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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are the odds trump and his family will flee the country?
I think trump doesn't trust Pence will pardon him if he resigns, and will either try to get others ( Putin, eric prince and others) try to pull something for trump , or flee to another country, is 50/50. He knows what's coming, and he and his family with many others will be getting exposed . Of course if he does he'll claim he's being victimized again by corrupt people, when the proof will show overwhelmingly he was working for putin , and tied to massive corruption , and horrific crimes all along. Along with GOP members of Congress. If he tries a self pardon, it'll easily fail. trump's desperation now is showing more every day.
mucifer
(23,478 posts)his crimes.
bearsfootball516
(6,373 posts)duforsure
(11,884 posts)But cornered desperate criminals do stupid things to prevent going to prison.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)State prisons is no fun for entitled white rich folks.
The odds are high in my view.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ability of trump to bully or buyoff state level politicians like he has for 30 years is over with a few exceptions There is no law, no federal pardon that prevents state level indictments. BUT trump becoming a resident of Florida, he would have to be extradited from Florida and he has bought off Florida politicians and judges before. Of course that requires him never to leave Florida, ever.
The walls are closing in and trumps will react accordingly with greater insanity.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I don't think he think he's ever done anything wrong because breaking the rules to reach the desired end is acceptable to him and his kind. Remember his response: "Because I'm smart...."
People like him and his family think that everyone breaks the rules, and whoever breaks the rules best is a "winner".
onenote
(42,581 posts)Not that it will stop some DUers from continuing to post this nonsense again and again between now and January 20.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The election was the ultimate prosecution and conviction.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)just call me "Cat, The Bounty Hunter".
North Shore Chicago
(3,301 posts)Not high enough.
Joinfortmill
(14,387 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)People don't get it, the Presidency basically makes you immune from prosecution. Why? The Dems aren't going to go after Trump and his family because they know that would mean that the Reps would go after the family of Ex Dem Presidents. I realize one family commits crimes, the others do not, but that's not how 2/5ths of the country sees it.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)They aren't leaving the country.
judesedit
(4,437 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Now not so much because it's pretty clear to me that he truly believes that his rich white and 'presidential' privilege will get him out of anything including all of the crimes he and his family have perpetrated in various states and this country.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... There is some motivation for him to do so.
he will lose the legal protections afforded to the president
hush-money payments made before the 2016 election
tax and insurance fraud, as well as falsification of business records
active tax fraud investigation
separate defamation lawsuits .
Mary Trump, the presidents niece, also has filed a lawsuit accusing him and two family members of fraud and conspiracy to deprive her of her share of the familys real-estate empire.
U.S. Justice Department for federal income-tax evasion charges.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/after-the-white-house-trump-faces-uncertain-future-and-legal-threats-idUSKBN28P19C