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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Jack Welch is about to Croak on Hardball/Chris Matthews Show
Looking like an old fool.
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)GET HIM!
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)His temper tantrum the other night was a fucking disgrace.
elleng
(141,926 posts)happens ALL the time.
CTyankee
(68,152 posts)We sure didn't need it, to say the least!
Nice to see him calmed down now. He's all smiles with these BLS numbers...
How is Powell doing against Cantor?
elleng
(141,926 posts)but anecdotally, letters to editors/journalists in papers reviewing debate etc. are UNIFORMLY pro-Powell and anti-cantor, hundreds of 'likes' and fb comments.
Attending rally tomorrow, first and only BIG event, so will see what crowd looks like and what kind of coverage it gets.
Thanks for asking.
INdemo
(7,024 posts)Its time to move on..
What he needs to do is watch a full length video of the Presidents campaign in Colo. and VA..
All is well...
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)kentuck
(115,391 posts)Most MSNBC folks don't talk to him like Chris is doing.
and if I recall correctly Tweety owns a house just down the lane from Jack on Martha's Vineyard.
spanone
(141,519 posts)fuck you jack.
i don't know you but you are a partisan asshole.
regarding his tweet 'i have no evidence to prove it'
'it seems coincidental that the number is 7.8'
again, fuck you jack
Cha
(318,800 posts)see for his guy mitt so they're "cooked".
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)I'm thinking that he had some money in that game and was surprised this morning when the fix was not in. That's why he had a meltdown. Another silly old white man huffing and puffing.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)He's freaking me out. He looks and sounds sick. And nuts. Definitely, nuts.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)For those of us not in front of a TV. Thank you in advance
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)supposedly (I doubt he did it himself) sent out a tweet alleging that the UE report was fake and blamed the "Chicago guys".
And he's doubling down on his nonsense.
avebury
(11,196 posts)that does not pay taxes.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)He says now he has no proof, but he wonders and his tweet was just a question. Except it wasn't. It was a statement saying the numbers were cooked by crooked Chicago politicians and Obama used them because he can't debate.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
elleng
(141,926 posts)basically suggesting 'conspiracy' (my word) re: today's job numbers.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)Tweety is asking how the president got to the bureau of labor statistics.
And welch's voice is really bad. Like they just pulled the trach tube out before they brought him over from the nursing home.
Cha
(318,800 posts)Even Better! Thanks Jack
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)Surprised as GE was and is a pretty good company. Don't usually watch matthews; friend asked us to, but I've muted welch.
Nostradammit
(2,921 posts)Bovine Excrement.
GE has a history of some of its activities giving rise to large-scale air and water pollution. Based on year 2000 data,[48] researchers at the Political Economy Research Institute listed the corporation as the fourth-largest corporate producer of air pollution in the United States, with more than 4.4 million pounds per year (2,000 tons) of toxic chemicals released into the air.[49] GE has also been implicated in the creation of toxic waste. According to EPA documents, only the United States Government, Honeywell, and Chevron Corporation are responsible for producing more Superfund toxic waste sites.[50]
In 1983, New York State Attorney General Robert Abrams filed suit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of New York to compel GE to pay for the cleanup of what was claimed to be more than 100,000 tons of chemicals dumped (legally, at the time) from their plant in Waterford, New York.[51] In 1999, the company agreed to pay a $250 million settlement in connection with claims it polluted the Housatonic River (Pittsfield, Massachusetts) and other sites with polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) and other hazardous substances.[52]
From approximately 1947 to 1977, GE discharged as much as 1.3 million pounds of PCBs from its capacitor manufacturing plants at the Hudson Falls and Fort Edward upstate New York facilities into the Hudson River.[53] GE fought a media and political battle to avoid cleaning up the river and countered that dredging the river would actually stir up PCBs.[54] In 2002, GE was ordered to clean up a 40-mile (64 km) stretch of the Hudson River it had contaminated.[55]
In 2003, acting on concerns that the plan proposed by GE did not "provide for adequate protection of public health and the environment," the United States Environmental Protection Agency issued a unilateral administrative order for the company to "address cleanup at the GE site" in Rome, Georgia, also contaminated with PCBs.[56]
The nuclear reactors involved in the 2011 crisis at Fukushima I in Japan are GE designs,[57] and the architectural designs were done by Ebasco,[58] formerly owned by GE. Concerns over the design and safety of these reactors were raised as early as 1975.[59]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric
amuse bouche
(3,672 posts)People need to be reminded that old Jack was a vile polluter. What a disgusting pig
JI7
(93,558 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Yeah, they do. Twisted in all kinds of ways, too, no doubt.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Welch and my parents understand the post WW2 era and today's world is considerably different.
They just really don't understand a lot of things.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)I've been very impressed, really.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)He's irrelevant and his time has passed.
It just makes Matthews look spiteful.
catbyte
(39,112 posts)I'm glad Tweety nailed his ass to the wall.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Young people rarely understand that, though.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)And I don't think Tweety was spiteful. In fact, he kept saying how much he liked Welch and how he was sure Welch would revisit this later and change his mind. Especially since Welch predicted 7.9% which is damn close to 7.8%! That was funny!
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)He should have known better, especially after Clint Eastwood.
I know Eastwood's head was on right, unlike many other people, but Eastwood doesn't understand the world now, how much more conformist it's become, how easy it is to twist uncoformity into "an issue".
Welch's mentality was shaped by an economy which was production-constrained.
Today's economy is not production-constrained, it's consumption-constrained and he's never seen that and doesn't understand it.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Good points about Welch and Eastwood, btw. I hadn't considered the issue of constraints on Welch's POV. Although, to be honest, I think he was determined to tweet something, anything, in support of Willard. His own guess of 7.9% is .1% off of the actual numbers and he's screaming conspiracy?? lol
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)And I know from my own experience in the job market and dealing with 30-year-olds.
You and I, all of us, are raised in a certain context that sets basic belief parameters. And everything else is built upon those over time and there very, very difficult to change.
My parents hate Obama with a passion and it can only be from listening to Rush, Beck, etc.
They really do not understand how much the world has changed since 2001.
pacalo
(24,856 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Godless in Seattle
(120 posts)His words sound like an old man hitting senility.
malaise
(295,742 posts)Not one shred of evidence - fuck him.
DURHAM D
(33,053 posts)is letting this guy show his ignorant ass on the tv.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)The old guy is gonna stroke out on TV. Lol! He keeps saying, "C'mon, Chris!"
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)And bragged about how much money he made for them.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)A guy who has the experience to know better.
That's the way I read it.
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Although, I think Welch will scarper off to Faux asap. He didn't look good on Tweety's show. He wants to score points for Willard.
Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to Faux he goes!
BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)Maybe Neil Cavuto.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,272 posts)but I did find it and I think Tweety would have been the 1st to get him live - being NBC Universal was Welch's former property. Anderson comes on @ 8 ET.
IMHO, Anderson doesn't belong on the Conservative News Network but I think he has some clout thanks to his Mom.
PA Democrat
(13,428 posts)He is not cutting him any slack. Asks Welch for proof of his accusation that the numbers were cooked. And gave him several opportunities to retract his accusation.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)swayne
(383 posts)Bigleaf
(2,050 posts)Fucking beat it, asswipe!!
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)called a liar over the past few days.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)That has brought them close.
doublethink
(7,331 posts)best take-away clip from that encounter.
spanone
(141,519 posts)these are serious allegations. he's a total fucking wingnut
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)I am so going to hell...
spanone
(141,519 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)porphyrian
(18,530 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)spanone
(141,519 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)He should have a few things to say about this.
Cirque du So-What
(29,695 posts)when the old bastid finally croaks for real. As Mark Twain said, 'I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.'
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....his performance after the debate has been a major negative spectacle, IMHO. He's done nothing but give aid and comfort to the enemy.
The same goes for Bighead Ed.