Murkowski says no to the traitors.

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

She and others need to come over to our side.

[obamanut2012]

1. At the very least, form a different caucus

That sometimes crosses the aisle to us.

[sfstaxprep]

2. Big Deal

She's worthless.

And forget about her ever coming to our side. She's ALL IN for her party. There is not a Single repub Senator that's going to change parties.

[Kingofalldems]

6. I'd say she's worthless to the traitors for sure.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

21. I can't agree

I think we need to form a “sometimes coalition” with the centrist Republicans.

[sfstaxprep]

23. You're Right, We Do

But none of them will go along with that idea.

You're mistaking them for being people who care, and still being a part of a party that doesn't.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

24. Well she's not going along with this pile of crap

Yeah, there will be plenty of times that they disappoint us, but a few that they won’t.

[JI7]

32. This is an area where she isn't going along with them on

[sfstaxprep]

34. She Voted To Acquit Him 1 Year Ago

She's FULLY Complicit. Just like every single repub.

Can't believe I'm getting pushback on this. Guess I must be posting in the wrong thread, because I saw several active threads today saying basically that "All repubs Suck."

She protests when her protests are meaningless. And No, she's never going to leave the party that is going through with this shit show.

[JI7]

35. What does that have to do with this specific thing going on now ? I'm not claiming she is right on

everything or a liberal or anything else.

This is about this specific thing. Do you think she shouldn't oppose what they are doing because she voted to acquit him ?

[sfstaxprep]

36. I Agree With The Post Farther Down This Thread

This should be a baseline. It is NOT something that we should jump up and down about the fact she is saying a legitimate election is legitimate.

You don't get a frickin' award for accepting reality. She is still a repub. She voted to acquit him, when he DESERVED conviction. She probably even voted for him 2 months ago.

It always seems like she'll only vote for our side when it's meaningless for the final result. When it matters, she'll support Drumpf, Mitch, or anyone on the repub side.

Let me know when either she or Concerned Collins actually does something that makes a difference for the Democrats. Until then, she's useless to me.

[JI7]

37. Well, that's why people need to vote for Democrats including those like Manchin . And when it comes

Alaska someone like Manchin would be an improvement . But someone who can actually win in Alaska is going to be attacked by the usual types .

[sfstaxprep]

38. Our Candidate In Alaska Lost By Only 13%

I remember hearing how we supposedly had a slim chance of winning there.

I don't know, but 13% does not seem like a slim loss to me. Sounds like a lost cause. I'm not sure even Manchin could win there. I'm still kind of stumped at how he's able to win WV.

[BobTheSubgenius]

39. I can't help but wonder at how Alaska's political landscape might look now, if...

...unions hadn't been smashed to smithereens. At one time, in the not-that-distant past, 40% of all Alaskan workers were Teamsters. Teamsters were reliable Democratic voters.

Reagan may have been the blind pig that actually found a gigantic truffle, even if it was only coincidental.

[orleans]

41. i completely agree with you

these fucking republicans don't get a high five, an award, a pat on their fucking backs for doing the right thing (for a change!)

i'm not toasting her or congratulating her for not being a useless piece of shit "in this instance"

... on second thought--maybe i will...

Link to tweet

[AZ8theist]

42. Yup. Her and her ilk could have prevented this NIGHTMARE ...

By REMOVING the TRAITOROUS PIG DURING THE IMPEACHMENT.

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FUCK HER AND EVERY FUCKING TRAITOROUS REPUKE PIG ALIVE.

[jaxexpat]

48. In their "pea-sized" hearts they believe they're right and prepared to burn Washington to prove it.

[LakeArenal]

3. Yes. Become independent. Alaska people are fiercely independent.

[TexasBushwhacker]

56. Yes. She won one of her elections as a write in candidate

[Cha]

4. Rt.. TY!

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. I can think of 3 that could fundamentally change the political dynamic by becoming Independent

and caucusing with the Democrats. I know Collins would suffer no political consequences in ME. Murkowski and Romney wouldn't either. IMHO.

[brush]

16. I don't think Collins can be trusted at critical times. She's failed us too much.

Same with Murkowski. Romney is the only one shown some backbone.

[orleans]

40. collins is a CONSTANT FAILURE.

fuck her. fuck murkowski. fuck them all.

[ShazzieB]

44. Don't hold back now, tell us what you REALLY think! 😁

[orleans]

58. i thought i just did :P n/t

[ancianita]

49. I'm with you about them all. It's wishful thinking they'd be Indendents when they'll be too busy

trying to rehabilitate the party brand as viable. But if they think Cruz, Hawley or Graham care about that, we can use their divisions to some advantage. Biden probably knows how to get enough on our side to get things done. He'll probably sell them on how that will help them revive the dead soul of their party.

I want to see the reality based theme of 'republicans in disarray' in media more often, too, but that won't happen, either.

[scarletwoman]

7. No, I don't think they necessarily need to "come over to our side" - they need to exorcise

the seditionists from their party.

If not that, then they need to form a new party of rational non-trumpists with whom the Dems can form a coalition to oppose the trumpists.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. well said

[pazzyanne]

26. + 1 nt

[stopwastingmymoney]

30. Hear hear, I like that nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

8. Has Susie Collins opened her mouth yet?

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Shhh. She's busy writing a letter expressing "concern." nt

[roamer65]

11. There will be no commission.

The House will block all attempts at undermining the election.

[calimary]

13. They damn well better!

[marble falls]

12. Murkowski has all the back bone of Collins. Plenty of concern, then bends to Mitch's hot air.

[leftieNanner]

27. "Bends to Mitch's Hot Air"

And then smiles when Mitch's wife sends a $20 million transportation grant to her state.

[JI7]

33. Mitch McConnell doesn't support this bs move by Hawley and others who want to be President

[Pobeka]

14. Talk is cheap. Let's see some action. Switch parties. n/t

[brush]

17. I really don't want them in our party. Let them be independents...

or start their own party. They're too far right for me.

[Pobeka]

19. That's fine with me too. Anything that guarantees a Dem majority. nt

[LaMouffette]

15. I warmed to Murkowski the tiniest little bit when she was asked to describe Sarah Palin.

Murkowski hesitated, then stated flatly that she believed Palin "lacks intellectual curiosity." I think it was during a 60 Minutes interview. I thought that was the slickest way of calling someone a dumb ass that I had ever heard.

But until the last drop of oil is drained from Alaska, she is a "Drill, baby, drill!" woman, just like Palin. When push comes to shove, it's all about the oil money for Murkowski. She cannot be counted on to do the right thing. But Alaska is becoming more and more diverse and I think she is trying to play both sides of the fence and be everything to everybody in hopes of getting reelected.

[Mr.Bill]

18. Anyone who didn't vote to remove Trump from office

is not much better than the rest of them.

[brush]

20. Bingo! Romney is the only one who displayed at least half a spine.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. And they are traitors

because in my view they are trying to overturn the Constitution by extralegal means, in typically Trumpian fashion - just like seeking foreign support in an election or to manufacture dirt on your opponent.

AND, they are doing this at a time when, we are told by some members of the intelligence community, we are in a cyber war with our main adversary, and these traitors are supporting the main domestic supporter of that adversary, our Russian president.

Toomey this afternoon says he will not support the rebellion.

[mchill]

25. I wouldn't exactly call it "our side"

Or even “coming over.”

The side is the side of democracy and let’s hope they all started on that side. These scoundrels have gone to the dark side.

[Tarc]

28. While I am certainly glad she is sane...

one does not get awards for an action that should be the baseline default of human behavior.

[ShazzieB]

45. No awards, but

I AM glad she's doing this. I'm glad for every single member of congress who takes a stand against this ridiculous charade, no matter who they are or what side they're normally on.

No awards, no medals, no cookies for doing the right thing. But I'm happy to see them do it.

[bullwinkle428]

29. Well, she already has experience getting primaried by the freakzoid right. Recall

the 2010 election, when she got defeated by the tea-bagger Joe Miller in the Republican primary, and then went on to win the general election running a write-in campaign.

[shenmue]

31. Good step

[UTUSN]

43. Sigh, Senator, you don't fit over there, step on up over here.

[mnmoderatedem]

46. it's a pretty sad commentary on the Senate GOP

when something like this is something that many feel compelled to give a pat on the back.

More republican representatives seem to be going along with the madness rather than doing the right, and sane, thing.

[DFW]

47. Murkowski, Collins and Romney are all Republicans. Nothing will change that. However.....

Javits, Dirksen, Goddell, Eisenhower, Brooke, Ford, Jeffords and Specter were Republicans, too (not all remained that way). Even Goldwater and Dole were Republicans.

None of them became spoiled suicide bombers when things didn't always go their way. Today's Republicans are a new breed, a deadlier form of the virus, if you will. Like they used to say of America in the sixties and seventies, the other, "old style" Republicans should love them or leave them. They are no longer compatible.

[ancianita]

50. Well,

just to make one point about who today's Republicans are. Their breed began back with Goldwater, according to The New Yorker's Adam Gopnik, who I agree with, being old enough to vote back then. Even though Goldwater was less personally malevolent than Trump, and lost the '64 election, looking back ...

... in sweeping the Deep South, he set a victorious neo-Confederate pattern for the next four decades of American politics, including the so-called Reagan revolution. Nor were his forces naïvely libertarian. At the time, Goldwater’s ghostwriter Brent Bozell spoke approvingly of Franco’s post-Fascist Spain as spiritually far superior to decadent America, much as the highbrow Trumpites talk of the Christian regimes of Putin and Orbán.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/what-we-get-wrong-about-americas-crisis-of-democracy

The new breed's core of irrational racism and its civil war talk and skirmishes, come from the civil rights days.

[DFW]

54. Yes, I remember their fascination with Franco's Spain

I lived in Franco‘s Spain for a while, and remember Nixon‘s Consul General in Barcelona as a big right wing tool. I remember being horrified in 1970 when a right wing Senator in Washington told me he had no problem with Agnew visiting Spain on July 18, the anniversary if the Fascist uprising of 1936 that ultimately led to Franco‘s taking power.

But I also remember how, 30 years after Franco won the Civil War, Catalan was spoken everywhere in Barcelona, even though the fascists tried to stamp it out. A Republican congressman from upstate NY asked me in 1977, obviously clueless, if it was time to get concerned that the Communist Party was again allowed in Spain. I said to give it a year of neglect, and no one will even remember that they were there. He later admitted I was right. The PCE (Partido Comunista Español) was a passing fad after Franco died, nothing else.

After getting the Civil Rights Bill passed, LBJ noted that the South was lost for a generation to the Democrats. He only erred in how many generations.

[ancianita]

55. Yep, and now the new breed represents their equally accepted fascism alongside their racism.

In that sense, they're now clearly out in hybrid right wing form.

Bought by the corporate rule and ready to toss out democracy for total corporate control of government and the means of production.

We should just call them the Fascist Party, FPUS.

[Iggo]

51. Fuck Murkowski.

Fuck Romney.
Fuck McCain.
Fuck Rick Wilson.
Fuck Steve Schmidt.

Hell, while we're at it, Fuck Ron Paul.

Every one of those motherfuckers is why we're here. Fuck 'em all.

[live love laugh]

53. 💯💯. This . What you said .... nt

[turbinetree]

52. She's about a year late if memory serves me correctly...............

you know when she had the chance to remove a traitor..............go the fuck away.............resign...........

[BobTheSubgenius]

57. She says "No." Until she says "Maybe."

Or formally makes up her mind by backing whatever nonsense the GOP is up to, currently.