House and Senate Members will not be under oath on the 6th for their debate

[bottomofthehill]

Worse, they will be covered by the Speech and Debate Clause so will continue to lie through their teeth.

[efhmc]

1. Being under oath matters absolutely nothing to them so whatever.

[Plectranthus]

2. Oh my fucking god

We are fucked

[obamanut2012]

4. lolz

[Enterstageleft]

3. They are under oath when the swear to uphold the Constitution...

You see how much good that does!

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. Debates in congress are never under oath

Furthermore, even when in hearings, when witnesses are sworn in, legislators are not.

That is the way it goes.

[brush]

6. They can lie all they want to prolong the proceedings but Joe and Kamala...

will be sworn in on the 20th.

Period.

[tritsofme]

7. I guess I am confused why you think members constitutional protections would be suspended

during this process?

[bottomofthehill]

8. I did not think they would be suspended

I just pointed out the fact that they will continue to lie through their teeth and be protected.

[Boomerproud]

17. The Dems should use their time to shred these oafs.

Won't be watching the Kabuki theatre.

[quaker bill]

9. That is the whole point

they can't present their 'fraud' in court under oath, this is the one big venue where they can air all the BS out without perjury charges. The ghost of Hugo Chavez will ride again!

[former9thward]

10. When are any Senators or House members "under oath"?

[Klaralven]

11. But for any given state, they can only speak for 5 minutes within a space of 2 hours.

Nothing of substance will be presented.

[Baclava]

12. Wait, so any state that wants to talk gets 2 hours? Is that for both House and Senate?

Is that what you mean? They be yakking for a week!

[StarfishSaver]

13. No.

Each member/senator can only speak once for maximum of five minutes. And the total time for debate is limited to two hours.

[Baclava]

16. I heard so many things

[bottomofthehill]

14. Each state that gets objected to gets 2 hours of Debate

The joint session must recess, the senate must return to the senate chamber to debate and the house must debate then they both vote then the senate returns to the house chamber the joint session is re convened the vote is reported by each house and then they go on to the next state until objection is heard and is presented in writing to the presiding officer then the whole process repeats itself. Should take about 4 hours total per state objected to so if they object to AZ, GA, NV, MI, PA, and WI could take about 24 hours. It will not change the outcome and actually, the objection will probably fail in both houses but it will take time. Someone may have a long day on Wed if these fools play out the whole string.

[Klaralven]

15. If there is a challenge regarding a state, such as PA, they retire to their own chambers to vote

Debate in each chamber is limited to 2 hours. During the 2 hours, each congressman who speaks is allotted 5 minutes.

So each slate of electors that is challenged will take about 3 hours to resolve, given that it must take some time for the Senators to amble back and forth between the House and the Senate chambers.

[bottomofthehill]

18. Senators are old, the walk with a bathroom break back and forth will take a few.

The House takes a good hour to vote. It will be closer to 4 hours per objection.

[StarfishSaver]

19. It probably won't take that long

They don't have to wait for all of the senators and congresspersons to get back to their chamber to start the debate. They can start as soon as there is a quorum.

And House votes only take about 15 minutes. If Pelosi cracks a whip, it should take well under three hours. And the Senate can go even quicker.

[bottomofthehill]

20. Pre Covid house votes took 15 minutes

Covid House votes take over an hour. There are 7 groups of roughly 70 members at 10 minute intervals to ensure social distancing on the Floor of the House.

It took just about 3 hours when Congresswoman Tubbs-Jones and Senator Boxer objected in 2004 and that was when a 15 minute vote was actually close ton15 minutes.

The House gets sworn in tomorrow, watch how long it takes to establish a quorum and to vote for the Speaker. Then you will have n idea of what Wednesday holds if they object to 6 states. It will be close to 24 hours.

[StarfishSaver]

21. I forgot about the new timeframe for voting

But I still don't think it will take 4 hours per state. They should be able to allow proxy voting, allowing some Members to vote remotely, which will speed things up.

I wonder if they can agree to have all of the objections dealt with at the same proceeding, eliminating the need for both chambers to gather the joint session, recess upon an objection, debate, vote, then gather again for the next states, and donut all over again. Not sure if that's possible, but if it is, they'll likely do it that way since neither McConnell nor Pelosi want this dragged out any longer than necessary and will try to keep this moving as quickly as possible.

[onenote]

22. I believe in the House, the rule will be 1 hour per side

And I expect the Democrats will not use their entire time, nor will they yield it to the Republicans. If so, they can cut the time substantially.

[bottomofthehill]

24. Nope two hours same rules as always.

[bottomofthehill]

25. Sorry, did not correctly read your text

Correct one hour per side. Hopefully the democrats will not use all of their time.

[bottomofthehill]

23. Proxy voting is a possibility

But each state sets its two hours in the order they are called.

[bluestarone]

26. How do they decide which states go first?

[bottomofthehill]

27. Its actually alphabetical order. First state with possible vote is AZ

[bluestarone]

28. AH, ok TY