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"Eventually, the MAGAs will turn on everyone. It's just a matter of time." (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP
They just want a fight PatSeg Dec 2020 #1
If they want to fight a war, join the military. Oh wait, they are really cowards at heart. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #2
They could easily qualify for Meal Team Six. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2020 #7
Right, that's about all they qualify for..... nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #9
"Keyboard Commandos" durablend Dec 2020 #10
The first time they faced real danger they would run screaming back to KFC. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #11
Oh yes PatSeg Dec 2020 #13
A person used to have to meet weight requirements and have a high school diploma. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #17
And if they did manage to get in, PatSeg Dec 2020 #18
They would be in barracks crying their eyes out. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #20
Yeah PatSeg Dec 2020 #23
Yes it is. Should be a sitcom. Magats go to boot camp. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #26
Now, that would be funny PatSeg Dec 2020 #27
Planning to capture and kill a female US governor is real bravery isn't it? Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #22
No. They want to bully. Because they are afraid to fight. Saboburns Dec 2020 #24
That's why there is not ONE Libertarian state. Two tried, eventually they all turned on each other. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #8
I've encountered so many people like that PatSeg Dec 2020 #15
I've encountered so many people like that PatSeg Dec 2020 #16
They're so full of hatred and resentment, Aristus Dec 2020 #4
The Authoritarians chia Dec 2020 #5
Very interesting BainsBane Dec 2020 #19
You're welcome. The ebook is free from the site, and even though it was written pre-Trump, chia Dec 2020 #21
Trump leaving is creating a vacuum of epic proportions. Baked Potato Dec 2020 #6
They are the abusive jerks, liars, and bullies of the world. Initech Dec 2020 #12
That is happening right now. apnu Dec 2020 #14
Yes, because they are sociopaths. I learned the hard way. They are faithful to none but themselves. Midnight Writer Dec 2020 #25

PatSeg

(47,617 posts)
1. They just want a fight
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:06 PM
Dec 2020

They don't really seem to care who they are fighting. They are fixated with violence and want an excuse to start a war.

Irish_Dem

(47,462 posts)
2. If they want to fight a war, join the military. Oh wait, they are really cowards at heart.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:09 PM
Dec 2020

And probably don't meet recruitment standards.

PatSeg

(47,617 posts)
13. Oh yes
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:09 PM
Dec 2020

That dawned on me as well, but the military would require that they abide by their regulations and they wouldn't have unrestrained access to the assault rifles that they seem to love so much. Like drunks in a neighborhood tavern, they just want to fight for the sake of fighting. They've probably watched too many action movies and imagine themselves as the bigger-than-life antihero.

Irish_Dem

(47,462 posts)
17. A person used to have to meet weight requirements and have a high school diploma.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

Not sure if that is the case any more.
These guys wouldn't make those requirements.

Yes they are living in a fantasy world.

Irish_Dem

(47,462 posts)
22. Planning to capture and kill a female US governor is real bravery isn't it?
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 03:36 PM
Dec 2020

They are show offs and the military would clap down on them in a minute.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
24. No. They want to bully. Because they are afraid to fight.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 03:43 PM
Dec 2020

The absolute worst thing to do with a bully is to fear them.

The absolute best thing to do is challenge them in public.

TheBlackAdder

(28,222 posts)
3. That's why there is not ONE Libertarian state. Two tried, eventually they all turned on each other.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:10 PM
Dec 2020

.

Libertarianism is to be self-affecting, only caring about themselves. If others benefit from their actions, it's more by chance than planned. Libertarians are also the biggest takers of socialist programs, seeing what they get as deserved and what they cannot take advantage of as some form of tax they are somehow paying. They plug into as many programs as they can and resent programs that they cannot leverage to their benefit, and those people who can benefit from them.

Eventually, there has to be a leader, and sooner or later they will all consume one another, as resentment grows about being told what to do as a community member because it infringes on their rights or imposes a tax levy.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #3)

PatSeg

(47,617 posts)
15. I've encountered so many people like that
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:17 PM
Dec 2020

They hate government and the restrictions government imposes on their precious liberty. However, they accept government assistance like unemployment, food stamps, or disability easily, because for some inexplicable reason THEY are entitled, but those people over there are lazy moochers.

In the end, it really never was about government. It was about selfishness and greed. They want what they want when they want it, but they aren't willing to share it with anyone else.

PatSeg

(47,617 posts)
16. I've encountered so many people like that
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 02:17 PM
Dec 2020

They hate government and the restrictions government imposes on their precious liberty. However, they accept government assistance like unemployment, food stamps, or disability easily, because for some inexplicable reason THEY are entitled, but those people over there are lazy moochers.

In the end, it really never was about government. It was about selfishness and greed. They want what they want when they want it, but they aren't willing to share it with anyone else.

chia

(2,244 posts)
5. The Authoritarians
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:14 PM
Dec 2020

From psychologist Bob Altemeyer who created the right-wing authoritarianism scale:

https://theauthoritarians.org


"... remember that the premise behind “Posse” runs right down Main Street in the authoritarian aggression mind-set. When the authorities say, “Go get ‘em,” the high RWAs saddle up.

Who can ‘em be? Nearly everybody, it turns out. I started with a proposition to outlaw Communists and found authoritarian followers would be relatively likely to join that posse. Ditto for persecuting homosexuals, and ditto for religious cults, “radicals” and journalists the government did not like. So I tried to organize a posse that liberals would join, to go after the Ku Klux Klan. But high RWAs crowded out everyone else for that job too. Then I offered as targets the very right-wing Canadian Social Credit Party, the Confederation of Regions Party, and the mainstream Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. These were the parties of choice for most authoritarian followers at the time, yet high RWAs proved more willing to persecute even the movements they liked than did others.

Finally, just to take this to its ludicrous extreme, I asked for reactions to a “law to eliminate right-wing authoritarians.” (I told the subjects that right-wing authoritarians are people who are so submissive to authority, so aggressive in the name of authority, and so conventional that they may pose a threat to democratic rule.) RWA scale scores did not connect as solidly with joining this posse as they had in the other cases. Surely some of the high RWAs realized that if they supported this law, they were being the very people whom the law would persecute, and the posse should therefore put itself in jail. But not all of them realized this, for authoritarian followers still favored, more than others did, a law to persecute themselves. You can almost hear the circuits clanking shut in their brains: “If the government says these people are dangerous, then they’ve got to be stopped.”

chia

(2,244 posts)
21. You're welcome. The ebook is free from the site, and even though it was written pre-Trump,
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 03:34 PM
Dec 2020

it goes a long way in explaining the MAGA mindset.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
6. Trump leaving is creating a vacuum of epic proportions.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:19 PM
Dec 2020

Trump provided daily comfort to millions of pissed off Americans. Trump recognized and nurtured the anger and frustration of Middle Americans and deflected that anger onto Democrats.

Republicans exploit the pride of hard working people who don’t want to ask for help. These people are the ones they target because they can be trained to strike out at Liberals who Republicans say are lazy and take their hard-earned money.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
12. They are the abusive jerks, liars, and bullies of the world.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:50 PM
Dec 2020

And Trump and social media are exploiting and abusing their extremely deep, dark side.

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