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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:32 PM Dec 2020

Trump ends Obama's 12-year run as most admired man: Gallup

President Trump has ended former President Obama's 12-year run as the most admired man in America, edging out his predecessor in the annual Gallup survey released Tuesday. Eighteen percent of the survey's respondents named Trump as their most admired man, compared to 15 percent who named Obama and 6 percent who named President-elect Joe Biden. Three percent named National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, while 2 percent chose Pope Francis.

Rounding out the top 10 were Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and the Dalai Lama, all of whom received 1 percent.

The sitting U.S. president has been named the pollster’s most-admired man in 60 out of 74 years, including all eight years of Obama’s presidency and every year of George W. Bush’s presidency except for 2008. Trump had finished second to Obama in 2017 and 2018.

The record holder for appearances in the survey's top 10 is the late Rev. Billy Graham, who made the list 61 times before his 2018 death. Former President Carter, who has appeared on the list 29 times, is the most-represented living person.

Pollsters surveyed 1,018 adults from Dec. 1 to 17. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Twenty-one percent of respondents offered no response, while 11 percent named a friend or relative as their most admired.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/531906-trump-ends-obamas-12-year-run-as-most-admired-man-gallup

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Trump ends Obama's 12-year run as most admired man: Gallup (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 OP
Proud to be first - I call BULLSHIT. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2020 #1
Yup, someone's phoning in a favor to Fat Donnie Blue Owl Dec 2020 #40
Not really. It's just a misleading, poorly conceived, poll. Towlie Dec 2020 #51
Well, he only won with 18% of the vote Polybius Dec 2020 #54
🤢 TDale313 Dec 2020 #2
4% snowybirdie Dec 2020 #3
Codswollop irisblue Dec 2020 #4
MALARKEY! Cha Dec 2020 #61
It was probably rownesheck Dec 2020 #5
Of Trump supporters? LisaL Dec 2020 #9
People who still have landlines rownesheck Dec 2020 #15
From the methodology: WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #31
Yes, because Gallup hasn't figured out that landlines aren't accurate. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #43
You did it, Trump! greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #6
I second the claim of utter and complete BULLSHIT! Greybnk48 Dec 2020 #7
There is no way I believe this. CatMor Dec 2020 #8
Sure DFW Dec 2020 #10
Bullshit Faux pas Dec 2020 #11
He's still a loser. BainsBane Dec 2020 #12
What kind of poll would ask for the "most admired man" and leave out women? Towlie Dec 2020 #13
Michelle Obama won again, followed by Kamala and then Melania catrose Dec 2020 #22
Gallup has a seperate poll for "Most Admired Woman". lapucelle Dec 2020 #25
I see. Well, did anyone consider what Gallup will do when we finally have our first woman president? Towlie Dec 2020 #39
Do you want them to include 'man' ... left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 #34
Yes, with "or" between those words. Better yet, just do a "most admired person" poll. Towlie Dec 2020 #48
And why the heck don't we have a most admired non-binary person poll? Bucky Dec 2020 #57
It's just like the Reagan phenomenon Blasphemer Dec 2020 #14
And he still only got 18%. Chellee Dec 2020 #19
Methodology makes it heavily dependent on news coverage Klaralven Dec 2020 #16
People in touch with reality were split wryter2000 Dec 2020 #17
Voter fraud! Harker Dec 2020 #18
People voted for a man responsible for nearly 350,000 deaths and 20 million infections malaise Dec 2020 #20
Not sure why you're saying "nearly" Bucky Dec 2020 #58
You are correct malaise Dec 2020 #62
Gross!!! Initech Dec 2020 #21
Oh bullshit!! Take that survey next year and get back Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #23
The real headline here is that former President Obama and President-elect Biden split the... Hugin Dec 2020 #24
Oh, 'thehill'... Never mind. n/t Hugin Dec 2020 #28
Attack the Hill? left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 #35
The Hill wrote the unnecessary misleading puff-piece headline. n/t Hugin Dec 2020 #38
Oh please ! left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 #65
All of this effort on your part proves what? Hugin Dec 2020 #66
Right treestar Dec 2020 #30
Actually, Gallup talked about the split prominently; it was The Hill that ignored it muriel_volestrangler Dec 2020 #41
So, I was correct to subsequently write it off on thehill. Hugin Dec 2020 #42
Yes you were.. & I'm going to Cha Dec 2020 #64
Bingo. Music Man Dec 2020 #52
I call for a re-count! LOL Miigwech Dec 2020 #26
So, 82% DO NOT admire him. GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #27
Obama and Biden split the vote. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2020 #29
beam me up scotty Blues Heron Dec 2020 #32
How much did the Con or his cronies pay to Gallup to publish garbage like this? onetexan Dec 2020 #33
Weird. I guess these type of polls don't really mean a hell of a lot. jalan48 Dec 2020 #36
Elon Musk? Trump? JonLP24 Dec 2020 #37
Ew. ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #44
Why are people going to conspiracy? It took 18% to "win." Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #45
Was this a Rassie poll? Gothmog Dec 2020 #46
Why mention a margin of error? Bracing us for an upset in the 'real' Most Admired Person vote? Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2020 #47
Not Borowitz? Totally Tunsie Dec 2020 #49
Despite Posts Above... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #50
Just the idea of Trump being admired True Dough Dec 2020 #53
um.... Biden syphoning votes off Obama does not make drumpf the most admired person in America Takket Dec 2020 #55
LOL -- the same day his approval ratings drop to 39% Bucky Dec 2020 #56
Lots of disbelief on this thread. Y'all realize, don't you, that Ron Green Dec 2020 #59
Anyone who admires Donald Dumbass needs their head examined. WyattKansas Dec 2020 #60
That's impossible lunatica Dec 2020 #63

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
51. Not really. It's just a misleading, poorly conceived, poll.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:43 PM
Dec 2020

 


In the simplest terms, if there are many good VIPs whom good people like the most, but one bad VIP whom the bad people like the most, the bad VIP will be the most admired person.

Polybius

(21,925 posts)
54. Well, he only won with 18% of the vote
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 02:47 PM
Dec 2020

30% of the country is batshit insane. I can see 18% of them picking Trump.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
15. People who still have landlines
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
Dec 2020

trend older. Lots of old people love trump. It's the same group of people who answer their cell phones when numbers they don't recognize call.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,976 posts)
31. From the methodology:
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:01 PM
Dec 2020
Interviews are conducted with respondents on landline telephones and cellular phones, with interviews conducted in Spanish for respondents who are primarily Spanish-speaking. Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 70% cell phone respondents and 30% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cell phone telephone numbers are selected using random digit dial methods. Gallup obtained sample for this study from Dynata. Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member has the next birthday.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
43. Yes, because Gallup hasn't figured out that landlines aren't accurate.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:29 PM
Dec 2020

This isn't some undergrad student doing a survey for a class. It's Gallup.

DFW

(60,240 posts)
10. Sure
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Dec 2020

I believe that like I believe Matt Gaetz will be awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature next year.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
13. What kind of poll would ask for the "most admired man" and leave out women?
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:40 PM
Dec 2020

 


Simply by asking the question that way, the pollsters reveal their misogynistic right-wing bias.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
39. I see. Well, did anyone consider what Gallup will do when we finally have our first woman president?
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:20 PM
Dec 2020

 


What will happen regarding the tread that "The sitting U.S. president has been named the pollster’s most-admired man in 60 out of 74 years, including all eight years of Obama’s presidency and every year of George W. Bush’s presidency except for 2008."

When a woman is elected president will it count against her if she isn't named the "most-admired man"?

Gallup needs to rethink this.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
48. Yes, with "or" between those words. Better yet, just do a "most admired person" poll.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:33 PM
Dec 2020

 


See my post above where I ask "... did anyone consider what Gallup will do when we finally have our first woman president?"

Blasphemer

(3,623 posts)
14. It's just like the Reagan phenomenon
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:40 PM
Dec 2020

He topped "best president" lists for years because all of the Republicans voted for him while Democrats split their vote. This is just more proof that the the GOP is Trump and they can't run from him.

Chellee

(2,300 posts)
19. And he still only got 18%.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:45 PM
Dec 2020

Also, 18+15+6+2=41. Did 59% of people name their Dad? Nobody else even got up to 1%?

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
16. Methodology makes it heavily dependent on news coverage
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
Dec 2020
First,
1. What man that you have heard or read about, living today in any part of the world, do you admire most?
And who is your second choice?
RECENT TREND: COMBINED FIRST AND SECOND CHOICES
(Ranked according to number of responses, 2020)


https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
17. People in touch with reality were split
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:42 PM
Dec 2020

Obama plus Biden beats Trump easily. Every single MAGAT voted for Trump.

Harker

(17,839 posts)
18. Voter fraud!
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:43 PM
Dec 2020

There's a book containing a conversation with H.H. The Dalai Lama on my kitchen table.

"The Art of the Deal", my arse.

malaise

(296,432 posts)
20. People voted for a man responsible for nearly 350,000 deaths and 20 million infections
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:47 PM
Dec 2020

Bullshit!

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
58. Not sure why you're saying "nearly"
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 02:58 PM
Dec 2020

That odometer is gonna flip before the week is out

Hugin

(37,861 posts)
24. The real headline here is that former President Obama and President-elect Biden split the...
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:51 PM
Dec 2020

'most admired man' at 21% leaving Trump far in the dust at a mere 18%.

I guess that impartial pollster Gallup doesn't see it that way.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
35. Attack the Hill?
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:15 PM
Dec 2020

For publishing a Gallup poll?

"Oh, the Hill."



Guessing the Gallup poll appeared in a dozen other sites.

Hugin

(37,861 posts)
66. All of this effort on your part proves what?
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:49 PM
Dec 2020

The Hill is a Republican propaganda conduit?

What?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,266 posts)
41. Actually, Gallup talked about the split prominently; it was The Hill that ignored it
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:24 PM
Dec 2020

Here's how Gallup's article starts:

Donald Trump, Michelle Obama Most Admired in 2020

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
18% name Trump as most admired man; Barack Obama places second at 15%
Few Republicans name anyone other than Trump; Democrats split their votes
Michelle Obama named most admired woman for third year in a row

https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx

And their details:
When the sitting president is not the top choice, it is usually because he is unpopular politically. That was the case in 2017 and 2018 when Trump had 36% and 40% approval ratings, respectively, and finished second to Obama as most admired man.

Even though Trump is similarly unpopular now -- 39% approve of his performance -- his dominant performance among Republicans, contrasted with Democrats splitting their choices among multiple public figures, pushes him to the top of the 2020 most admired man list.

Forty-eight percent of Republicans name Trump this year, with no other public figure receiving more than 2% of Republicans' votes.
Obama is the top choice among Democrats, at 32%, but that is down from 41% last year. President-elect Joe Biden (13%) is also commonly named by Democrats.
Additionally, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, is named by 5% of Democrats but only 1% of Republicans, further contributing to Democrats' relative dispersion of choices.
Independents are evenly split between Trump (11%) and Obama (11%), with another 3% naming Biden and 2% Fauci.

I think they drew the correct attention to it; I would further say that with 48% of Republicans choosing Trump, and no other public figure more than 2%, there's an implied "cult of Trump".

Music Man

(1,664 posts)
52. Bingo.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:49 PM
Dec 2020

Biden is now assuming the cultural role Obama did, and it only makes sense that they'll split the vote. Silly headline.

GoCubsGo

(34,934 posts)
27. So, 82% DO NOT admire him.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:52 PM
Dec 2020

Whatever. Perhaps this will cause him to lay off of his manbaby tantrums for a few hours.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,510 posts)
29. Obama and Biden split the vote.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:55 PM
Dec 2020

Joe’s election rose him to prominence and people who might otherwise have said Barack went to Joe.

It’s all silly and I doubt Trump will ever get the title again but you know his narcissistic ass is going to act like this is some big deal.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
45. Why are people going to conspiracy? It took 18% to "win."
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:30 PM
Dec 2020

We know that 30% of the country is batshit crazy Trump supporters. Should Gallup just not include them in their poll?

ProfessorGAC

(76,827 posts)
50. Despite Posts Above...
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:43 PM
Dec 2020

...I question the methodology.
And, despite those methods, I question the value of a poll that decides the result on getting 18% of the vote.
Because there's no balancing question.
The delta between admired & loathed might be more meaningful.
And, no way does Obama fall behind the IOTUS if measured that way.

Takket

(23,723 posts)
55. um.... Biden syphoning votes off Obama does not make drumpf the most admired person in America
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

You can't name a person "the most admired in America" with a single round of voting. This would be like the NCAA declaring a national basketball champion based on whoever scored the most points in the first round of the tournament........

you need to take the top 8 and have a second round of voting.... then top four... then top 2...........

this is a nonsensical way of voting.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
56. LOL -- the same day his approval ratings drop to 39%
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 02:54 PM
Dec 2020

If anyone ever needed a lesson in the mathematics of first-past-the-post polling methodology, here you have it.

18% for Trump vs. 24% for incontrovertible anti-trumps coming in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place.

This is also an object lesson for any friends you might have decrying the need for alternatives to our two party system.

Ron Green

(9,870 posts)
59. Lots of disbelief on this thread. Y'all realize, don't you, that
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:00 PM
Dec 2020

most people aren’t very smart? And that a wide-open poll of Americans always looks rather like the Jerry Springer show.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
60. Anyone who admires Donald Dumbass needs their head examined.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:43 PM
Dec 2020

And also look closely at how much of a thieving fraud they are or really want to be.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
63. That's impossible
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:54 PM
Dec 2020

Trump’s ratings are like his signature. Up, down, precipitous, jagged, dizzying rollercoaster sharp elbows jabbing the American people painfully in the ribs, large, fat, meaningless and in your face.

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