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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo be sure, democracy is going to make it after all.
With Josh Hawley going all fascistic coup attempt when he knows it is a complete bollocks, the republican party is officially dead, even if it manages to pull itself along like a zombie with its legs chopped off, from the walking dead, for the foreseeable. Hawley by stating that he's going to be the one to try and stop the democratic election of President-elect Joe Biden when it comes times for the Electoral College to finalize the 2020 election, has put the final nail in the coffin of any legitimacy the party thought they might still be able to invoke. As he positions himself as a post Trump presidential candidate of the future, Hawley is obviously setting the scene for challenging any future election result if he loses, even as he knows his attempt this time round will fail bigly
But surprise, surprise fascists hate democracy.
I have thoughts on this. You see we all decry the idea of what if another Trump comes along but with smarts to make any further coup attempt not only look more reasonable, but have a greater likelihood of success, but that ignores one vital piece of the post Trump era republican electorate puzzle. Why do we assume that the cult wants or would vote for someone with smarts that which is the very thing they despise? Why would the morons who still cling to idea that Trump won even in the face of all evidence to the contrary, want to vote for someone with a bigger brain than that of the idiot in chief? After all the fact that he lacks any policy ideas and is unintelligible and inarticulate has never been a weak point for Trump - his base does not love him despite that, but because of it. All those would-be democracy destroyers like Hawley [coming out of the gate with indecent haste] - that supposedly articulate Trumps positions better than he does, and therefore can appeal to his base 2024 is a lot of nonsense. The cult love Trump because he's just as crass, senseless, empathy free, intolerant, and insufferable as they are a slicker fascist is unlikely to cut it with this crowd and ergo Hawley should not assume that the cult will see him as Trump version two, after all Trump deliberately courted the people that are least likely to ever turn back to the elites in any future election and that is all the republicans have. RIP Wankers. LOL. To be sure, democracy is going to make it after all.
moondust
(19,963 posts)not to have to be concerned about the survival of democracy in the U.S. of all places. The U.S. a banana republic? Surely you jest!
However, not to forget that Republicans did pretty well in down-ballot races. It's possible that had something to do with 2020 being a redistricting year at the state level. Whatever the reason, it's probably too soon to write their obituary and forget about their threatening behavior.
global1
(25,225 posts)I never heard if him before this stunt.
Cosmo Blues
(2,467 posts)Or misery as a person from Missouri used to call it
BumRushDaShow
(128,527 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)The framers of our Constitution created a Republic, which is a Representative Democracy where
elected officials create laws. See *...
We're a long way from a perfect system but when it works right it's pretty good, I think. Now it looks
like we'll have a chance to keep working at it. We fought a violent and bloody revolution
from 1775 to 1783 to establish this nation under this political system and I refuse to let a bunch
of international or home-grown criminals change that. Are we ready for that fight? I'm not sure
but I still have hope.
Yes, it appears that our Republic has survived, at least for now. Again, it's sure to take more
than words to keep it and make it evolve into something better than it has been. If we have the
will to make that our reality then we'll succeed. It's up to us to and all peoples throughout the world
to put up or shut up and create the best world we can have.
* http://www.whatwouldthefoundersthink.com/a-republic-if-you-can-keep-it
Cosmo Blues
(2,467 posts)Loyalty is not reciprocated by Trump and Trump will eviscerate him in the primary if he decides to run
TuskMoar
(83 posts)So many on the left are (rightly and correctly) horrified at Trump's attempts to overthrow the results of the election. We must remain vigilant. And, there are huge problems (i.e., the electoral college and over-representation of the minority). However, on a more positive note, I am encouraged by the resilience of our democracy. Trump and his cult have thrown EVERYTHING against our system, including appointing sympathetic judges. And, we still held on to it. So good for us and good for democracy. Let's continue the ongoing fight of improving it.