George Conway thread on some Trump supporters planning to physically block Democrats from Capitol

[highplainsdem]

I'd wondered if any of them were planning this, and if this possibility was part of the reason Trump's encouraging the rally on the 6th.

According to Conway, they have been talking about this, including bringing guns.


Thread starts here, full text below -- and the parts in quotes are from the Daily Beast story Conway's referencing, which is behind a paywall:

Link to tweet

"Two people familiar with the matter say that in recent days, Trump has told advisers and close associates that he wants to keep fighting in court past Jan. 6 if members of Congress, as expected, end up certifying the electoral college results."

Link to tweet

"'Must block Dem and [Republicans in Name Only],' one planning graphic posted on pro-Trump forum 'The Donald' read, showing a map of key streets around Congress that protesters want to obstruct. 'There’s 535 politicians and ~3500 guards.'"




"Protesters plan to meet in the northeast corner of the Capitol complex, where they’ll hear from a list of speakers that includes Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ), Trump adviser Roger Stone, and Rep-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), who has supported the QAnon conspiracy theory."




"Trump has promoted the protest on Twitter, urging his supporters to attend.
'Be there, will be wild!' Trump tweeted on Dec. 19."




"Among Trump’s most devoted followers the idea that he would continue fighting on, even after the 6th, is a no-brainer."




"'You can’t give up,' MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, a Trump ally who has funded and spoken at several efforts to challenge the 2020 election .... 'If these people [around the president] don’t end up standing up, they are just as bad as the people who tried to commit the crime.'"




"For Lindell, the push to overturn the election results is not just a matter of politics but of religion as well.
'God chose Donald Trump for eight years, not four,' he said, adding that 'even if Biden is inaugurated, there’s no statute of limitations [on election theft].'"




"The protesters’ mood ahead of the Jan. 6 protest has turned even more desperate.
Trump diehards from across the country have organized their travel to Washington on 'The Donald' forum."




"One of the hottest topics on the site is how protesters can bring guns to D.C., which would count as a local crime in nearly all circumstances under Washington’s strict gun laws."



"Others have talked about breaking into federal buildings or committing violence against law enforcement officers who try to stop them from storming Congress."




"'I'm thinking it will be literal war on that day,' one popular comment posted last Wednesday read. 'Where we’ll storm offices and physically remove and even kill all the D.C. traitors and reclaim the country.'"

[FarPoint]

1. There are other access routes to the Capitol.

Underground....

[Arne]

5. Many have reached the depths of depravity and even if this insurrection is stifled

I fear something terrible is coming.
(Sorry for the doom n gloom)

[cilla4progress]

2. I've always expected this ends

in violence.

[sop]

3. At what point is this no longer Free Speech, and when does it become terrorism?

[hadEnuf]

10. It is planned terrorism.

And it's getting time that these terrorist scum are put down.

C'mon fascists, make your moves. We're waiting for you.

[Lochloosa]

4. Bring a gun to DC. That will work out well for them.

Assholes.

[HipChick]

6. Yeah..goodluck with that

bringing guns to DC?

[malaise]

18. Funny how the coward loser always sends others

while posing as a general
Happy New Year HipChick!

[rusty fender]

38. And then the Coward-in-Chief

will deny that he had anything to do with the resulting shit show

[malaise]

39. Of course

He should be locked up in a padded room

[True Blue American]

7. I hope they do

And the Police arrest them, take them into custody.

[Doodley]

8. I wish a lawmaker/s would stand up in congress and say "If there are lawmakers here

who refuse to accept the democratic process and the will of the people, then get the hell out of here."

[malaise]

40. I want to know how many of them were on the same ballot

as the lunatic monster.

[scarletwoman]

43. Every single member of the House was on the same ballot - they have to get re-elected every 2 years.

[malaise]

45. So are they saying that they were elected by fraud too then?

Asking for a friend

Happy New Year Scarletwoman

[Paladin]

9. I hope area law enforcement is well-armed and ready for this.

If insurrectionist blood needs to be shed to install the new administration, that suits me fine.

[hadEnuf]

13. They need to learn that there are severe consequences for sedition.

And it is sedition.

[Paladin]

22. The radical right wing has gone unpunished for way too long.

Long past time for a suitable, effective response. Something that leaves a mark and remains in the memory.

[sop]

23. What was all that stuff about "watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots"?

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Toxic ☠️ pillow selling guy is a Christian. Sure.

[FSogol]

25. Those damn voters going against God and Lindells wishes!

[TheBlackAdder]

26. If only GOD was powerful enough to have stopped this mess in the first place. 🤡

.

These idiots call on God to help them out by micromanaging every facet of their lives...

Yet, he/she can't pull this off?

.

[FSogol]

28. If only God had a better mouthpiece than the MyPillow guy.

[TheBlackAdder]

31. An excuse profered is that is how God works, by allowing flawed people to see the light.

.

Someone who is not flawed, and closer to a divine creation, surely cannot be a mouthpiece.

Only someone with many flaws, who rights the wrongs of their lives are truly touched by God.

.

[FSogol]

33. He's touched alright. Not sure god had anything to do with it. n/t

[mopinko]

30. a lot of ex junkies dont go clean, they just get addicted to the sky daddy.

seen it many times. gw bush, for 1.

[TheBlackAdder]

32. Yep. It replaces one vice for another. Like how most also smoke.

[mopinko]

36. my BIL substituted food.

he weight 400 lbs now. my poor sister. for a while she had a real partner. now she has a patient.

[RKP5637]

12. IMO for a good many of them they want a standoff with their guns and violence is a game to them,

like a Trump reality show. They are in it for the violence and Trump gives them an excuse to play this out. Big guns and little demented people who have been sucked in by the con artist leader of the cult. It's akin to mass psychological hysteria. For example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases

[hadEnuf]

17. Trump is simply the enabler for what these vermin have been wanting to do for decades

when you really think about it.

[RKP5637]

20. Yep, exactly what I think is going on too. He gives them the reason/excuse. He's the best enabler

that's come along.

[struggle4progress]

14. 18 USC 115

(a)

(1)Whoever —

(A)assaults, kidnaps, or murders, or attempts or conspires to kidnap or murder, or threatens to assault, kidnap or murder a member of the immediate family of a United States official, a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official whose killing would be a crime under section 1114 of this title; or

(B)threatens to assault, kidnap, or murder, a United States official, a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official whose killing would be a crime under such section,
with intent to impede, intimidate, or interfere with such official, judge, or law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties, or with intent to retaliate against such official, judge, or law enforcement officer on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/115

[struggle4progress]

15. 18 USC 1505

... Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1505

[struggle4progress]

16. 18 USC 1512

... (d)Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from —

(1)attending or testifying in an official proceeding ...

or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 3 years, or both ...,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512

[EndlessWire]

47. And each one has it's own prison time

so the aggregate prison time could be quite horrifying.

[niyad]

19. My thanks to DU'ers who keep us familiar with the relevant laws and statutes.

[2naSalit]

21. Did they actually secure a permit to assemble?

[Mike 03]

24. A few days ago a DUer posted about people on Parler trying to figure out ways

to smuggle guns into these protests.

[mopinko]

37. up their asses works for me.

[EndlessWire]

46. LOL! n/t

[skip fox]

27. We think of Republicans as our opponent while we are their "enemies."

That's a portion of mainstream Republican. That means that when they are planning or executing a plan, they aren't hobbled by moral concerns.

You post deals with the large fringe and they don't ever have moral constraints in dealing with others, opponents or enemies.

Thanks for the post. We have to keep our eyes open.

[PSPS]

29. "physically block Democrats from Capitol". These guys apparently don't know how it works.

[Turin_C3PO]

34. Lol good luck with that.

These cretins won’t get anywhere close to the Capitol building.

[madamesilverspurs]

35. Why the heck

does that pic feature former Colorado Dem senator Mark Udall?


.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. Can we call it sedition yet?

I at least hope to see mass arrests taking place. Maybe they'll try to kill some cops, and we'll get to see a slaughter. I'd be down for that.

[bucolic_frolic]

42. It's been brewing a long time

best if the pustule is lanced. We are at a crossroads of our Constitution, our democratic republic, our rule of law legal system on the one hand, versus a pending coup, sedition, an attempt to replace the U.S.A. with a different set of rules to please the conspirators. Unfortunately some of the conspirators wear a hat from both sides.

[maryellen99]

44. Can Roger Stone's pardon be revoked?