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(47,617 posts)They don't really seem to care who they are fighting. They are fixated with violence and want an excuse to start a war.
Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)And probably don't meet recruitment standards.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,651 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)durablend
(7,465 posts)If they can drag themselves away from pr0n
Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)That dawned on me as well, but the military would require that they abide by their regulations and they wouldn't have unrestrained access to the assault rifles that they seem to love so much. Like drunks in a neighborhood tavern, they just want to fight for the sake of fighting. They've probably watched too many action movies and imagine themselves as the bigger-than-life antihero.
Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)Not sure if that is the case any more.
These guys wouldn't make those requirements.
Yes they are living in a fantasy world.
PatSeg
(47,617 posts)just imagine them in boot camp.
Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)That's actually an amusing thought!
Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)PatSeg
(47,617 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,462 posts)They are show offs and the military would clap down on them in a minute.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)The absolute worst thing to do with a bully is to fear them.
The absolute best thing to do is challenge them in public.
TheBlackAdder
(28,222 posts).
Libertarianism is to be self-affecting, only caring about themselves. If others benefit from their actions, it's more by chance than planned. Libertarians are also the biggest takers of socialist programs, seeing what they get as deserved and what they cannot take advantage of as some form of tax they are somehow paying. They plug into as many programs as they can and resent programs that they cannot leverage to their benefit, and those people who can benefit from them.
Eventually, there has to be a leader, and sooner or later they will all consume one another, as resentment grows about being told what to do as a community member because it infringes on their rights or imposes a tax levy.
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PatSeg
(47,617 posts)They hate government and the restrictions government imposes on their precious liberty. However, they accept government assistance like unemployment, food stamps, or disability easily, because for some inexplicable reason THEY are entitled, but those people over there are lazy moochers.
In the end, it really never was about government. It was about selfishness and greed. They want what they want when they want it, but they aren't willing to share it with anyone else.
PatSeg
(47,617 posts)They hate government and the restrictions government imposes on their precious liberty. However, they accept government assistance like unemployment, food stamps, or disability easily, because for some inexplicable reason THEY are entitled, but those people over there are lazy moochers.
In the end, it really never was about government. It was about selfishness and greed. They want what they want when they want it, but they aren't willing to share it with anyone else.
Aristus
(66,467 posts)if there was only one MAGAT left, he'd attack the mirror...
chia
(2,244 posts)From psychologist Bob Altemeyer who created the right-wing authoritarianism scale:
https://theauthoritarians.org
"... remember that the premise behind Posse runs right down Main Street in the authoritarian aggression mind-set. When the authorities say, Go get em, the high RWAs saddle up.
Who can em be? Nearly everybody, it turns out. I started with a proposition to outlaw Communists and found authoritarian followers would be relatively likely to join that posse. Ditto for persecuting homosexuals, and ditto for religious cults, radicals and journalists the government did not like. So I tried to organize a posse that liberals would join, to go after the Ku Klux Klan. But high RWAs crowded out everyone else for that job too. Then I offered as targets the very right-wing Canadian Social Credit Party, the Confederation of Regions Party, and the mainstream Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. These were the parties of choice for most authoritarian followers at the time, yet high RWAs proved more willing to persecute even the movements they liked than did others.
Finally, just to take this to its ludicrous extreme, I asked for reactions to a law to eliminate right-wing authoritarians. (I told the subjects that right-wing authoritarians are people who are so submissive to authority, so aggressive in the name of authority, and so conventional that they may pose a threat to democratic rule.) RWA scale scores did not connect as solidly with joining this posse as they had in the other cases. Surely some of the high RWAs realized that if they supported this law, they were being the very people whom the law would persecute, and the posse should therefore put itself in jail. But not all of them realized this, for authoritarian followers still favored, more than others did, a law to persecute themselves. You can almost hear the circuits clanking shut in their brains: If the government says these people are dangerous, then theyve got to be stopped.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)Thanks for posting.
chia
(2,244 posts)it goes a long way in explaining the MAGA mindset.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Trump provided daily comfort to millions of pissed off Americans. Trump recognized and nurtured the anger and frustration of Middle Americans and deflected that anger onto Democrats.
Republicans exploit the pride of hard working people who dont want to ask for help. These people are the ones they target because they can be trained to strike out at Liberals who Republicans say are lazy and take their hard-earned money.
Initech
(100,105 posts)And Trump and social media are exploiting and abusing their extremely deep, dark side.
apnu
(8,759 posts)The MAGA/Q/fascist world is in the process as we speak.