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if we had lost the House, the GOP would hand the presidency to trump right now (Original Post) TomDaisy Jan 2021 OP
I agree ... the GOP under Cult45 have been exposed as having not a patriotic bone in their bodies mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #1
So how do we stop this when it can actually happen? jalan48 Jan 2021 #2
With a new law that supersedes 3 U.S. Code 15 and only allows challenges that have proof. marie999 Jan 2021 #6
Thanks. Republican's have figured out how to game a system that requires a good faith effort by jalan48 Jan 2021 #7
+1, cause the threat of sanctioning lawyers that bring stupid suites to court don't work at all uponit7771 Jan 2021 #8
I think it would be like the repeal and replace fight. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #3
CORRECT Skittles Jan 2021 #4
I think you are correct. badboy67 Jan 2021 #5
The Republican Party HAS gone the full Jim Jones. Girard442 Jan 2021 #19
The 2018 midterms saved democracy Freddie Jan 2021 #9
The Moderates Saved Democracy Flipping Cha Jan 2021 #25
True BlueJac Jan 2021 #10
I don't think the enough Republican senators who would support this. David__77 Jan 2021 #11
That would mean just saying fraud is all it takes treestar Jan 2021 #12
exactly TomDaisy Jan 2021 #14
This is why he's so mad and not giving up Iwasthere Jan 2021 #13
they cheated in many ways, including DeJoy, no drop boxes, long lines, etc. TomDaisy Jan 2021 #15
True, & it seems like most folks don't realize this. CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #16
The debate will be interesting treestar Jan 2021 #24
Yep, even with a 7plus million vote pad, democracy would be dead here bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #17
But it didn't happen..can we please stop with the doom and gloom...please! Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #18
Thank you StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #20
that is true. Letting the GOP win the presidency or both chambers would be the end of democracy samsingh Jan 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Jan 2021 #22
Correct. Country came very close to even more tragic disaster. nt wiggs Jan 2021 #23
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. I agree ... the GOP under Cult45 have been exposed as having not a patriotic bone in their bodies
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jan 2021

They are the party of fascism, dictatorship, and tyranny, as you correctly said.

They would totally steal this thing, despite not having a SHRED of evidence to back their claims ... they'd make a naked power-grab and dare anyone to do something about it.

Guarantee it.

Mitt would be the only dissenter.

The only reason some of them are acting somewhat reasonable is because they know they can't win the challenge cause the House is ours. Those few are simply engaging in the political exercise of managing expectations, not standing up for the Constitution and our Democracy.

jalan48

(13,842 posts)
7. Thanks. Republican's have figured out how to game a system that requires a good faith effort by
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jan 2021

the participants.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
3. I think it would be like the repeal and replace fight.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jan 2021

They were happy to vote for repeal until it mattered. Same here. They’re happy to pander to their supporters because it won’t change anything.

Cha

(296,881 posts)
25. The Moderates Saved Democracy Flipping
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 05:54 PM
Jan 2021

forthyish ted seats BLUE! They Won on Health Care, Too.

David__77

(23,335 posts)
11. I don't think the enough Republican senators who would support this.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jan 2021

That said, the point stands. Coups can be considered fair game, I suppose.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. That would mean just saying fraud is all it takes
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jan 2021

no proof needed.

Would the result be another election? In which case Biden voters would furiously turn out in droves. It would be enraging to the winner's voters, so it could cause chaos.

Iwasthere

(3,154 posts)
13. This is why he's so mad and not giving up
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jan 2021

He believed 100% that it was in the bag for him. He was convinced his cheating worked. He's beyond baffled how Biden pulled it off.

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
16. True, & it seems like most folks don't realize this.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jan 2021

From what I understand of the process:

1 Senator & 1 Representative must object to a state's electoral votes.

The joint session of Congress adjourns & each chamber debates the objection separately.

Each chamber votes to accept the objection & throw out that state's electoral votes, or reject the objection & keep the state's electoral votes. It is a simple majority vote.

For the state's electoral votes to be thrown out, BOTH chambers (House & Senate) must vote to do it. If one chamber rejects the objection, the state's electoral votes are counted.


According to legal folks I've discussed this with it's been this way since 1788 & they say that yes, a losing party could use the process to take electoral votes away from the winning candidate & basically steal the election, & it would be Constitutional & legal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. The debate will be interesting
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jan 2021

Since there is nothing to base the charge on. It'll be a lot of crap. And completely stupid.

samsingh

(17,593 posts)
21. that is true. Letting the GOP win the presidency or both chambers would be the end of democracy
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jan 2021

i hope our side understands that.

Response to samsingh (Reply #21)

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