The executioner takes a mulligan in Ohio.

[JohnnyRingo]

This convicted murderer in Ohio avoided his fate when the physicians failed to find a vein to administer the lethal drugs. I imagine he felt great relief that The Lord smiled on him by pulling him from the icy clutches of The Grim Reaper. Well, he just died of Covid19.

As my dad would say, "They get you one way or another".

Ohio inmate who survived execution attempt dies in prison of probable Covid-19

In 2009, executioners tried and failed 18 times to find a vein on Romell Broom while attempting to administer a lethal injection.

A condemned Ohio inmate, who survived an executioner's needle more than a decade ago, has died — probably from complications of Covid-19, officials said Wednesday.

Romell Broom, a 64-year-old convicted murderer, passed away on Monday at Franklin Medical Center, according to Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction spokeswoman Sara French.

The state of Ohio says at least 124 inmates have died from confirmed or probable cases of coronavirus, as it continues to ravage the nation.

*snip*

Back in Sept. 15, 2009, Broom, then 53, was set to be put to death, but executioners couldn't find a suitable vein that could be used for his lethal injection.

The execution was finally put off after Broom was stuck by needles 18 times over two hours.

He was set again for execution on March 16, 2022.

Broom was convicted for the 1984 murder and rape of Tryna Middleton, 14, who was kidnapped as she walked home from a football game with two friends.

More here:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-inmate-who-survived-execution-attempt-dies-prison-possible-covid-n1252553

[AmyStrange]

1. Even though I'm against the death penalty...

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I can't reconcile that with the fact that I think that some of these low lifes really do deserve it.

Personally, if I had any say in the matter, I'd have them tied down naked on a metal slab 24/7, and every other day, a member of the victim's family was allowed to go in with a metal pipe and...

Well, I'm sure I don't need to elaborate on that one.
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[JohnnyRingo]

2. I'm against capital punishment as well.

But I've never felt sympathy for a murderer.
My issue is that even one innocent convict killed is too many.

It appears fate decided this one.

[AmyStrange]

3. Absolutely true, but...

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what concerns me are the murderers who commit multiple murders and the evidence goes way beyond any type of reasonable doubt.

In my opinion, if you're going to execute someone, you need evidence that is absolute and not based on, "Well, it could've happened this way."

Otherwise, it's unconscionable.
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[JohnnyRingo]

5. Legally, the evidence goes beyond any shadow of doubt...

...in every murder conviction. It's the standard required.

Mistaken ID or overzealous prosecutors result in too many wrongful executions.

I like to use as an example someone robs a liqueur store and shoots a clerk. Police come, get a description of a black man with brown eyes and long curly hair wearing a Nike shirt and black jeans. The cops hit the streets and grab the first person that matches. They take him back and the store clerk says "yeah, I think that's him". They have an eye witness.

The only thing that happens after that is a short trial with a public defender.

As an aside, I think it was Chappelle who said he carries a receipt for everything he buys, even an ice cream cone, so he can prove where he was.

[AmyStrange]

6. I agree with you, except

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it's reasonable doubt, not shadow of a doubt:

Legal Definition of reasonable doubt

a doubt especially about the guilt of a criminal defendant that arises or remains upon fair and thorough consideration of the evidence or lack thereof

all persons are presumed to be innocent and no person may be convicted of an offense unless each element of the offense is proved beyond a reasonable doubt
— Texas Penal Code

https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/reasonable%20doubt
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[JohnnyRingo]

7. Point taken

[Iggo]

4. I'm against it.

No buts.

[Maru Kitteh]

8. They couldn't find a vein?

Um, that's very difficult to believe.

[JohnnyRingo]

9. Couldn't find one on me last spring

They used them up with IVs and blood tests and it got to the point they just couldn't hit one anymore.
They had to insert a PICC line in me that ran right to my heart.

I suppose they could do that to a convict though, unless there's some legal reason why not.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. I just don't get our justice system.

September 2009: “We couldn’t find a vein. What does your schedule look like in March of 2022? Does the 16th work for you?”