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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow, I'm hearing "end times" nonsense from a family member
My daughter and I declined going to my brother's house on Christmas Eve because of the size of gathering he was having. His wife comes from a large family and the numbers present can grow rapidly and unannounced. To top it off, my nephew, his GF and their 3 month old baby were coming in from a super red where no one wears masks.
Even though I had Covid last summer, my immune system is still recovering and I pick up colds very easily. Additionally, my daughter has taken a lot of precautions and scaled back her contact with extended family and her SO's family. She also had invited me over to her house first, and I didn't feel it was fair to her for me to go to my brother's house then to hers the next day. That was a cross-contamination I wasn't willing to risk.
We texted each other Merry Christmas, and I thought everything was fine. Then I get the following text from my brother on Monday:
Just now I saw that a head rabbi in Isreal is saying that he is in contact with the Messiah and the messiah going to be revealed soon. We know that Christ is the messiah and we also know that in scripture that the messiah that the Jewish people will accept is in fact the anti christ. Bible proficiency is comming together so fast about the end times that I get new information nearly evrey week. But... with this announcement just comming out.... its serious. If you feel a calling towards God listen to it. Get right with God now. We need to be strong in our faith and even stronger in our relationship with God.
We may not know the hour but we will know the season if we pay attention and im certain that we are in the season now.
I love you guys!
Neither of us responded. Then we both sent Happy New Year and "I love you," but he didn't respond. My gut is telling me that I may be losing my younger brother here. We have different fathers and weren't raised together, but I still love him. Now, I honestly don't know when or even if he is going to want to talk to me again.
I'm sorry. I just needed to vent. 2020 couldn't just quietly leave. It had to come in for one more blow. This sucks. I just keep reminding myself that 2021 is the year we get to start cleaning up this mess personally and politically.
One mess I would like to see cleaned up is putting a lot more Karen Laws on the books. We need to bring civility back to public life by holding these entitled Karens (of both sexes) accountable for their racism and their tantrums.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Daring Covid, denying loved ones, and then this crazy apocalypse talk.
I worry about the children of people like this-- listening to their parents speak approvingly of the world ending soon.
Yeehah
(6,486 posts)They are promised a wonderful afterlife in exchange for their fealty to whatever messiah is making money for its creators.
DURHAM D
(33,054 posts)you couldn't follow. Will wait for the movie.
Archae
(47,245 posts)If your brother has fell into that shit, there may be nothing to do but wait him out.
Even Harold Camping, before he died, finally admitted he was dead wrong.
3Hotdogs
(15,369 posts)Then I found out, I was wrong.
dutch777
(5,068 posts)its hard to believe how much whackadoodle is out there. And I bet some schmuck is fertilizing this thinking on line and charging people to read and people are buying it. Very sick!
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Sorry you have to go thru that.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts).
Like those Nostradamus prophecies, people always look for current signs to try and make them applicable.
I remember when Muammar Gaddafi was supposed to the the Purple Robe wearer signifying the Great War.
Where is he now?
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PatSeg
(53,214 posts)is they want the rapture so badly, that they sometimes do things to speed it up, a self-fulfilling prophecy. Why wear a mask or social distance, as a plague is part of the End-Times. I think many fundamentalists know what an immoral, corrupt man Trump is, but he may fit into their vision of the End Times. They want to be resurrected so badly, they will not only turn a blind eye to evil, they may even encourage it (or vote for it).
Instead of using their religion to live better and more principled lives, they are using it to help end civilization.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)PatSeg
(53,214 posts)even though Jesus explained it quite clearly in the Scriptures that they love to tout all the time.
bluestarone
(22,179 posts)They are in a hurry for some dumb ass reason!! I'm in NO HURRY lol!
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)bluestarone
(22,179 posts)Like the ones that always come to your door to spread the word? Ask them, and they will tell you that God told them to spread the word.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)If heaven exists, I'm quite sure it will wait for them. And if there is some grand divine plan, it is pretty arrogant to believe you can accelerate it just to fulfill you own desires, not to mention delusional.
bluestarone
(22,179 posts)Seems like they DO NOT believe what their good book says. ("NO ONE will know when the end of times are near"
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)some kind of disclaimer - "And no one shall try to supersede god's plan". Maybe throw in some threat of eternal damnation for emphasis! Oh, never mind, they wouldn't read it anyway. They cherry pick the bible to suit their own beliefs and desires.
brush
(61,033 posts)Use extreme caution.
Ilsa
(64,377 posts)their messiah, and really screw with the fundamentalists.
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lunasun
(21,646 posts)Actually you were nice I guess but it comes off all sort of anti Semitic too
Get right with Jesus before the Jews unleash the antichrist and start the end of times ?
Im not Jewish but I wouldnt want to be blamed for bringing an antichrist in to this believers weird world of fear.
you have a reason to be concerned about the new strange beliefs but also about Covid
Wonder where its all coming from
ShazzieB
(22,592 posts)susanr516
(1,512 posts)They are both Zionists and anti Semitic. In the warped end times version most of my family believe, the Temple must be rebuilt in Jerusalem before God eventually destroys the world and all but 144,000 Jews. Some of them have "Pray for Israel" bumper stickers on their vehicles. They love Israel, but can't care less about its citizens--or anyone else in the Middle East, for that matter. Honestly, believing in lizard people and/or that 5G transmissions are the cause of Covid-19 make more sense than a lot their "end times" bs.
Blue Owl
(59,111 posts)A greed-driven, dishonest, immoral, egocentric, sociopathic mass murderer not getting re-elected is all part of the great downfall.
Complete. Insanity.
Skittles
(171,718 posts)Mister Ed
(6,927 posts)DFW
(60,189 posts)Bible proficiency? Sounds like the best Christmas present one could have gotten him is a course of ESL (English as a Second Language).
Sorry anyone is having to through this, but if hes to be saved, its time to toss him an oxygen tank and a secure line to the surface ASAP. With a text like his, hes fast sinking lower than where the light of day penetrates.
ShazzieB
(22,592 posts)Couldn't figure that one out at all. Good catch!
KatyMan
(4,340 posts)Not making excuses for the content tho.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Bucky
(55,334 posts)"Can I have your car when the Lord calls you home?" quickly put a stop to inappropriate Thanksgiving dinner table conversation. Mom didn't approve, but dad couldn't stop giggling
MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)bluestarone
(22,179 posts)I will use it for sure!!!
hedda_foil
(16,985 posts)So far it hasn't happened anymore than the Second Coming has happened though it's been predicted to happen countless times since the first coming ended up on a crucifix on a hill outside the city walls of Jerusalem.
Mariana
(15,626 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,765 posts)It's baked in to the formula. A feature, not a bug.
TuskMoar
(87 posts)asking for a friend.
Doodley
(11,914 posts)of an "anti-Christ."
panader0
(25,816 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)They haven't figured out yet that maybe, juuuust maybe, it is a hoax.
Politicalgolfer
(317 posts).....we are the one who got the Anti-Christ first...'cause we're Number One, don't ya know. The Rabbi is off by 4 years and looking in the wrong country😛
talkinghand
(1,309 posts)Jared Kushner may well be the 2nd beast -the false prophet who points to the Antichrist. And Trump may very well be the beast. The 2nd beast will be a Jew - he comes out of the earth symbolic of Judaism. The first beast comes from the sea symbolic of gentiles.
Kushner is a Jew and not only that hes of the extreme sect that believes they must force their messiahs coming by manipulating world events. He has his tentacles everywhere already - prominent works leaders on speed dial, daily phone calls to Kissinger, a big loan from Soros plus now selling bonds in Israel. Hes also on the phone with his familys friend Netanyahu. Constantly.
We dont know but the Rabbi may well have Kushner in his sights as messiah. The last messiah died a few years ago and Kushner made a point of visiting his graveside.
Kushner owns the 666 5th Ave building which for some reason he way overpaid for. Inside the building Lucent technologies manufactures RFID chips. The chips have names like Inferno.
Hes married to the most powerful man in the worlds daughter, and with zero qualifications steered two presidential campaigns plus basically ran foreign and domestic policy for the USA the past four years. He said COVID was a blue state thing let it spread. He is Teflon and has escaped Covid and myriad scandals in the administration.
Trump can be the Assyrian Antichrist as his family is from the part of Germany the Assyrians populated long ago. Romans occupied the countryside there filling another Beast criteria. His mesmerizing Hitler-like speeches contain the dark sentences the Bible mentions, hes of fierce countenance, and like his father the devil the truth is not in him. Got into and maintains power through flatteries. There isnt another contemporary Antichrist candidate who ticks off so many boxes.
The fact that Jared Kushner props Trump up is indicative of the second beast/first beast relationship. Remember in the Bible the first beast double crosses the Jewish one and worships a new god of fortresses - finally desecrating the Temple by declaring himself God.
So let your misguided MAGA relative in on this interpretation - these Trump worshippers are under strong delusion in these ends times.