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Olivia Troye responds to Trump's tweet attacking the CDC (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2021 OP
The death toll rises under Trump until 1/20 ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2021 #1
Exactly. And he has never acknowledged that CV-19 is rampant due to his failure to act. nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #5
Far from it! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #11
"Coulda Been 2 Million" ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #14
I'm Sure He'll Find Some Way To Blame Biden COL Mustard Jan 2021 #7
This is why we must start calling it the 'TrumpFlu' Tommymac Jan 2021 #12
It's the #TrumpVirus on twitter and instagram. nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #13
Thanks - that works! Tommymac Jan 2021 #16
Yep musclecar6 Jan 2021 #2
STFU Killa malaise Jan 2021 #3
I Think He Actually Said 200,000 COL Mustard Jan 2021 #8
No it was 2.2 million and he said it more than once malaise Jan 2021 #9
Wives, mothers, girlfriends, women bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #4
Rises in the death rate after 1/20 are still due to Trump RockCreek Jan 2021 #6
What Trump Is Saying DallasNE Jan 2021 #10
It's Up ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #15

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,898 posts)
1. The death toll rises under Trump until 1/20
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jan 2021

Donald Trump ceases to be POTUS on January 20th.

Until then, the daily death toll rises and he HATES those numbers because they reflect his FAILURE on combatting COVID-19 from the very beginning.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
11. Far from it!
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jan 2021

He still rates his administration's COVID strategy and its execution as excellent. Or tippy-top, or whatever nonsense he said.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
14. "Coulda Been 2 Million"
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

Of course, he's not going to accept that his response was the problem.
He still thinks he saved 1.6 million lives.

COL Mustard

(8,224 posts)
7. I'm Sure He'll Find Some Way To Blame Biden
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

For the deaths that occurred during his watch...."I was too busy campaigning to pay attention....I was impeached and couldn't focus on what the medical people were saying...Biden caused all the civil unrest in May and June...."

Believe me, he's got a million of them and the goobers will jump right in.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
12. This is why we must start calling it the 'TrumpFlu'
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

Make no doubt about who is responsible for this murderous mess.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
2. Yep
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:17 AM
Jan 2021


The con man, liar and cheat never stops disingenuous manipulation. In 17 days his reign of terror ends.

malaise

(296,118 posts)
3. STFU Killa
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jan 2021

You are responsible for the deaths and infections.

Didn't this fucking ignorant asshole of a criminal say that if the deaths didn't reach two million things would have been going well?

add

malaise

(296,118 posts)
9. No it was 2.2 million and he said it more than once
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244395#blogHeader
Fact check: Trump says 2.2 million people were projected to die from Covid-19
Trump, defending his administration's pandemic response, claimed Thursday that "2.2 million people — modeled out — were expected to die" from the coronavirus.

Trump has made this claim previously — that original projections for coronavirus deaths in America said the country would lose 2.2 million people to the virus.

This is misleading. Trump is referring to a model published on March 17 by Imperial College London, which did predict that 2.2 million people in America could die from the virus, but only if no mitigation efforts whatsoever were in place.

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
4. Wives, mothers, girlfriends, women
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 12:09 PM
Jan 2021

may hold the key to reducing or preventing violence. She posted good advice.

RockCreek

(1,471 posts)
6. Rises in the death rate after 1/20 are still due to Trump
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

People who contracted the disease when he was president
And
All those people who who never would have contracted the disease if he had just let other people do their jobs in containing COVID.

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
10. What Trump Is Saying
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

Is that a lot of the deaths attributed to Covid-19 should be attributed to other causes, such as cancer or heart failure. So look at the pattern for cancer and heart failure. The data is available. If the trend line for 2020 shows an unexplained decrease then Trump may have a point. But if the trend line is steady then Trump is wrong. But the trend line could also be up, in which case it would suggest that many deaths are related to cancer that rightfully need to be listed as Covid-19. Indeed, based on the data on excess deaths if points out the fact that there is a serious undercounting of Covid-19 caused deaths. The excess deaths is 432,000 and the reported Covid-19 deaths are 350,000. That means the odds are high that Covid-19 deaths are undercounted by around 82,000. This probably reflects political pressure to assure that if it is not conclusive it is Covid-19 then attribute it to something else. Trump is, once again, simply wrong.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
15. It's Up
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:42 PM
Jan 2021

Actuaries & the CDC are seeing unanticipated deaths are up by an amount that represents 20-30% above those explained by known COVID deaths.
When it was 350,000 known, the unexpected deaths were around 430,000.
There was a post here yesterday about it, and I've been hearing that same estimate from 3 actuarial folks I know, since around May.

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