Trump's Approval Rating Collapses

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Trump’s Approval Rating Collapses

December 28, 2020 at 9:50 am EST By Taegan Goddard 187 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/12/28/trumps-approval-collapses/

"SNIP.....

A new Gallup poll finds Congress’ job approval rating is at just 15%, the lowest of the 116th Congress, and President Trump’s job approval rating has fallen to 39% — down seven percentage points from before the election.

In contrast, nearly two-thirds of Americans approve of the way Joe Biden is handling his presidential transition.

.....SNIP"

[Blue Owl]

1. Even the bots have jumped ship now

[samsingh]

5. 39% for a murderer and traitor shows that 40% of the country is evil and hate America

[rurallib]

7. that is a very sobering thought

[paleotn]

12. That's an afirm.

Something to keep for future reference.

[Escurumbele]

25. A lot of it has to do with ignorance I think

Many republicans seem to be very fanatic, very little thinking behind political decisions.

I have a friend who has a masters degree, I am saying this to show that she is quite intelligent, she is very good at her job, but when it comes to politics she doesn't give it any thought. She once told me she didn't want to discuss politics, that she was a republican because her grandparents were republican, her parents were republican, so she was a republican and nothing would change that. We never spoke politics again. Great person, but politically ignorant.

[aggiesal]

38. I have a "friend" just like that. ...

Dated her for over a year.

She's very smart & entrepreneurial and very good at her job, but since her dad did some work for Ronnie Reagan, he tended to vote (R) so she votes (R).

She said she loved Pendejo45 and voted for Pendejo45 in 2016 because she felt that we needed a pResident to run the country like a business. I told her that government is not a business. Government does not have a product to sell, they supply services with the money we give them. She then said that Pendejo45 has done a fantastic job as pResident. I'd ask her to name one thing that Pendejo45 has accomplished. She said she doesn't want to talk politics.

We broke up and remained friends until she shared a racist post on her facebook page, claiming that she didn't like being called a racist. I wrote her that she lost all credibility when making that claim while sharing a racist post.
Not very smart on her part.

She locked me out and I haven't spoken to her since.

[ecstatic]

41. SMH. nt

[mnhtnbb]

43. She's not racist in her mind, just telling the truth.

I grew up in a Republican family, I know how they think and what they value. My brother is an MD PhD and Republican through and through. It's all about taxes for him.

[LuvNewcastle]

49. Yeah, doctors are usually big time Republicans.

They're in that higher bracket because they make more money and they just bitch about the taxes they have to pay, as if the rest of us never paid any taxes. When I was in the hospital for those long stretches this year I heard them talk politics all the time.

They have to pay malpractice insurance and some have student loans, I get that, but they don't think about the poor schlub out there making $50,000 a year and feeding a family of four and paying for health insurance, etc. I've never seen a doctor who didn't have a nice car and all the ones I know live by the golf courses or the water. Bitching about taxes. I'd be glad to pay taxes if I was making that kind of money!

[Walleye]

50. I've always said that complaining about taxes is the same as bragging about your income

[LuvNewcastle]

51. That's a good way to look at it.

[mnhtnbb]

58. Not all docs are Republicans.

Many pediatricians, psychiatrists, and family practitioners are less inclined to be Republicans. But, they aren't the ones making the big bucks.

Many docs are narcissists. And narcissists aren't inclined to be thinking about other people anyway. It's all about them. Some of them choose specialties based on how much money they can make and not needing to spend a lot of time with people. Think surgeons. Radiologists. Anesthesiologists. Lots of docs in this country are business people first, not healers practicing the art and science of medicine.

[MustLoveBeagles]

57. She did you a favor

[TryLogic]

48. Republican because parents and grandparents were?

Republicanism is essentially a type of religion. And Republican politicians use the same tactic - repetition of dogma. Followers must engage in thoughtless acceptance.

[StClone]

56. My Big Republican family

But once you see it from the outside, get some education, and exposed to all those groups they hate, their views are seen as provincial, racist, and stupid. I was lucky, I guess. My family is trapped in a rural area where ideas are inbred, stewed in hate radio, and isolated by barriers of fear and loathing.

[mountain grammy]

26. Yep

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. tRump Mini Me 40%.

[BadgerMom]

30. Exactly my reaction.

[Mendocino]

36. 46.9% still

thought he was worth voting for. Biden had 51.4%.

[Demovictory9]

22. Lol..yeah

[jaxexpat]

33. Aye, mutinous bots are a scurvy crew.

[marybourg]

2. It's always "falling", but it never gets any lower.

[essaynnc]

4. Yeah, I think Collapses is a strong word....

His approval has jumped back and forth between the same extremes for a couple years now, no lower than 38 and no higher than 50%. Alert me when less than a third of the county isn't hooting and hollering for this fascist, racist, hedonistic, unfeeling bag of shit! Thank you.

[SledDriver]

15. Agreed. "Collapse" is not "down to 39".

"Collapse" would be if it dropped down to 12%. This is more of an "is now at"...

[llashram]

37. that's what I hoped for

a 12 or even 10% approval rating would make me happy. His very small primal narcissistic ego and even smaller brain would fall in on itself and trump would disappear in a black hole never to be seen or heard from, ever again.

[uponit7771]

39. +1, Nixon and Hitler were mid 20s

[Botany]

3. I don't think that the polls were that off prior to the election and Trump/Rove cheated their ...

.... asses off to keep it as close as they did. I also don't get what Trump did to gain
11 million more voters from 2016. The fucker was bleeding support from the get go.

[kurtcagle]

13. Polls were not off

Trump "won" 47.5% of the vote, giving Biden a 5 point win. I've noticed that in those places where we had pre-voting and paper ballots, the results for local races were more or less consistent with the polls. Non-auditable touch screens had about a 2.5% bias for the Republicans, the same bias that's been in place since before 2000 when touch screens started to be used heavily. Those tend to be used most heavily in red states, and even the purple states have been moving away from them. My suspicion is that Trump likely gained about 3.5 million votes primarily in the red states, with voter suppression accounting for another 2.5 million lost by Biden. That puts Trump at around 44% of the vote, which is where he has been polling consistently since he was elected, and is much more in line with population growth. I have no doubt that if we'd had a one-day election on Nov 3rd, Trump would have likely eked out an electoral college win, while again losing the popular vote.

[Botany]

17. For me the ? is what did Trump ever do to grow his base?

And were all those cases of people who said they voted for Trump in 2016 but would not
vote for him in 2020 lying.

And yes ever since (and even before) they passed HAVA* you can see a red shift in the vote
that did not does not match the demographic shifts and societal wants and needs.


* Help America Vote Act.

Jennifer Brunner's EVEREST study on electronic voting machines showed that they all have some kind of
electronic "back door" that allows people to look at and manipulate the data but not leave any fingerprints.

[judesedit]

20. I agree. Voting should be done on paper ballots and be hand counted.

[The Animator]

44. Ironically Trump's lies about vote rigging could backfire

Inadvertently lending bipartisan support to addressing legitimate concerns... lol

[RicROC]

59. something smells...

RE: Trump. How does a candidate with a 39% approval rating for 4 years in a row, get 47% of the vote?

RE: McConnell. How does a candidate with 13% approval rating get 58% of the vote?


The very minimum I would expect the Dems to do is to demand of recount of the McConnell vs. McGrath race.

[Beartracks]

6. And don't forget, Americans, that Trump is brought to you by the Republican party.

Republicans are not separate from Trump. He is their poster boy.

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[Tommymac]

8. Polls are a Maskirova. Kabuki. Shit Show. Take your pick.

They exist to make money to keep the 'horserace' and bothsiderism alive and kicking on the MSM.

The media could give a fuck if they are accurate as long as they cna drive ratings and provide a circus act for the unwashed.

[lambchopp59]

9. That's still 39 percent too high

Don't tell me, let me guess. That's the percentage who now have shut off Fox for more ignorant brainwashing funnels.

[List left]

10. Some people have a different definition of collapse than I do.

[Orange Buffoon]

11. He's been at 39 before. He needs to break new territory and go to 29.

[Tiger8]

14. Other president's lowest approvals were at....

43 G. W. Bush 25 (2008-10-05, 2008-10-12, 2008-11-02)

42 Clinton 37 (1993-06-06)

41 G. H. W. Bush 29 (1992-08-02, 1992-10-13)

40 Reagan 35 (1983-01-31)

WTF....

I'm NOOOOO fan of Reagan or either Bush, but I'll take any of them on their worst day over Trump on his best day.

[genxlib]

31. I think it says a lot about RW media

The constant propaganda to the right wing has created a firewall against losing too much support.

They create an alternate reality where...

a) nothing is wrong (ie virus is a hoax, no Russia influence etc.)
b) if acknowledged at all, it is somehow Democrats fault.

[Tiger8]

40. Yes, I think that's exactly what's happening...plus social media, Russian hackers, etc

I think Fox News, Limbaugh, Infowars circle jerk is bolder with the propaganda they keep repeating.....and now social media amplifies those messages, especially with the Russian bot profiles.

[JonLP24]

42. Bush on his worst day is still very bad

Torture, Patriot Act, mass surveillance, wars, etc

I also blame Bush for Trump.

[Evolve Dammit]

46. "I also blame Bush for Trump." Me too. Add militarization of police, "Constitution a Goddam piece of

paper", the "unitary executive", "we create our own reality," "deficits don't matter", attacking the wrong country, etc. etc.

[Evolve Dammit]

47. "I also blame Bush for Trump." Me too. Add militarization of police, "Constitution a Goddam piece of

paper", the "unitary executive", "we create our own reality," "deficits don't matter", attacking the wrong country, etc. etc.

[BamaRefugee]

16. "Collapses" or just finally pollsters are posting the true numbers?

[jb5150]

18. Trump's approval rating is dropping faster ...

.. than Melania's clothes at a photo shoot.

[qazplm135]

19. so basically he retains his base

but lost the 8 percent or so who thought he was going to win and glommed on, or thought he was better than Biden.

[world wide wally]

21. If Congress is at 15%...

i wonder if Georgia people know that Perdue and Loeffler are members of the existing Congress.

[ProfessorGAC]

32. That's A Specious Number

Always has been. It's way easier to find no good side to a entity compared to a person.
A guy I went to Stat school with worked for Pew.
The approval of each member of congress was 50-70%. Aggregated, approval ratings were around 55%. (Admittedly, this was 15 years ago.)
So, 55% of people approve of THEIR OWN congress people but only 15% approve of them as a whole.
There is an underlying cause in that discrepancy that doesn't make for meaningful analysis.

[jaxexpat]

34. Probably right. Hard to find meaningfulness in polls.

I think it's "the guy I voted for is alright but those other guys screw it all up" citizen who's always polled. And he's always right, too.

[backscatter712]

45. Yep. People like their own Congresscritters, no matter how crooked...

...but find Congress as a whole about as appealing as a scorching case of herpes.

[skypilot]

23. 39% is still too damn high.

Every time I see a story about Trump's plummeting approval rating I expect to read that he is down to something like 25%. The reported number is always around 38-40%. Too fucking high.

[yaesu]

24. That is getting pretty close to Congresses approval rating which is historically slightly above

that of nail fungus.

[Warpy]

28. Still too high

but I guess his bad behavior when he no longer has the cover of his DC staff will drop it down to a Nixonian 22-25%

[jaxexpat]

35. His most fervent supporters like him BECAUSE of his bad behavior.

For the general public, that's his best selling point. That "car-wreck appeal" is what's kept his stump dumb and paint dryingly boring ass in the media lime-light for over 40 years.

[ProfessorGAC]

29. Questionable Basis

If they had the idiot at 46% before the election, they must have been the only ones.
I just looked at 538, at the 4 year chart. October 23, the aggregated approval was 42.6%.
It's 42.7% now.
IOW: the broader data set shows he was never that high, & support hasn't waned.

Edited to add link:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[BobTheSubgenius]

52. Once again, a reminder of the question that has nagged at me for what seems like forever.

How is his approval rating 39% and not 9? His popularity should be hovering around that of dentistry with no novocaine. At least as low as dung beetles, who at least have an ecological purpose.

[barbtries]

53. it's amazing

how high it is. i cannot get over that.

[Bucky]

54. This is Rupert Murdoch's doing

2½ decades of poisoning Americans' minds that's finally rendered it's effects. Dr Victor von Murdochstein has released his monster onto the world and not even he can stop it.

[barbtries]

55. yeah.

and trump has a cult of personality, people who will disavow fox news if they run afoul of Dear Leader.

naive me, still shocked that there are so many of them.