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randr

(12,648 posts)
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:03 PM Dec 2020

Ran into Pro-Life neighbor at grocery store

He was not wearing a required mask. The only person in the store without one. He finally recognized me and said hi. I told him I had always thought he revered life, he has pro-life signs on his fence line. It took him a minute to process then he said he was exercising his right of choice. I responded that I personally have chosen to not kill him or anyone else in the store at that moment. He had no response. I hope he gives it some thought. I wish I had also added; I was treating him and everyone else as I would hope they would treat me.
I am growing more impatient with these people and soon will start asking establishments I enter to follow the protocols or forever lose my business.

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Ran into Pro-Life neighbor at grocery store (Original Post) randr Dec 2020 OP
Some pro-life stance he has! Yeah, right. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #1
It would seem that his pro-choice stance PatSeg Dec 2020 #19
Thats the way they all feel. RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #49
That's for sure PatSeg Dec 2020 #50
Should have called him out on "exercising his right of choice." Towlie Jan 2021 #65
He wants to exercise his right to chose, yet he doesn't want jrthin Dec 2020 #2
The irony is as thick as the hypocrisy randr Dec 2020 #4
My first thought also JDC Jan 2021 #67
"his right of choice" leftieNanner Dec 2020 #3
+1000. Well said. usaf-vet Dec 2020 #18
When you see him again, remind him that most unborn babies die with their mothers. Hortensis Dec 2020 #5
please stop calling them pro-life Skittles Dec 2020 #6
Good point, I wish the term had not stuck to them. randr Dec 2020 #7
Good point. I think the label 'their choice and no one else's' is a better description. SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #11
these fuckers are all against government interference Skittles Dec 2020 #12
Woman-hating gestational silvers is my preferred label. .at least, it's one I can use in public. niyad Dec 2020 #25
"Anti choice" is shorter and it fits. wnylib Dec 2020 #42
"Assholes" is even simpler and fits even better. cstanleytech Dec 2020 #48
Exactly they are pro-birth AS A POLITICAL TOOL. usaf-vet Dec 2020 #21
Pro-forced birth. CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #43
Anti-reproductive rights get the red out Jan 2021 #61
Good For You sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #8
I'm with you. I tend to cut these people out of my life. Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #9
I have always assumed they use the term "friends across the aisle" sarcastically randr Dec 2020 #10
I always thought so, too. A formal, traditional, and polite sarcasm. Beartracks Jan 2021 #68
It's like being beaten by your spouse while he lunatica Dec 2020 #13
Great Analogy nt sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #29
Personal liberty does not include endangering others. They do not get to decide what is endangerment Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #14
And it's not like wearing a piece of cloth on their face is a huge inconvenience. groundloop Dec 2020 #27
You could have asked "Does this mean you're pro-choice?" AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #15
The only way to get a store BootinUp Dec 2020 #16
Boycotting the store works. There are more maskers than anti-maskers, even in some red places. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #17
Pro-life is a myth. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #20
How does he get to exercise his right of choice while trying to impose his on the rest of us? malaise Dec 2020 #22
Ask him about a woman's choice and whether he nows understands personal choices are our own MagickMuffin Dec 2020 #23
You should have told him you were surprised to hear that he was now Pro-Choice! Nitram Dec 2020 #24
I can only hope the thought crossed his mind randr Dec 2020 #47
I've decided thoughts don't cross the minds of those people. They already know all they want to Nitram Jan 2021 #69
Why does his choice to potentially kill dozens matter more than a woman's choice about her body? n/t TygrBright Dec 2020 #26
Oh... I was hoping it involved a skateboard or bike. Chakaconcarne Dec 2020 #28
Why Should I Wear A Condom, When My Lover Can Just Get An Abortion? sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #30
"pro-life" is a misnomer, barbtries Dec 2020 #31
Isn't "pro-life" the moniker the anti-abortion crowd has labled themselves? randr Dec 2020 #32
i just don't believe that right-minded people should concede that to them. barbtries Dec 2020 #34
I would have never conceded to them, however, they started using this around 1980 randr Dec 2020 #35
still fighting it barbtries Dec 2020 #36
As are we all, and we have so far held them off. randr Dec 2020 #37
i have lost all patience and am ready to hit one with my kerbonger AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #33
We're going ro have to start wearing N95 masks bc these mf dont give a fuck about anyone. N95 RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2020 #38
My wife is an ER nurse and has made sure we are equipped with N95s from the start. randr Dec 2020 #39
Thought? That's the furthest thing from these people's minds.... paleotn Dec 2020 #40
Rev Al had a very well spoken fellow minister on with him last week Rhiannon12866 Dec 2020 #41
pro life and no mask millard filmore Dec 2020 #44
No liberty without responsibility mjvpi Dec 2020 #45
There are two things you can do. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #46
Nice! Blue Owl Dec 2020 #51
Pro birth is a much better description. 90-percent Dec 2020 #52
How can people not take this pandemic seriously? BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #53
You said the right stuff to him Dorian Gray Dec 2020 #54
That was very cordial as you describe it! Vinnie From Indy Jan 2021 #55
I would have responded that women should also be given secondwind Jan 2021 #56
When I read your header lillypaddle Jan 2021 #57
Not pro life, they are forced birthers, and they can go fuck off hard Celerity Jan 2021 #58
Why do people use the 'pro life' title Aussie105 Jan 2021 #59
Good for you I feel the same way, it's hard for me Tribetime Jan 2021 #60
There is far less reason get the red out Jan 2021 #62
If they want the government to The Wizard Jan 2021 #63
Walmart gets my grocery business as much as I hate to say that. They were the best in my area about brewens Jan 2021 #64
I did the Walmart pick-up for one shopping trip last yesr randr Jan 2021 #66

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
1. Some pro-life stance he has! Yeah, right.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:08 PM
Dec 2020

I think he feels his life takes precedence over other peoples'.

I hope businesses will quickly start enforcing the rules!

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
19. It would seem that his pro-choice stance
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:55 PM
Dec 2020

supersedes his pro-life one. How ironic. When it affects HIS rights, he is pro-choice.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
50. That's for sure
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 09:43 PM
Dec 2020

They love telling other people what to do with their lives, but the rules rarely apply to them. They are often oblivious to what they are doing, because they are incapable of seeing things from another person's perspective.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
65. Should have called him out on "exercising his right of choice."
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jan 2021

 


The bottom line: There is no right to spread disease!

jrthin

(5,223 posts)
2. He wants to exercise his right to chose, yet he doesn't want
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:08 PM
Dec 2020

to give women the right to choose.

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
3. "his right of choice"
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:10 PM
Dec 2020

You mean, he thinks that people should have a choice about their health?? Like maybe women should have a "choice" about what they can do with their bodies??

Oh, you mean a man gets to have a choice about whether he gets sick or infects other people. Got it.

If he tried that at my grocery store, they would boot him out! The assistant manager is quite fierce about that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. When you see him again, remind him that most unborn babies die with their mothers.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:17 PM
Dec 2020

And that at any time a bit over 1 out of every ten females of childbearing age are pregant. That means he's already supported the sacrifice of many thousands of unborn babies to his freedom to refuse to wear a mask.

He has no problem with laws that restrict his freedom to cross empty streets, but that's because his leader didn't tell him to.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
11. Good point. I think the label 'their choice and no one else's' is a better description.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:35 PM
Dec 2020

Skittles

(171,703 posts)
12. these fuckers are all against government interference
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:36 PM
Dec 2020

unless it's between a woman and her doctor

FUCK THEM

niyad

(132,429 posts)
25. Woman-hating gestational silvers is my preferred label. .at least, it's one I can use in public.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:10 PM
Dec 2020

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
21. Exactly they are pro-birth AS A POLITICAL TOOL.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:00 PM
Dec 2020

Once the child is born from that point on they are on their own.

How many families right now are out of work (CoVid) closures WITH a newborn in the house. That needs money for food, heat, rent, and medicine. And MoscowMitch is opposed to giving those families $2000 because he doesn't want to give it to people who don't need it. BULLSHIT.... pro-life is a repug JOKE.

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
61. Anti-reproductive rights
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jan 2021

But once a baby is born to someone who is poor they are either useless eater who should never have been born, or a potential product for Fundy adoption agencies.

 

sfstaxprep

(10,599 posts)
8. Good For You
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:31 PM
Dec 2020

If it were me, that would probably be the last time I ever responded to them with even a "Hello." I'd act like they didn't exist.

These people ostracize and put us down, and then think a nice "hello," is going to make it all better.

And I'm also long past sick about those in Congress referring to their "Friends" across the aisle. THEY'RE NOT YOUR FUCKING FRIENDS. They DESPISE EVERYTHING you stand for, and are willing to go to any lengths, including FRAUD & CHEATING, to beat you down.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
14. Personal liberty does not include endangering others. They do not get to decide what is endangerment
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:46 PM
Dec 2020

Science (medicine) gets to decide what is the endangerment in a pandemic. They have spoken.

No, personal liberty does not give you an unobstructed right to build a 100 story tower on a suburban or urban house sized plot.

Because physics.

No, personal liberty does not give you the right to store a moving van full of explosives in a urb/sub neighborhood. Not if you are an expert explosives technician or a guy whose experience is reloading bullets with gunpowder.

Because chemistry.

No, personal liberty does not give you the right to drive 100 mph in a populated neighborhood even if it is a wide straight road on a clear day.

Because statistics.

groundloop

(13,845 posts)
27. And it's not like wearing a piece of cloth on their face is a huge inconvenience.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:20 PM
Dec 2020

These bastards aren't exercising any 'right' and they know it. They're just stupid assholes.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. Boycotting the store works. There are more maskers than anti-maskers, even in some red places. . nt
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:51 PM
Dec 2020

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
20. Pro-life is a myth.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:58 PM
Dec 2020

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

Pro-life is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

malaise

(296,076 posts)
22. How does he get to exercise his right of choice while trying to impose his on the rest of us?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:01 PM
Dec 2020

I hate these people

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
23. Ask him about a woman's choice and whether he nows understands personal choices are our own
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:04 PM
Dec 2020

He doesn't get to decide what a woman's choice on making their own decisions.

Nitram

(27,741 posts)
69. I've decided thoughts don't cross the minds of those people. They already know all they want to
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:18 PM
Jan 2021

know, so they don't have to listen to the opinions of anybody else.

TygrBright

(21,361 posts)
26. Why does his choice to potentially kill dozens matter more than a woman's choice about her body? n/t
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:14 PM
Dec 2020
 

sfstaxprep

(10,599 posts)
30. Why Should I Wear A Condom, When My Lover Can Just Get An Abortion?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:29 PM
Dec 2020

I'm just exercising my personal liberties by not wearing a condom. Screw your Pro-Life BS.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
31. "pro-life" is a misnomer,
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:38 PM
Dec 2020

assuming you're referring to a person who is anti-abortion. please don't give them that moniker.

randr

(12,648 posts)
32. Isn't "pro-life" the moniker the anti-abortion crowd has labled themselves?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:45 PM
Dec 2020

Any time I hear the phrase that is what I assume.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
34. i just don't believe that right-minded people should concede that to them.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:53 PM
Dec 2020

yes, they did, and it is deceptive. pro-forced birth, anti-women, anti-choice, any of these are more accurate.

I am pro-life. I am pro-choice.

randr

(12,648 posts)
35. I would have never conceded to them, however, they started using this around 1980
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:57 PM
Dec 2020

It is rather ingrained in the American lexicom, unfortunately.
It is sad that the pro-choice people have never come up with a counter that had more power.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
36. still fighting it
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:58 PM
Dec 2020

after all these years! it's a little campaign i'm on. Join me, let's grow it

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
38. We're going ro have to start wearing N95 masks bc these mf dont give a fuck about anyone. N95
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:08 PM
Dec 2020

..or M95 forgot which [will ask my son who works @ at trauma hospital] he says they are more expensive but protects the wearer and ate required protective wear for drs and nurses and or direct patient care support staff.

randr

(12,648 posts)
39. My wife is an ER nurse and has made sure we are equipped with N95s from the start.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:12 PM
Dec 2020

I encourage all our DU friends to mask up and survive.

paleotn

(22,211 posts)
40. Thought? That's the furthest thing from these people's minds....
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:20 PM
Dec 2020

If they have minds at all.

Rhiannon12866

(255,514 posts)
41. Rev Al had a very well spoken fellow minister on with him last week
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:23 PM
Dec 2020

Who had an excellent description of what it means to be "pro life." He said it meant to support the lives of other humans from the cradle to the grave.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
46. There are two things you can do.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:50 PM
Dec 2020

Report the violation to the county health board. And if the grocery store is part of a chain report it to the store too.

90-percent

(6,956 posts)
52. Pro birth is a much better description.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 10:11 PM
Dec 2020

After you pop out it's every newborn for themselves.


With thanks to Molly Ivans.


-90% jimmy

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
53. How can people not take this pandemic seriously?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 10:48 PM
Dec 2020

No offence, but that especially applies Americans. It's not like the US has a lot of facets of this pageant of horrors that be pointed to with pride. HE is one of the reasons the country is struggling so. A bit player, for sure, but still part of the cast.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
54. You said the right stuff to him
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:44 PM
Dec 2020

the could actually change his mind. Hopefully it made a dent.

I will never for the life of me understand the resistance to mask wearing. It's stupid and unnecessary.

Luckily the few republicans i know wear them willingly (albeit more because they feels guilted/compelled to in the Northeast.) Regardless, I appreciate the culture of expecting masks and people choosing not to wear them are the outliers. Grateful I'm not in a place where it's less commonplace.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
55. That was very cordial as you describe it!
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:41 AM
Jan 2021

You could also have said that you were wearing a mask because you cared enough about him to not kill him by giving him the disease.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
56. I would have responded that women should also be given
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:27 AM
Jan 2021

the RIGHT OF CHOICE.

How selfish he is!

lillypaddle

(9,606 posts)
57. When I read your header
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:53 AM
Jan 2021

my immediate first thought was, "You mean you ran into an anti-choice neighbor."

Funny that he would bring up the issue of choice. They sure pick and choose what fits their sick narrative, don't they?

Aussie105

(7,914 posts)
59. Why do people use the 'pro life' title
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 05:22 AM
Jan 2021

when they really mean pro birth - and you are on your own after that?

More to 'life' than 'birth' surely?

People truly advocating 'pro life' really need to think about healthcare from birth, educational opportunities, job opportunities, and care in old age.

Force a mother to give birth against her best wishes, and you really are obliged to provide adequate support for her and her child for the rest of the child's natural days.
(Other countries seem to manage that quite well.)

But the 'pro life' people never seem to go there. Wondering why?

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
60. Good for you I feel the same way, it's hard for me
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:24 AM
Jan 2021

not to lose my temper. I just start walking with a pronounced step shaking my head in a pissed off mode ad I pass the maskless. It seems to get the point across that Im pissed without a confrontation

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
62. There is far less reason
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 08:39 AM
Jan 2021

For a woman to have to cover her breasts than for people to have to cover their noses and mouths during a raging pandemic. (Not that I would recommend going topless in most of the country right now, brrrr).

The Wizard

(13,735 posts)
63. If they want the government to
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

enforce their religious dogma on others they, by definition, are anti First Amendment and anti Constitution, and by extension, anti American, and anti everyone who has sworn an oath to protect and defend that same Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
They unwittingly wrapped themselves in a package we can send to FEMA reeducation camps, preferably in Uzbekistan .

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
64. Walmart gets my grocery business as much as I hate to say that. They were the best in my area about
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

enforcing precautions. I'm in Idaho and that particular Walmart is about three miles away in Washington, so they had to. My previous preferred store was Winco in Idaho, an employee owned and operated store. I sent them several messages about enforcing masks. They only replied that they follow local regulations and would continue to do so.

Maybe I'll go back after all this is over, I have become quite attached to the Walmart pickup system. I hope they continue it. It wasn't like I enjoyed grocery shopping all that much anyway. It's pretty nice putting the order in online, sitting in my truck listening to tunes for a few minutes and having them bring my stuff to me.

randr

(12,648 posts)
66. I did the Walmart pick-up for one shopping trip last yesr
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

They did a good job. Otherwise I have been going 20 miles, near Walmart, to a Safeway. They are almost empty mid mornings, have wide aisles, very protocol oriented staff, and a great organic selection of everything. The store in my post was my more local City Market which I have rarely shopped at this year due to larger crowds and less space.

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