Guys, it was a handkerchief.

[Chichiri]

You can see him pick it up and wipe his face with it towards the end of the debate. Let's kill this he-cheated meme quickly, because they're laughing at us right now. Heaven knows we have plenty of ammunition against Robme from the debate.

[hlthe2b]

1. I suspect it was a handkerchief on top of the notes... i.e., BOTH

[randome]

2. It was a pair of magic underdrawers!

Is 'magic' mentioned in the debate rules?

[MADem]

3. Who is "they" and how do YOU know this?

Hide thread is your friend. You have no need to be so concerned, ya know....

[gcomeau]

8. Video is "they".

We have WAY better things to talk about today. 7.8%. That should be the *only* story getting driven by everyone.

I got my heart rate up at the first video too, but it's a non starter and pursuing it just makes us look desperate when there is NO reason to be.

[awake]

19. Mitt keeps trying to wipe the smirk off his face

[onecent]

64. he trying to wipe the cocaine he sniffed...cuz his upper lip was red ALL NIGHT n/t

[Kurovski]

99. lol

no Nixon-Lip for ol Mitty, no siree.

Well, thant hankie sure seemed to make a mighty plunk on the lecturn.

[jberryhill]

27. It's infused with the scent of money

Really gets him going. Ann loves it when he gets a snort o that.

[KurtNYC]

37. LOL!

Love it.

Covers up the scent of peasants too.

[MADem]

43. That looks smaller and softer than the thing he threw down on the dais.

Sure he didn't pull his notes out of that hanky well before he used it? Sure he didn't have notes pencilled into the inner folds of that bit of folded cloth?

I think most people can walk and chew gum at the same time. If 'you' don't want to talk about this, by all means, don't--HIDE THREAD is your dear friend. However, I don't recall you being elected as Group Leader, so I really think you're a bit out of line telling us, in didactic fashion, what the "only" story getting driven should be, or what "we" are allowed to talk about.

So, sorry--your video is not proof positive in my book. I'd like to see more video, for example, from the rear cameras if there is footage available, but I don't think we HAVE to put this away.

If anything and if it even existed, his cheat sheet probably had 47 percent zingers on it that he was never able to use.

[gcomeau]

50. First...

...there is no way you're going to make that argument convincingly with the quality of the video available.

Second, do you have any appreciation of how much Romney's campaign would LOVE to spend the next couple days talking about how "Obama's desperate supporters are trying to launch a conspiracy theory about Romney's hanky to distract from his debate performance!!!!" instead of talking about 7.8%? It would be their wet dream.

Really, let it go. Even if it WAS notes hidden inside or under a hanky let it go ANYWAY. It's a losing discussion to have.

[MADem]

59. Stop playing the "oooooooh nooooo Mister Bill" game--I am not buying it.

Understand this--I am not AFRAID of "Romney's campaign." They can kiss my big hairy ass. If "they" want to "LOVE" spending the next few days talking about Obama's supporters...LET THEM.

Do you actually live your life in fear of what others might say or do? Please.

This is a theory, it's amusing to explore it. If they get all wrapped around the axle over people discussing it....well, where there is smoke, could there be fire?


So really...maybe YOU are the one who needs to "let it go." Like I said, HIDE THREAD is your friend. Stop trying to net-nanny people--it's an unbecoming trait, and it inevitably invites pushback. You stick to your own knitting now, and if this bothers you, hit that TRASH THREAD button and move on smartly, but do stop telling others what they are "allowed" to talk about.

[2pooped2pop]

82. well said

very well said.

[madokie]

93. +1

[Kurovski]

100. +1

[goclark]

103. MADdem you nailed it

Wasn't GW wired?

Don' recall anyone suggesting it until AFTER it happened and it was too late.

Right?

The photos that I saw here at DU did not appear to be photoshopped but I don't know

Anyway - we are here to discuss possibilities and today's images are so much easier to capture.

One thing for sure ~ Rmoney will do anything - legal or illegal to be President!

Where is the video that I saw here- thin it wa in the Media thread

[kiranon]

53. Hankies do not bounce but a transmitting device might.

Another discussion on the board claims to hear someone saying things to Mitt before Mitt answers a question about Reagan/taxes. Perhaps Mitt could appear so confident because he knew he would be fed the information for any response he needed help on. Let the conspiracy theories go forth. Looking forward to Debate #2. Perhaps they need to use see through podiums.

[MADem]

58. That was four years ago, though, not this debate. I like lucite podia, actually. NT

[patrice]

77. Use softens fabric. Folding it would be normal. & DISPLAYING it could be innoculation. nt

[MADem]

81. If it was pressed, though--it would show wrinkles. I'm not seeing any.

Gotta wonder if he didn't have some papers up in there...!

[sabrina 1]

67. I wonder what was written on the handerchief? Much better way to smuggle in talking points,

scribbled on a handerchief.

[MADem]

83. Then fold it four times and blow your nose with it or wipe off your grime, and hand it to your kid!

Probably had all those bogus numbers he was tossing out!

[2pooped2pop]

80. I think we can handle the 7.8 and speculation on whether

someone who wants to have the trust of the American people just cheated during the national debate.

I'm pretty sure we don't need you to tell us which is the only story we are allowed to have opinions on.

Makes us look desperate? People on a forum are just suppose to continue to shut the fuck up and sit down? I don't think so. We will discuss this until we get the video we need to determine the truth.

A non starter? It already started. The fact the the Rmoney camp has had to come out and defend themselves against possible cheating has already hurt him even if it is determined to be innocent. It's a win/win.

[gcomeau]

90. Listen...

1. One person expressing their opinion to others on a discussion forum is not the equivalent of one person telling another group of people they AREN'T ALLOWED to have an opinion. I'm not telling you that any more than you're telling me that by disagreeing with ME in that response. Understand?

2. YES, make us look desperate. Just like the idiots yelling about the unemployment numbers being cooked make the other side look desperate. And no, I'm not saying the two claims are equivalent, theirs is clearly more crazy, but that's beside the point. The optics are the optics. In the view of the majority of the country people yelling and screaming about Romney cheating in the debate when they have a ridiculously easy response you can't knock down sounds like nothing except desperation. And it inflates the impression in their minds that there is a reason for you to BE desperate.

3. Yes, a non starter. It's already dead. The Romney campaign didn't have to "come out and defend themselves" and this hasn't harmed them. A single "It was a hanky" response to a question is not being on the defensive and that effectively killed the entire story. If you think otherwise you're being delusional.

4. Until you get the video you need to determine the truth??? What are you going to do, travel back in time and place additional cameras with high resolution imagery of the surface of Rowney's podium? What the hell are you expecting is suddenly going to show up? The footage they're withholding from the invisible cameraman who was standing over Romney's shoulder through the whole debate?



Bottom line, I'm not a fan of the "as long as it's something our side likes we support it beyond all reason" line of thinking. I am firmly in the "police your own side" camp. And on this issue some people on our side needed pushback, so I'm pushing. Don't like it? Let me slip into your shoes for a second....

"You can't tell me what I'm allowed to have an opinion on!" (See how annoying that is?)

[2pooped2pop]

92. Listen and understand?

I don't think you can bully me. You said in your post that the "only" thing we need to pay attention too is that which you want us too. I say fuck that. Oh, and like you said. Understand?

Makes us look desperate? No one is trying to say that Rmoney cheating is the reason Obama did not perform in the way we would have liked. We are just saying, " hey did that mother fucker Mitt cheat?" And we would be saying that even if Obama had come out and cleaned his clock. For people to freely discuss this or whatever we want is not anyone else's business so I am not afraid of how it might make us look. We do not hold office. We are merely speculating. It's harmless.

The Rmoney camp has come out to defend it. Period.

Yes, we want more video. There is some that is obscured by the cspan blue. It can be removed. There may be additional footage that we are not privy too. There may be advanced ways of highlighting what we are seeing. Until then, we can continue all we want and we are not hurting a damned thing. So police your own side where your own side resides. You may not police me.

[Waiting For Everyman]

94. If you think you're going to "police" DUers, you're in for a surprise.

Nobody has filed any criminal charges. They are looking into something that is damned interesting -- is that a problem for you?

If so, .

[gcomeau]

109. Read first, respond second.

Helpful advice for any occasion. I specifically said I wasn't doing that. Pushback is not "policing", it's the expression of a countering argument. Or were you under the impression we don't do *that* on DU?

[Zoeisright]

4. Wrong. He cheated and it's been proven.

Nobody is "laughing at us" right now. CBS has picked it up.

[Chichiri]

25. What they picked up is an opinion piece by a Dem strategist.

All the affiliates are running the same thing.

[JoePhilly]

5. But putting a Hanky on the Podium is not part of Mitt's Ritual ... Here's what Ann has to say ...

Read this, its short. Mitt has a pre-debate ritual, and Ann describes it ... no hanky gets mentioned.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/news/2012/10/03/ann-romney-reveals-mitts-debate-ritual/

[polichick]

6. Where does he wipe his face with it - please post.

[liberal N proud]

7. Handkerchief bounce when they land on hard surfaces?

Damn stiff piece of cloth.

[BlueCaliDem]

12. Too much starch! That's what it was.

Honestly, it looks as if he had a cheat-sheet under the handkerchief, as stiff as it was.

[Myrina]

24. BINGO

You know rich elitist frat boy fucks like Mitt are the masters of 'how to cheat on exams' ... and I'm sure he was chuckling under his breath when he made the overt 'nose wipe' with it after it served its purpose of covering up his notes ....

[BlueCaliDem]

95. The overt nose-wipe was just to "prove" it was a handkerchief.

It was a helluva lot flimsy when he wiped his nose, wasn't it?

The Liar just can't help himself.

[RoccoR5955]

48. Maybe Magic Handkerchiefs do! n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

9. "They" are certainly my chief concern

I don't think I could bear it if I knew "they" were laughing at me. Does that mean I've lost the respect of "Them"? What a drag.

[Indpndnt]

10. It was a paper AND a handkerchief.

All the starch in the world wouldn't make a handkerchief that stiff. Even stiffer than Willard - and that's hard to do!

But, hey, call all those TV news shows that have already reported on this. They'll be so relieved to hear it.

[tishaLA]

18. OMG we've reached Faye Dunaway in Chinatown territory

"She's my sister" (slap)

"she's my daughter" (slap)

"my sister!" (slap)

"my daughter!" (slap)

"she's my sister AND my daughter!"

[2pooped2pop]

28. it could very well be the cheat notes wrapped in the hankie

Have you looked at all the material yet? It certainly shows curious behavior and we have the right to know the truth about it.

Perhaps the media can provide other camera angles that will prove it is just a hankie and perhaps they will be able to explain away all of the seemingly strange behavior. And perhaps they won't because it would show it to be a cheat sheet.

We just want to know the truth. There is nothing wrong with that.

[Indpndnt]

36. Lol! Look at the tape.

Or did you think he was going to pull out two things from his pocket when he could wrap one in the other?

But, thank GAWD, he sent his son back to the podium to rescue that orphaned hanky he left there! Yeah, because he loves that hanky so, so much and they just don't sell them anymore.

[gkhouston]

72. LOL, I was thinking of the old SNL fake commercial -- "It's a dessert topping AND a floor wax." n/t

[lumpy]

91. It looked like 2 items were put on the podium- notice when he starts placing them.

n

[Ghost in the Machine]

11. No, it wasn't... but thanks anyways... n/t

[siligut]

13. It is stiff when he hands it to his son

Maybe Mitt had both a cheat-sheet and handkerchief, but what he handed to his son was not a tissue or cloth, it was stiff, like folded paper.

[hifiguy]

32. +1 nt

[randome]

35. His sons treasure his nasal leakage! They have a collection at home!

[siligut]

55. Blech or lol

[Native]

56. The hanky was thrown on the lectern. The sheets of paper provided by the commission for him to

take notes on is what he picked up and folded at the end of the debate. Whether he had additional notes or note cards within the hanky is another matter.

[2pooped2pop]

85. look at the up close pics

It shows the paper he is looking at has folds in it. The paper they put on the podium was flat. It also appears to have writing on it. Did he write on his hankie then?

Watch him fumble at the end. He is hiding something within that paper. Watch it. It's more than just his note paper they gave him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. Rough draft of his concession speech.

It's OK.

[Ikonoklast]

15. Funny, no one seems to be laughing.

The media certainly isn't, they've picked up on this.

Funny where Romney finds his support.

That makes me laugh.

[Botany]

16. then why did Mitt work so hard to hide it?

If it was just a hanky he would have pulled it out and put it down and not
waited until the lectern blocked the view of what he was doing.

[dkf]

17. One of the shows had him wiping off sweat on his upper lip.

They were amused that he tried to surreptitiously wipe it off.

[siligut]

20. Derision is SOP for cheaters

They use it to deter truth seekers. Humiliation, shame, they know abuse can work to quiet thoughtful people and have no qualms about using it.

He who laughs last, laughs loudest. Double your efforts knowing you have hit a nerve.

[2pooped2pop]

29. bingo

[BumRushDaShow]

21. What men keep their hankerchiefs out of their pocket

when not using it?

[Kurovski]

106. Fops from the 17th Century.

And hobos with their bindles.

Amd that's it.

[whistler162]

107. A guy named Loius Armstrong used to!

kept it in his hand between uses!

[russspeakeasy]

22. What a stupid post.

[2pooped2pop]

23. that's not just a hankie

He unfolded whatever he threw to the podium. His hankie was folded when he used it.

Watch the video at the end where he stashes whatever under the paper he was given to take notes, then retrieves it later. That's not a hankie in the middle of those papers.

We are not Obama. We can speculate when we see this kind of shit. I don't care if someone is laughing at us. That excuse is used all too often to not follow up on the gross amount of crap thrown to us by the gop.

We just want them to provide other videos that show what we need to see. Nothing wrong with that.

[BarackTheVote]

26. Inclined to disagree with the OP

If you watch the tape, his movement of reaching into his pocket and tossing what he retrieves onto the podium looks unnatural and surreptitious. Clearly, he's trying to hide what he's getting from Lerher and the audience. Who keeps a handkerchief in their front pant pocket when they're wearing a jacket? And for that matter, why puts it on the podium first thing? Also, I never saw him write down anything during the debate, but he kept glancing down like he was consulting notes... well, notes have to come from somewhere and if they weren't written there, they were written beforehand.

[hifiguy]

30. It's stiff as a board.

There may have been a hanky there, but the slo-mo shows there was something more underneath it.

[MFM008]

101. I believe you are right

he had both, he knew people would see it so he threw a hankie out to. He is a cheater and a liar end of story.

[Capt. Obvious]

31. Clothers

[porphyrian]

33. Romney wrote notes on his handkerchief? That's a sinister way to cheat. n/t

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. Is a handkerchief allowed?

Notes are usually written on paper but I imagine they can be written on cloth as well. My impression was that nothing could be brought to the debate. If this were a college law school exam, you couldn't whip out anything at your desk, not even a piece of cloth.

[tinrobot]

38. So, he admits he overheats and has perspiration issues.

Not what we want in a President.

[Generic Other]

39. Who hands a used hanky to his son?

Isn't that what pockets are for? Apparently the cheat sheet was harder to surreptitiously retrieve after sneaking the notes onto the lectern. I am a teacher. If I saw what he did in my class, someone would be failing the test and visiting the dean. Looks like crib notes to me.

Rules are rules and he broke them.

[joeybee12]

40. Linen or cotton doesn't bounce when dropped...

Paper will.

[aletier_v]

41. Except it turned into paper after the debate, when Mitt walked back to collect "the evidence"

[NCTraveler]

42. At this point some are grasping at straws.

It is hard for some to believe that things went the way they did without some kind of shenanigans.

[2pooped2pop]

88. look at the video

look at the close ups. We are not grasping at straws. We are discussing some curious behavior that could prove yet again what a slime ball we have trying to get in the White House.

I don't think anyone is too concerned with Mitt having all of his number facts written down allowing him to appear aware, but more so as just another reason that this man is the last person who should ever get near the White House.

If he cheated we want to know and it does not hurt anyone or anything for us to wonder and request facts by the way of the video that I am sure is out there.

[kestrel91316]

44. The hanky, if present, was used to conceal the paper.

[KurtNYC]

45. "the only thing that Romney takes is paper. Not a handkerchief. "

[div clas="excerpt"]...Romney then proceeds to unfold the item in front of him.

For those curious if it could have been some else, later video sheds some light on what Romney retrieves from his lectern.

After the Romney and Obama families chat post-debate the President walks off stage, leaving his notes behind for an aide, no doubt.

But not so for Romney. The Presidential challenger goes back to his lectern to retrieve his items. It is clear that the only thing that Romney takes is paper. Not a handkerchief. Not a white flag. Nothing but paper.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/upon-further-review-mitt-romney-may-have-cheated-to-win-the-debate/

[cr8tvlde]

49. The Hanky is a meme now ... everyone agrees you don't hand a hanky to your son and it doesn't

work to stack papers, a la Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, with a hanky in the midst. Now, if someone will show a video of him putting it back in his Front Pocket, it still wouldn't cut it. You can write on a hanky...easily.

I'm with the teacher upthread. Cheating...Grade: 0 But then Sarah's crib notes were on her hand, and Shrub had a 2-way radio, so Mitt sneaks in notes. Ho Hum.

Please, Stephen, do an intro with a hanky in your notes. LOL

[KurtNYC]

65. It was Hanky Panky !

[cr8tvlde]

74. And unfortunately I checked in at Comedy Central, and they have dubbed it a Conspiracy Theory

Oh, well.

[global1]

46. Is There A Video Available Of The Retrieval And Handing To His Son After The Debate?...

If so - could somebody post it here?

[lunatica]

57. It's the same video only it's at the very end after Obama and Michelle leave

[riverwalker]

89. it's in the other threads n/t

[Stuart G]

47. I've thought about this a few minutes..it doesn't matter..not really

cause he cheats on all kinds of stuff more important...proven.
.like his taxes, (not showing them)
..like his dishonest views on his plans
..like so on, and so on..
.This handerchief/cheat sheet isn't worth it....(and I was originally a happy he got caught cheating person..but it doesn't matter..
he is an all around dishonest person...that is enuff)

[jsmirman]

51. So he carried his handkerchief in his pants pocket to the debate

instead of in his breast pocket.

An OCD rich guy.

Not a chance.

Show me video that shows he uses that handkerchief again after he drops it on the podium and you'll have something. I'll bet he doesn't. That gif is from right before closing statements, just so you know.

Because the thing he tosses on the podium at the beginning of the debate comes from his pants pocket.

Mitt carrying a handkerchief in his pants pocket - no f'n way.

[progressivebydesign]

52. the notes at the end were DIFFERENT than the square at the beginning. You're all getting confused.

At the end, he had his son retrieve the things he wrote on the 8 x11 paper they gave him. Standard stuff. If it had been the same thing as in the beginning, he would have folded it down to the same size to fit in his pocket. No one is going to leave the debate notes on the podium when they're done.. that would be foolish.

Now the thing he takes OUT of his pocket is certainly hankie sized, and could have very well had other things inside of it. But we gotta stop confusing the two. 1) small square object if front pocket. 2) 8 x 11 stiff papers that were only folded LENGTHWISE so that they didn't fit in his jacket.

Really. .this is NOT something we should be focusing on. It's not a big deal because it makes us look stupid. It looked like a hankie, but I also think that it could have contained index cards as well. BUt.. again. It's not that big of a deal, his crackhead performance and lies were.

[aletier_v]

54. You obviously didn't watch the video

Mitt's sons retrieve nothing.

MITT retrieves the papers, goofs with them because they won't fit in his coat pockets, then BOTH of his sons reach out simultaneously to take the papers, as Ann's face blanches.

He fucking cheated.

[lunatica]

60. His son didn't retrieve anything. He did and tried to put it in both breast pockets

Then he handed it to his son who, without looking at it put it in his breast pocket.

What video did you watch? Or are you just making it all up?

[justiceischeap]

61. I'll bite... who says notes can't be written on a handkerchief? nt

[Bake]

62. I *ahem* used to know people who wrote their crib sheets on pieces of gum ...

If they were in danger of getting caught, pop the gum in their mouth, etc.



Bake

[Nye Bevan]

63. It's possible to write notes on a white hankerchief.

And then later attempt to avoid suspicion by blowing your nose into it.

[yellowcanine]

71. Heh. I had the same thought. But I used to teach high school.

So I am a naturally suspicious person when it comes to innovative ways to cheat. I am glad I got out of the business before cell phones became common.

[NightOwwl]

66. Agreed.

You don't need a cheat sheet to lie your ass off.

We just excoriated Drudge/Hannity etc over a highly hyped piece of nothing video. No need for us to mimic their behavior.

[Pithlet]

68. I think it's odd how he sneakily threw it on the podium on the downlow

right as he walks up. People usually keep handkerchiefs in their pockets till they need them. That's awfully suspicious to me.

[cr8tvlde]

69. I think we need Stephen Colbert to help us out. Show us how to do a stack of papers with a hanky

concealed inside.

That will be fodder for Comedy Central laughing.

Democrats are so sensitive and caring and forgiving and "fair", but now is not the time. They just got us on the "fact" that Obama so feared the "angry black man" meme, that he looked down and was deferrent to the dominant white man. Are you OK with being told your president was a deferring black man? Back down? Play nice? WTF good are we with that insanity.

And may I add that they are likely laughing at our inner outrage with each other. They know what happened. One thing they are not, is dumb.

[gkhouston]

73. Anybody who can pop a bunny out of a paint can should be able to do this easily. n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

70. I really really don't care.

Did Mitt cheat or not? It's a question of Mitt's character and I have already determined everything I need to know of his character. He lies and doesn't blush :blink-blink: He will argue both sides of any given issue if there is a single personal advantage to be had. He does not give *ONE* whit about our country or her ordinary citizens. He lives, thinks, plans and invests in a global market with global interests. America is just one more commodity to render asunder, bury in debt and auction whatever is leftover to the highest bidder. He hides his income tax returns, he promises the moon but has NO clue how to deliver. Doesn't matter. He never intended to deliver.. Do I think it *might* have been a cheat sheet? Damn straight.

[Buns_of_Fire]

75. He had one of his servants embroider the notes on the hankie in 8-point Times New Roman.

Combined with a pair of pinhole cameras (one up each nostril), and problem solved!

Well, okay, that or he was just wiping his mouth after downing a quick baby while the TV cameras were on the President.

That's what I heard. I don't want to spread any false rumors or anything.

[patrice]

78. You can write on silk quite nicely, especially some that has had a fabric treatment. nt

[patrice]

76. Yeah, Mormons are never "toastmasters", so they've never used handkercheifs in surreptitious ways &

they don't know that you can write on silk, especially silk with certain fabric finishes, like people have been doing for centuries.

[Coyotl]

79. It was a fold-up teleprompter, one invented special for the debate

by aliens in Area 51

We should be worried about Mitt killing off Big Bird

[Michigan Alum]

84. Here it is in close-up and slo-mo

[itsrobert]

87. Why would he go to this sleight of hand to hide a handkerchief?

?

[sad sally]

86. So, was it a used hanky he tried to put in either of his inside suit pockets, then handed it to

son Tagg to carry for him?

[UTUSN]

96. That's O.K. if it was. Wingnuts send out discredited chain letters all the time

even if Snopes or whoever have them labeled them as false. It's not up to us to approve what wingnuts might ingest. Let them either do their own homework or let the thing live out its own life.

[lynne]

97. The first clue should have been when he pulled it out of his right front pocket -

- as no one would keep note cards there. They'd get bent if you sat down and would probably pinch and poke you. Were they actually notes, they would have come from most likely the inside breast jacket pocket or from a rear pocket. Not to mention that he actually used a handkerchief during the debate. If that wasn't the handkerchief, when did he pull the hanky out?

You're right, there's plenty of valid ammo to use against him. This conspiracy theory is just plain silly.

[nc4bo]

98. Was it or was it not? Perhaps if "Mitch" didn't have a public perception problem

the conclusion would be a complete no-brain, non-issue but since the character known as self-serving Mitt Romney has changed faces so many times, he is worthy of suspicion and not worthy of trust. What type of person hides their money in a Swiss Bank account, possibly took amnesty during the year it was offered, then refuses to release the only proof which could remove suspicion? I think we can all make conclusions on the reasons why.

Who runs their campaign on his business experience at a company whose function wasn't to provide jobs for the middle class but to make money for the CEO and shareholders by whatever means necessary, including utilizing outsourced, sweatshop labor?

He asks us to trust him.

This, and many other examples, IMHO, preclude him from serving in the high office he seeks. He can not be trusted.

Not our problem that some people are suspicious of Mitt's every word, action, policy idea, it's a Mitt problem. It's a Republican Party problem.

Peel back back Mitt's onion layers and there will be a rotten core inside. I don't care how hard the GOP worked to lay the foundation to build Mitt up, it's all built on sand.

[99th_Monkey]

102. It COULD have been BOTH, a hanky and some notes

or notes on back of hanky.

And then when Mitt wipes his brow w/ said hanky,
THAT is the cover-up. Just sayin'. Could be.

When someone is as deceptive and sinister as Rmoney is under
the spotlight, it is not foolhardy to inquire into such things.

[mother earth]

104. His lies were against his former stances, cheatsheets or not, he's a lying SOB whoring himself which

ever way the wind blows. Pity this fool, he's unprecedented in his ignorance, can his followers be so stupid to continue to support this ever changing blowhard? He's just filled to his ears with shit.

[grasswire]

105. we are left with two gaps of logic

1. Why would an innocuous action be done in a sneaky/surreptitious manner?


2. Why would a person hand a used handkerchief to a family member to get rid of it?


Those are the sticking points for me.

[Cherchez la Femme]

108. Sure, & Mittens doesn't lie

Against his religion, ya know...