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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Trump loving anti-mask sister just gave Covid to my 80 year old mom
I knew it was just a matter of time before this happened. My psycho sister thinks Covid is a hoax and at least twice a week would visit my mother. I told my mom a hundred times to not let her in the house if she wasn't going to wear a mask and my sister would threaten to never see her again if she made her wear a mask. Of course my mom gave in because she is tired of being alone constantly. 3 days ago she started feeling sick with a fever, sore throat, headache, etc and went and got a test. Just got the results and sure enough has Covid. This kind of behavior should be illegal, who the hell keeps going around and 80 year old with no mask in the middle of a pandemic??
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shrike3
(5,370 posts)
peacebuzzard
(5,870 posts)I am sorry for your mom. Hope she gets well.
hlthe2b
(113,908 posts)does not ALWAYS mean they will be responsible). But in my case they generally ARE. Still, I have a close friend with substantial personal health risks and whose husband is undergoing chemo for late-stage cancer with a fairly poor prognosis. She is having to deal with his family, who senses that his time is limited and want to have personal visits. Honestly, it is a horrible situation, but how can they demand a visit that will likely put his remaining days at risk? But, I can understand their desire to do so. BUt, at least they will likely adhere to wearing masks.
I hope for the best for your mother. 
jmbar2
(7,976 posts)She is already coping with so much stress. Why would they expose her to any more. My heart goes out to her.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Best wishes that she does.
I imagine we're going to see a lot of personal injury suits against people who refused to take appropriate care. Refusal to believe won't protect them.
And some people who flout regulations may be prosecuted for "depraved indifference to life," in special cases possibly even murder. That almost no one would try to kill grandma in order to inherit sooner doesn't mean no one would.
patricia92243
(12,975 posts)
DFW
(60,169 posts)I hope your mom survives this attempt on her life.
Reckless Endangerment.............
DFW
(60,169 posts)She knew exactly what the consequences were and did it anyway.
Nululu
(1,116 posts)
mopinko
(73,714 posts)i'm a sorry excuse for a witch, but you got all i got.
niyad
(132,300 posts)mopinko
(73,714 posts)i know i do enough things and check enough boxes, my chances of gettin hung back in the day were not good.
but if i was that good, i wouldnt have to put up w some of the shit i have to put up w, esp here in the plague times.
niyad
(132,300 posts)there is that annoying "Kharmic penalties for advancing life forms thing. AND the frogs tend to get upset!
wish myself up a man. lol.
niyad
(132,300 posts)
stopwastingmymoney
(2,347 posts)I was born on winter solstice and the running joke amongst my ‘coven’ of friends is that I’m the High Witch 
eta: sending healing vibes for BadDog40’s Mama 💕
niyad
(132,300 posts)moment of lightness.
We are sending all the healing and energy we can for BadDog's Mom. A truly awful situation.
The Animator
(1,140 posts)I would recommend Instacart, but if Men are out of stock at your local grocery, I don’t think home delivery will have any better luck.
niyad
(132,300 posts)overlooked that option. I really must get with the times! It is, after all, 2021!
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)I hope your mom recovers just fine. And I hope your sister learns a lesson.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)One of the things that makes this pandemic so frustrating is the refusal of others to be considerate of life itself, both their own and the lives of others.
I've given up trying to understand this surreal world we find ourselves in. I am SO glad 2020 is nearly over.
Ilsa
(64,356 posts)about the person you love most in the world getting COVID-19. And I suppose she feels no guilt for potentially bringing disease and possibly worse to your elderly mother.
I'm saying a pray for her recovery.
I have an aunt who is elderly, knows better than to go out, but she can't seem to stop herself. Isolating when necessary is too hard emotionally qfor her. She is a "social butterfly" and seems to thrive on being with others and doing things. Her husband says she probably has it now as she's been unwell the last few days. Her inability to adapt, to find the discipline, may be the cause of her destruction and her husband's. But she knows she's wrong. She knows COVID-19 is real.
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)you know it's been a year since this horrible virus. I remember someone from the CDC saying that this virus was going to life changing, hmm..some of us believed science and Drs. and not a idiot. Just makes me smh.
jmbar2
(7,976 posts)So many unnecessary deaths are happening due to ignorance and selfishness. I hope your mother makes it.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)
irisblue
(37,486 posts)
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)Disgusting behavior. This is why it's spreading so fast. 
sarge43
(29,173 posts)Well, your psycho sister probably has it, too.
Let me guess, she won't get tested until she succumbs. Meanwhile, she's spreading it.
I agree. That behavior should be a chargeable offense.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)
randr
(12,646 posts)Never let her forget the suffering she has caused!
rzemanfl
(31,357 posts)
Squinch
(59,498 posts)
greatauntoftriplets
(178,984 posts)
healthnut7
(249 posts)pandr32
(14,262 posts)Your sister not only bullied your Mom, but then caused her to contract covid-19 because of your sister's irresponsibility due to willful ignorance. There has been plenty of evidence during the last year to counter the "hoax" narrative, but your sister made the decision to believe otherwise.
Your sister should be tested and if she is found to have the virus, but asymptomatically she should be pushed to take full responsibility for your Mom's condition or get out of Dodge. She should pay for caregivers and anything your Mom needs. Hopefully your Mom will be well enough to stay home and not be hospitalized, or worse.
I am so sorry.
There is no excuse for willful ignorance or reckless endangerment of a vulnerable person.
Liberty Belle
(9,707 posts)This is so unacceptable! I hope your Mom pulls through.
wnylib
(25,967 posts)Karadeniz
(24,746 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)horrible. Some people have no moral code anymore.
vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)Honestly if that was my sister I would smack the fucking silly out of her
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would be beyond furious! This is a matter of life and death!
vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)I love my mom more than anything else in the world and if someone in my family (thankfully we are all liberal and pro masks) got my mom infected. I'd honestly snap
thesquanderer
(13,004 posts)If she hasn't gotten tested, she should... but if she's feeling well, from the sound of it, she probably won't.
weissmam
(910 posts)a Trump supporter
NellieStarbuck
(271 posts)I hope her sister at least has the decency to feel like shit about it.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)I know she may not want to go to a hospital but this is very important. This virus is no joke. It is an elderly person killer.
Lucky Luciano
(11,860 posts)
Skittles
(171,664 posts)wishing your mum well
CanonRay
(16,169 posts)So sorry. This shit is closing in.
Doodley
(11,890 posts)mountain grammy
(29,021 posts)I hope she recovers quickly. As for your psycho sister, it's amazing the level of stupidity trump has managed to tap into.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)
BadDog40
(317 posts)I rarely talk to her but decided to see what she had to say and of course it was "she didn't get it from me, I'm not sick" to "people arent dying, thats media BS". She wasn't concerned at all, she's nuts. I've been thinking this past year that it's almost like she was trying to get her exposed, my mom inherited a couple of million 2 years ago and my sister has tried to take advantage every way she could. The day before the restaurants were due to close indoor dining she talked my mom into taking her out to eat so she could get a free meal. I seriously think she is sitting around counting the days.
niyad
(132,300 posts)vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)Shes a motherfucking grifter and potential murderer. Now not to sound like the conspiracy person but it sounds like she got her infected on purpose so the chance she could die and get money.
femmedem
(8,561 posts)I truly hope your mother's symptoms don't worsen and that she makes a full recovery.
But I would never, never be able to forgive my sister. Maybe you're a better person than I am, but that relationship would be over if it were me.
My other hope is that after your mother recovers--I so hope she recovers--you will be able to spend time with her and she won't be alone anymore.
wnylib
(25,967 posts)your sister's behavior was a deliberate attempt tovharm your mother. Sounds like grounds to report her for elder abuse at the very least because that is concretely provable by her actions.
On a personal level, it is grounds for you to permanently "disown" her as a sister. I would.
LaMouffette
(2,640 posts)to suspect that she may have been trying to get your mom exposed. I'm so very sorry for what you are going through! Please stay safe and well!
soldierant
(9,352 posts)"The sister is actively trying to kill off Mom - there must be money somewhere" was the first thing I thought.
There probably is not enough tangible evidence to charge her with attempted muder (I am praying it stays only an attempt), there must be something she can be charged with. If you don't have one, find a good, tough lawyer.
BainsBane
(57,751 posts)even worse. I'm so sorry.
SmartVoter22
(639 posts)when your sister comes over to your mother's house.
1) Turn your phone camera onto video and start recording.
2) Warn her, that she is an imminent threat to your life and to go away.
If she doesn't and continues to approach you, then fire a warning shot.
3) If she does continue, then you could use the stand your ground laws, if applicable in your state.
3a) I don't suggesst trerminating her, but you can surely cripple her by taking out her knees, elbows
and/or hands. The bullying of your parents, by your sister is, in almost all states a crime.
Notes: I read of a similar case in Texas, where the family did defend a parent, using that law. They were not charged with felonies.
They did get a civil fine for discharging a weapon within city limits, or someething like that. I don't remember when this occured or where in Texas. I also do not know if the family had a restraining order on the person, but there was a long history with police over this person and the family parents.
stollen
(1,143 posts)I recognize this behavior from my extended family. I think your hunch is correct.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and only idiots believe him on COVID
she may not listen to him but it sounds like she knows of him and would probably know he's a leader of the trumper denial
niyad
(132,300 posts)posted. And I am sorry that you have such a blindly stupid, inconsiderate and selfish sister. Perhaps she will learn the hard way that this is not a hoax.
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GoneOffShore
(18,020 posts)TheRickles
(3,377 posts)Both can help nip things in the bud so that the body's inflammatory response to the infection doesn't overwhelm the lungs.
Here's the full protocol from Eastern Virginia Medical School: https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf
occupant
(166 posts)Thanx for that EVMS Covid 19 Management Protocol link, Rickles.Thank You very much!
Shame, Shame on BadDogs sister. She needs a whoopin...
bullwinkle428
(20,662 posts)my daily intake as well!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)
Cinnamonspice
(170 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)I hope this don't come in handy.
BainsBane
(57,751 posts)I couldn't control myself if someone in my family did that. They want to kill themselves, fine, but to infect the most vulnerable is too horrendous for words.
Warpy
(114,602 posts)Having said that I think you need to go with the statistics, that even people over 80, who have the highest death rate, only have a 15% chance of dying from this. I know statistics are cold comfort, but let them give you hope.
Remember, this disease is killing people who don't catch it by isolating them, preventing screenings for possible problems from diabetes to cancer, and generally robbing them of contact with the world. Your mom took a calculated risk. The tragedy is that it's happening now--in two moths or so she would have had that first shot and had it start to work and that means a much milder case.
Your mom could have had contact with a delivery person or neighbor, so unless your sister is ill with this or a documented asymptomatic carrier, there is no way to be 100% certain she was the source. Still, she is undeniably stupid and a big, fat baby who thinks this is all about her.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Best wishes to your mom for a quick recovery.
MiniMe
(21,883 posts)dawn5651
(771 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,412 posts)Our brother was there from San Diego. He listens to right wingers. My sister is a proud liberal living in L.A. County, epicenter of today's outbreak. He doesn't see why L.A. doesn't try something different rather than advocating for ultra safe behavior.
Like with AIDS It may come down to suing for damages.
DBoon
(24,980 posts)A suspect there is a large intersection between careless gun nuts and anti-maskers.
Trueblue Texan
(4,456 posts)...she should be held accountable by authorities.
Niagara
(11,831 posts)I know that my tRumper in-laws were diagnosed with Covid right before Christmas. I don't know if they're anti-maskers, but I do know that they're eating inside restaurants and most likely going to church. I haven't been around them since the pandemic began
They should start having the anti-maskers help out with turning and caring for Covid patients that are ventilators so that maybe they can grasp the reality of the situation.
Sending healing vibes to your mother.
OMGWTF
(5,130 posts)We just got back from our daily exercise walk; we always wear a mask. We were in a very expensive neighborhood and there was a group of four OLD people walking toward us and no one was wearing a mask. After they passed us, I turned around and gave them "the bird" -- one of the old women happened to turn around at the same time. I hope she saw it. Christ on a bike, I am sick of these GD entitled azzholes who DGAD about anyone or anything but their "freedumb!"
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)It is really hard to get unless you're in Trump's inner circle. But it is worth asking about. She should be eligible as an 80 year old, if anyone is.
Rebl2
(17,722 posts)sister also have symptoms of Covid too? I hope your Mom gets better. My parents are in a nursing home and both had it (in their 90’s) and they survived it as well as an uncle and aunt in their 90’s who live in assisted living-both survived too. Hope your sister is now understanding the consequences of her actions.
SunSeeker
(58,266 posts)Glad to hear all those 90 year olds survived it.
Hav
(5,969 posts)Infecting family members, especially my mother who is in a risk group, is my biggest fear right now. It's insane to me that others would deliberately choose to not even do the bare minimum to protect their own family. I just cannot understand how people can not only be so selfish but are also so incredibly stupid.
Demonaut
(10,075 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)You say she is lonely, so I assume the sister is the only visitor?
Perhaps set her up with some computer visits?
BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)Do not let her off the hook easily. If it were my sister, there's a good chance we'd have exactly one more conversation in this lifetime. Change "good chance" to "almost certainly."
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)I hope your sister realized how egregious her behavior is.
I hope your mom will be okay. Thoughts to you and her and for a healthy 2021.
murielm99
(32,983 posts)I hope your mom will be okay.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)
samnsara
(18,767 posts)..you have to fight crazy with crazy..
I hope your mom will be ok.
Celerity
(54,373 posts)your barrister (lawyer) and start up a plan of action in the horrific event this creature actually ends up killing your mum. There quite likely could be skulduggery afoot, especially if there is money at stake, and especially as this POS sister is a MAGAt and therefore in a cult based off deception and criminal intent and deed. It is in the aether surrounding all Trump worshippers, and quite likely in the very make-up of this vile sister.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)this Holiday Season.
So very sorry about your mom.
"who the hell keeps going around and 80 year old with no mask in the middle of a pandemic??"
Republicans, of course.
Cinnamonspice
(170 posts)People keep saying to do what they need to do and respect them, but them some of the anti-maskers won't respect what others want. I'm very sorry. I hope your mom gets better soon.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)PaulnFortWorth
(69 posts)It's known as attempted manslaughter. If your sister is the only one who visited your mom, your sister is the spreader. You can call the police and register a complaint about it. If your mom dies, the charge will change to negligent manslaughter.
It's a difficult decision to make but it'll keep your "psycho sister" from infecting others.
