this?

[TDale313]

2. An add on, I believe

The other is passed, this would be additional if it went through.

[LuvNewcastle]

7. I see, thanks for the clarification.

[Takket]

3. he did......

the house is passing an amendment to said bill to increase the $600 to $2000. if it fails we get the $600.

[LuvNewcastle]

4. Thanks, I was wondering if the other article

was wrong or if mayne I shouldn't have made my little whisky drink.

[joshcryer]

8. No worries, the $600 is one and done.

2-3 weeks tops.

[joshcryer]

5. McConnell will let him take the floor?

Curious. If he does this will pass.

[mwooldri]

9. I know Rand Paul would object.

But then would it get a Senate vote?

[joshcryer]

12. Yes.

They would have cloture, there would not be a single senator, not even Rand Paul, who would filibuster for real, and they would vote on it. I will be shocked if Schumer actually is allowed to present the bill.

[rso]

10. McConnell

If Mitch agrees to a Senate vote, it will pass. They need 60 votes, and I’m sure at least 12 republican Senators will vote for it.

[joshcryer]

15. It will absolutely pass if it goes to the floor.

There's no way there aren't 12 Republican Senators who will want it. There will be phone banking all day tomorrow and Tuesday (when they are more likely to pass it). The Democrats will achieve victory in the House, the Senate will be totally fucked.

McConnell got checkmated by Pelosi.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. What about the liability piece? Thought trump added that too. Always

Thought that was all that mattered to gop. They don't give a shit about the $2000 if they get liability protections

[DallasNE]

29. P'm Sure The House Bill

Does not contain the liability protection that Trump says he wants so he would likely veto it anyway.

[Wounded Bear]

23. They don't need 60 votes to pass a bill. They only need 51 to pass something.

The 60 vote requirement is for if they fillibuster it. 60 to pass cloture, then 51 to pass the bill.

[rso]

26. Senate

I was assuming that some dick like Rand Paul would try to hold it up, that’s why I mentioned 60.

[MichMan]

11. So that would be a total of $2600 each?

[joshcryer]

13. The bill will likely be to amend the $600 to $2000.

Up and down straight bill to amend it.

[Celerity]

14. Even if we win both GA run-offs & Trump tells Pence to break the tie in the Senate for the 2000 USD

cheques, would not the Rethugs simply filibuster it and thus block it anyway, before it even came down to a final vote? Am I missing something?

TIA

Cel

[joshcryer]

16. McConnell doesn't let stuff come to a vote. Ever.

He does this to cover for the 20% or so of Republicans who live in shitty uber rural states who don't ever want to pass anything or even have to be on record voting for stuff or not voting for stuff. The United States is deeply purple. Senators in red states with populations are going to be very, very, tasked to actually vote for stuff. If, and I mean if, this is allowed to a vote, it will absolutely pass and there will be no filibuster because no Senator is going to stand there and speak for X hours to stop a vote that will pass anyway.

The filibuster is broken because it's virtual, they say "I declare a filibuster" and it's accepted as the reality. Endless pauses in action so nothing ever gets done. There's no more "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" where you read out the Yellow pages or read from the Bible to keep speaking and stop a vote from occurring. Rand Paul may try some shit but he'll have to sleep eventually. He can't stay awake 5 days.

[Celerity]

19. I know the filibuster is 'virtual'. What I am saying is that all it takes is one Rethug to declare

a filibuster and I cannot see how we get 10 (as 60 are needed and if we win the run-offs we are at 50) to cross lines and vote for cloture.

There are not 10 up for re-election in 2022 who are in swing states.
The only ones would be (as PA and NC are open seats then) For us to have 50-50 Loeffler will have lost, although she may try again in 2022

leaving.....

WI Johnson (the only other one, other than the two open seats ad perhaps Loeffler, if she wins the run-off, that we have a realistic shot at in 2022)

FL Rubio (very tough to beat in 2022)

then two even less likely to lose in 2022 Rethugs

IA Grassley in IA (IF he runs again, and its not really a swing state atm, although his age, if he runs, may fuck him, hopefully it does)

OH (Portman, and not really a swing seat, he will 98% likely romp to victory)

that is it, the rest are all ruby red locks

The ONLY way I could see it happening is IF Trump threatens enough of them with primaries in 2022 and 2024 if they do not vote to allow a vote (and then pass it) on the 2000 USD.

Is POS Trump really going to do this? Remember this will be AFTER the Electoral College votes are certified by both chambers of Congress (I am assuming), so he will then officially be out on his bloated orange arse on 12:01 PM January 20th, 2021.

[joshcryer]

20. The thing is, when a vote comes to the floor...

...a speaker is permitted to talk about it. (In fact, speaker priority is *how* a vote comes to the floor, a speaker is given priority to speak, and then they can propose a vote.) Schumer can make a very long, passionate speech, and no doubt, absolutely no doubt, dozens of other Democratic Senators are as of this very moment penning a speech to support it. So you get all these Democrats to make speeches about how they support the President's proposal for more stimulus relief, you put the rest of the Republicans in a bind.

Where does that put the Republican Senators? They say no to a vote? That is the same as voting no.

[Celerity]

22. Unless Trump threatens to primary them in 2022 and 2024 there are not nearly enough at risk

to vote for cloture. The fuckers simply do not care and see little risk to blocking the 2000 USD cheques, and wafflers like Collis and Murkowski (not even sure either supports the 2000 cheques) can simply hide behind the filibuster and say, well I would have voted for the 2000 IF there had been a final vote. It is all smoke and mirrors.

I still cannot believe that Collins easily (getting close to a double digit win) won re-election, and that Jeff Jackson (who would have fairly easily won the NC seat versus how the sexting-scandal idiot Cunningham tossed it away) refused to run (he damn well better run in 2022 for the open seat). There is our control of the Senate right there, regardless of what happens in the GA-runoffs. So infuriating that the loser (Trump) had such large overall coattails across the federal and state elections, whilst the winner, (Biden) had very little at all.

2022 terrifies me (especially based off 1994 (Gingrich Revolution) and 2010 (we lost a net 63 House seats and a lost a net 7 Senate seats), the last 2 first midterms for first time Dem POTUS's).

Assuming we do not win the GA-run-offs, I can see us (should we fail in 2022 to take the two open seats, PA and NC, plus fail to beat the fuckstick Johnson in WI) not only failing to retake the Senate, but actually potentially losing 3 more seats (NV, NH, and AZ, which would take us down to only 45), plus losing 20 to 35 net House seats (around 50 to 55 are potentially in play for us atm, 20-25 or so are super shaky), and thus control of the House itself as well (it will only take a net 5 losses atm to give the Rethugs control).

[msongs]

17. depends on if dems will also vote in favor of all the add-ons in trumps signing statement nt

[Wounded Bear]

24. That's all BS smoke and mirrors from Trump...

Congress doesn't need to do any of it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Agree... What about liability protection. All gopers care about

Surely Dems won't cave on that

[Klaralven]

18. Congress should override the Defense Bill veto and then leave town.

Let the $600 check go out now, and then have the next Congress start work on a new bill that Joe can sign 1/20 and send another $1400 out with his signature on the check.

Why give Trump a win?

[liskddksil]

21. Because people need the money now. Politics is irrelevant right now, but if anything

this whole fiasco has probably helped our Georgia candidates.

[Polybius]

25. Wouldn't it be $1,400 now?

Since the $600 just went into law.