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Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 06:53 PM Jan 2021

Have you ever known a former union member living on a good union pension that is anti-union?

Such people do exist. I know several. There is nothing that says "first world problems" more than someone who has a good life and retirement going, yet complains about unions, especially when it was a union that helped them get what they currently have.

I'm to the point where I don't even try to reason with such people. I avoided a lot of discussions this Holiday Season.

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Have you ever known a former union member living on a good union pension that is anti-union? (Original Post) Ohioboy Jan 2021 OP
I know one that was a shop steward for years Sgent Jan 2021 #1
I know several, they can retire and play golf because they were in the union but love Trump. dem4decades Jan 2021 #2
That attitude of. . . Collimator Jan 2021 #3
Yes... It astonishes me. DEbluedude Jan 2021 #4
Yes, one of my cousins and my uncle obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #5
Yes, I know a few. During our family Christmas my daughter(who belongs to a union) blueinredohio Jan 2021 #6
Kinda comes down to. The Unions provided them with the BEST lifestyle THEN bluestarone Jan 2021 #7
I know 2. Kingofalldems Jan 2021 #8
Right? Out of the goodness of their hearts, no doubt! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2021 #19
Only retired cops Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #9
A lot of them are anti-Democrat however. comradebillyboy Jan 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyWulf Jan 2021 #11
Short answer is Hell Yes. Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #12
Yes, he is my BIL SharonAnn Jan 2021 #13
We know a staunch Republican once in a Union. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #14
Yes, and I have known retired government employees who are Republicans and jalan48 Jan 2021 #15
Hell, I know a "dues objector" who's working here right now. Grokenstein Jan 2021 #16
My dad is a retired teamster RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #17
Yeah, like half of them. Like everything else in this country. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #18
Yes I worked in a union shop for over 40 years. The were many that opposed everything doc03 Jan 2021 #20
I taught for 36 years. One coworker would not pay the dues, too cheap. badhair77 Jan 2021 #21
Sounds familiar. displacedtexan Jan 2021 #25
Yep, many. I was a Union officer for over thirty years. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #22
No different than timms139 Jan 2021 #23
I was always in a Union pwb Jan 2021 #24
No, but I do know a shit ton of Retired Veterans maxrandb Jan 2021 #26

Sgent

(5,858 posts)
1. I know one that was a shop steward for years
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

and although pro-union but very anti-government / republican.

dem4decades

(14,057 posts)
2. I know several, they can retire and play golf because they were in the union but love Trump.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

And we're not talking about people in the Engineering and Scientific and Technical Unit. Though when I was in that union there were members that were Republicans.

Collimator

(2,119 posts)
3. That attitude of. . .
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

"I got mine. Screw everybody else." is more common than we would like to believe. And more of those people tend to gravitate to the Republican party.

DEbluedude

(853 posts)
4. Yes... It astonishes me.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jan 2021

And everyone one of those assholes I know are faux news addicts. We truly live in Dumbfuckistan.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
6. Yes, I know a few. During our family Christmas my daughter(who belongs to a union)
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jan 2021

said unions are not good. They take care of people who don't want to work and the company works the he'll out of everyone else. I told her without the union she wouldn't make the good wages she does and have no benefits. The company would work you even harder if you didn't have a union. And a union helped you have the good life you had growing up. I think every business should have a union.

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
7. Kinda comes down to. The Unions provided them with the BEST lifestyle THEN
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jan 2021

They have money in the savings and 401 k's. AFTER that fuck everyone else!! YEA i see it too!

Kingofalldems

(40,278 posts)
8. I know 2.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:03 PM
Jan 2021

Trumpers who blame unions for everything and claim management would have given them a pension without the union.

Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
14. We know a staunch Republican once in a Union.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jan 2021

Until Scott Walker’s war on unions and the union-busting. Been Democrat ever since.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
15. Yes, and I have known retired government employees who are Republicans and
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jan 2021

think their taxes are too high.

Grokenstein

(6,356 posts)
16. Hell, I know a "dues objector" who's working here right now.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jan 2021

He's also a holier-than-everyone-else "devout Christian"...who cares more about his taxes than the homeless and hungry. If you argue either point with him, he'll just go into what I call "bobblehead mode" and say, "Yeaaaaaah, I knoooow, but I want the money" and try to change the subject.

What really shocked me is the number of Trumpublican union members out here who still desire a chance to lick Donald's anus. Shouldn't have been surprised, I suppose--it's grunt work, so yeah, a lot of bigots, frustrated wifebeater-wannabes and childish incels out here, plenty of Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) cases and nitwits who would never question the most insane bullshit FOXHenhouse dumps on them.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
20. Yes I worked in a union shop for over 40 years. The were many that opposed everything
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jan 2021

the union did and complained about the dues all their lives but were happy to take all the benefits and now draw a good pension because of the union. They were also Republicans. The proof of this is what was called the Blue Wall states that voted for Trump in 2016
those were the states with the union jobs.

badhair77

(5,181 posts)
21. I taught for 36 years. One coworker would not pay the dues, too cheap.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jan 2021

But he was first in line to grab the benefits. Plus he was an evangelical voting only red. Our union endorsed candidates based only on educational policies. That always meant Dems. He objected because they were pro choice. No one forced him to vote for them, no member dues went to those candidates, but that was why he would not join. Religious objections. Frankly he went to the Church of the Cheap. Yeah, I miss him. He’ll walk away soon with a bigger pension than mine simply because salaries are higher now. Grrrr . . .

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
25. Sounds familiar.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 01:18 AM
Jan 2021

Every time contract negotiations were set to begin, my inbox in the main office was suddenly stuffed with wish lists from anti-Union teachers. It's always the non-dues payers who ask for the moon.
I tore up those lists (always the unsigned ones) and threw them in the trash in front of everyone.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
22. Yep, many. I was a Union officer for over thirty years.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 10:21 PM
Jan 2021

And the anti-union members were the biggest pain in the ass people I have ever dealt with.

All complaints and no solutions.

timms139

(543 posts)
23. No different than
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

all the people who get social security and other benefits and hate Democrats who got and protect those benefits from Republicans.

pwb

(12,669 posts)
24. I was always in a Union
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 12:27 AM
Jan 2021

and I must admit they do exist. Most do not pay dues but still get the benefits of unionization.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
26. No, but I do know a shit ton of Retired Veterans
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 01:19 AM
Jan 2021

with a pension and medical benefits most Americans can only dream of that think everyone in a Union is a socialist "taker".

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