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Sedition (Original Post) Soph0571 Dec 2020 OP
Is there a cite for this? n/t sarge43 Dec 2020 #1
Here you go - one of many Soph0571 Dec 2020 #2
Thank you. sarge43 Dec 2020 #8
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #3
This shit cannot go unchecked or this country is in serious trouble. Lock him up. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #4
He called for him to be tried for inciting insurrection, not for sedition StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #5
Sedition is "inciting people to rebel" Wounded Bear Dec 2020 #10
That is the dictionary definition, not the legal definition StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #11
Yeah, progressoid Dec 2020 #6
this country is in serious trouble lookyhereyou Dec 2020 #7
Powell Knows Cosmo Blues Dec 2020 #9
They did that to Jack Reacher. Hotler Dec 2020 #12
Do it, do it, please do it Blue Owl Dec 2020 #13

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
8. Thank you.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 10:11 AM
Dec 2020

Yup. Any other service member publicly said that and they'd be flogged through the fleet.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. He called for him to be tried for inciting insurrection, not for sedition
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 09:14 AM
Dec 2020

Although many people are using the term, I was surprised to see this meme because I figured that Powell's chief of staff would understand the definition of sedition and know that, while engaging in reprehensible behavior, Flynn has not committed sedition. It turns out he didn't actually say that.

He called for Flynn to be court-martialed for incitement to insurrection, a different crime from sedition.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
10. Sedition is "inciting people to rebel"
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 11:37 AM
Dec 2020

se·di·tion
/səˈdiSH(ə n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: sedition; plural noun: seditions

conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=sedition+definition

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
11. That is the dictionary definition, not the legal definition
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:05 PM
Dec 2020

And it is the legal definition that matters here where we are talking about someone being charged with a crime.

Under federal law, sedition has a very specific definition, one that doesn't apply to Flynn. It is a conspiracy to overthrow the government by force or to use force to prevent the execution of a law. 18 U.S.C. § 2384 Flynn has not engaged in force or called for the use of force, so he has not engaged in a seditious conspiracy as defined by statute.

Wilkinson clearly knows this and that's why he did not call for Flynn to be prosecuted for sedition. Instead, he said he should be court-martialed for "incitement to insurrection" under 18 U.S. Code § 2383, which is a different crime.

18 U.S. Code § 2383. Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.


lookyhereyou

(140 posts)
7. this country is in serious trouble
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 10:07 AM
Dec 2020

Colin Powell knows what evil lurks in the shadows.
YELLOWCAKE at the UN (dick chain )
start with flynn and go through the Entire
LYING CHEATING regime all the way to the top.
bring the light : right the ship of state.
government for the People

Cosmo Blues

(2,480 posts)
9. Powell Knows
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 11:33 AM
Dec 2020

The yellow cake from Niger that he professed Saddam had acquired was bad intelligence, the lone intelligence source known as curveball lied for Dick Cheney and whatever Dick Cheney promised him, no foreign intelligence agencies believed or confirmed that. And Ambassador Wilson debunked the story

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