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Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:30 PM

Washington Post releases recording to Trump's

conversation with Rafensberger (Sec. of state/GA) - what a fucking criminal:


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Reply Washington Post releases recording to Trump's (Original post)
choie Jan 3 OP
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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:34 PM

1. Kick


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:58 PM

19. Fuhgedaboutit!

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Response to sandensea (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:05 PM

28. +1. He learned from the best

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:09 PM

34. He sho' did

Fat Tony - and the "world's most evil man" Roy Cohn.



"Distract and deflect, Donald - deflect!"

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Response to sandensea (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:06 PM

74. Who is that man?

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Response to Karadeniz (Reply #74)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:15 PM

129. Fat Tony Salerno

Genovese family boss during the early 1980s - and reputedly Cheeto's main source for construction materials and other related services such as rubble disposal, the 'disappearance' of whistle-blowers, etc.

You know: the usual stuff.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:06 PM

128. Don Trumpleone.

Capomandamento of the Trump Crime Family.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #128)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:18 PM

131. Here's hoping he ends up like John Gotti

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Response to sandensea (Reply #131)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:59 PM

138. I'll drink to that.

However, I fear that prosecuting Trump as the mobster he is, would be too harsh an admission for most to handle. The majority of politicians, even Dems, will balk at the stark truth it will tell if it's handled as it should be and justice prevails.

Never mind that fact that allowing white collar criminals like Trump to get away with murder. while shooting certain people for possibly stealing a cigar, or whatever the fuck, is a far worse and shameful admission about what we claim to be the greatest democracy on earth--or "democratic republic", as I'd be reminded by those who are nevertheless 100% behind USA's wars and assassinations supposedly meant to spread USA-style democracy throughout the world.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:34 PM

2. oh boy

tRump again is adding more illegal deeds to his long list. Fuck him. More crimes have been committed.

Twisting arms are we???? You thug.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:36 PM

4. Jesus...

Heís a discount Don Corleone.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:38 PM

53. Nailed it

John Dean is correct - he is shameless

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Response to malaise (Reply #53)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:30 PM

123. At Least Raffensperger Showed Courage

I was glad to see that.

Perhaps we'll be okay after Wednesday, and for sure after 1/20.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #123)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:17 PM

130. He has been excellent

from November - heard someone on CNN say he's Trump's John Dean.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #123)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:54 PM

137. Perhaps. That is definitely what every sane person is hoping for.

I fear that it will only be temporary respite, though. It might not take much to bring it all back, but stronger and faster than it was this time. They have templates.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:34 PM

97. He is too!

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:31 PM

124. The irony (for those of us who remember irony) that

if you said that to his face, the word "discount" would be his main, possibly his only objection. But it's right on the money.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:05 AM

159. I have only one word to describe that call...

DEE.

LOU.

SHUN.

ALL.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, DOTURD........HOLY FUCKING SHIT.....

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:36 PM

3. Mother.

I got steam coming out of my ears.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:37 PM

5. Wow is right.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:37 PM

6. It was a great call. Some people say it was perfect.

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Response to underpants (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:39 PM

7. was it

perfect enough to get his ass out now? Just wow, he is so desperate isn't he????

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:40 PM

8. The most pathetic loser there ever was. Number 1 pathetic loser for sure.

He lost bigly.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:59 PM

145. Nobody's Going To Invoke The 25th Amendment At This Stage

Think Pence would start it? What Cabinet secretaries would sign on? No moral courage in this Administration since Jim Mattis left.

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Response to underpants (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:40 PM

9. Perfect AND beautiful


The most beautiful phone call, in fact


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:42 PM

10. Well yeah, the beautiful part almost goes without saying

Because, you know, him.

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Response to underpants (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:12 PM

149. Of course.

Everything connected with him is "beautiful," right?

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:35 PM

98. This is equivalent to Nixon's tapes & as damning as it gets. This corrupt Conman MUST be prosecuted

in 17 days.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:44 PM

11. words that come to mind - "mentally ill" "criminal" "thug" "dangerous"

This is what a mob boss does. It is a pressure play. There are veiled threats. There are blatant lies.

Mostly - this is a monster that no one ever has said "no" to, and the country, through a clean election, has finally said "no".

Throw the fucking asshole in jail and throw away the key.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:47 PM

12. Did he "misspeak" for the duration of the call or was he "joking" again?

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:50 PM

13. So this actually sounds like it was very recent. Is that so? No date is given, but tRump at the

end says "you have a big election coming up Tuesday" which he wouldn't have said if it wasn't within the last couple of days.

Don't know whether a court of law would say it is attempted blackmail. The words "I'm putting you on notice" are the closest thing, but not sure how that would be interpreted, i.e., on notice of what? That wasn't specified. tRump (or actually his lawyers) would just argue that he was just letting the GA SOS know clearly that he wasn't happy by that word choice, that there was no threat real or implied.

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Response to KPN (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:53 PM

15. Saturday

I believe the Washington Post story said it was from yesterday (Saturday).

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Response to WinkelTripel (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:55 PM

16. Wow! I have no words other than unbelievable.

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Response to KPN (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:00 PM

20. I didn't hear blackmail

I heard desperate begging

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:02 PM

24. Yeah -- he tried to bully a bit but there was no substantive threat beyond a meaniingless "I'm

putting you on notice". Hard to prove that implies anything specifically.

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Response to KPN (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:01 PM

71. But he's saying "My peeps won't vote unless you agree

with me" that there was fraud. So, that sounds like a threat. Not sure how bad that would be for Raffen.

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:37 PM

100. i heard GOADING and PRESSURING, which is akin to blackmail

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:47 PM

127. 'You have an election coming up,

itíd be a shame if something happened to ití is what I heard. He doesnít have enough ammunition for a real threat, but his instinct is to try.

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:18 PM

132. He threatened him though by accusing him of committing a crime

and then Trump followed up his accusations with request to find votes. Very serious when it comes from most powerful official in the country who is in charge of the Justice Dept.

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Response to KPN (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:06 PM

73. Remember Cohen's testimony...

where he said "he speaks in a code that those around him understand". Just like a mobster.

If anybody else tried that their ass would be in court and then jail.

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Response to KPN (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:20 PM

87. Tuesday is the Senate run-off

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Response to KPN (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:30 PM

151. Trump referenced recent activity

He mentions that the upcoming runoff election is ďnext weekĒ. So that means he called in the last few days.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:52 PM

14. Criminal. n/t

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:55 PM

17. he is scared shtiless and desperate. n/t

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:57 PM

18. This should be enough to charge him.

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Response to Mickju (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:31 PM

46. For what? Nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:21 PM

118. This

Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
Hey, fun fact, threatening an elections official with criminal prosecution unless he rigs an election in your favor is not just impeachable but a federal crime

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Response to Mickju (Reply #118)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:26 PM

121. This

Indeed

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:35 PM

153. Are you disappointed?

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:01 PM

21. We'd better not just look the other way

Democracy is at stake. Not the time for lukewarm handshakes across-the-aisle. We need to get dead serious.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:01 PM

22. I'm hoping this gets some legs.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:01 PM

23. That's a nice little career you go there, Raffensberger.

Itíd be an awful shame if somethingí was to happen to it. So just do me this one little favor and everythng will be just hunky-dopey. Know what I mean?

Raffensberger and Germany know that ďpresidentĒ is on his way out and, therefore, carries no political weight any longer. They were careful in their rebuttal of Trumpís lies and false allegations, however, and didnít even suggest to him that what he was doing was almost certainly criminal. But they held their ground. So Kudos to them both.

Trump should go to jail for so many things. But this is a glaring one. A crime committed in full daylight with audio evidence. Pity is, he wonít be called to account for it by the Law.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:03 PM

25. That boy doesn't have all his dogs barking

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #25)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:04 PM

26. He has no dogs.

NT

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Response to LisaL (Reply #26)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:05 PM

29. ...

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:05 PM

27. Prosecutors have a lot of raw material on that

no-so-veiled threats.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:06 PM

30. This is trumps legacy for the history books

Spineless slug.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:08 PM

31. I try to imagine the Georgians sitting in a conference room,

masked, glancing at their colleagues and rolling their eyes at his never ending bullshit. They are way too respectful.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:08 PM

32. Unbelievable!

It truly is like a scene from "The Godfather".

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:08 PM

33. Just when you think you can't be shocked by him anymore, wow

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:10 PM

35. MSNBC now covering this. How is this not TREASON??

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Response to vapor2 (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:56 PM

66. It doesn't rise to treason, but it certainly is corrupt and unamerican. nt

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:11 PM

80. If he's trying to get people to overturn an election... Part of the constitutional and government

Process...would it qualify as sedition?

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Response to Karadeniz (Reply #80)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:48 PM

144. Sedition, sure. Treason, no. nt

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:52 PM

106. You sound like many of the pundits on MSM. No, this is criminal.

Not just 'corrupt'. Give us a break.

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Response to triron (Reply #106)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:47 PM

143. Criminal sure. Treason, no. nt

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #66)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:10 PM

148. Isn't This Close To Extortion?

I think it does.

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #148)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:48 PM

154. Extortion, sure. Treason, no. nt

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:12 PM

36. He is a gangster who's seeing imminent prison time creeping in.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:13 PM

37. Mobster

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:16 PM

38. Someone

needs to pull the plug, on their Frankenstein.

Couldnít happen to a nicer party.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:18 PM

39. It was recorded! Wow! That's huge!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:10 PM

79. Willing to bet that there are 100's if not 1000's

of taped conversations with Trump out there made by all the people he's called. I'll bet, too, that almost everyone who talks to him now is recording it.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:51 PM

105. In GA, only one side has to know a recording is being made for it to be legal.

I'm guessing the other side was trump!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:19 PM

40. A reminder that this Poseur was impeached for quid-pro-quo.

Withholding military aid to an ally which was approved by Congress in order to try to extort negative press on a domestic political opponent who is now the President-elect of the USA.

He however was kept in office which has ultimately resulted in the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands of American citizens.

The Republican enablers did this and should be held accountable.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:21 PM

41. Trump is much too stupid to know this 4min 20 second tape will be his legacy forever...

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #41)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:35 PM

50. I'm an old hippie and find magic in the numbers "420"

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:42 PM

57. Hehe

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:54 PM

109. heehee

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:21 PM

42. When he says to re-examine or it's going to be "very costly in many ways" that's threatening

What a low class scum.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:23 PM

43. Did I hear him correctly

He says in once sentence that the people of Georgia aren't going to vote (because they're so angry),then in the next sentence he says people are going to vote.

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Response to onlyadream (Reply #43)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:43 PM

58. And he's supposed to be coming to GA tomorrow to campaign.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #58)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:55 PM

65. Hmm... That will be interesting...

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #58)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:29 PM

92. Wouldn't it be a wonderful photo op

If a crowd formed in Georgia, on every runway, of every airport, that AirForceOne could land on.......ROFLMAO.......

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:29 PM

44. "Hey Donald, do YOU think its possible

that you are a big loser? And that the majority of the voters didn't vote for you?" I'm sure that's what the Georgia Secretary of State was thinking and wanted to say.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:30 PM

45. Also being covered on CNN.

Will they ever charge tRump with crimes after he's out of office?

I know NY state AG's are working on a lot of cases against him but what about his federal offenses?

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:31 PM

47. OMG, what a frickin criminal... nothing new, I know... but I'm *SO* glad it was recorded!!

There's got to be more of this out there. You know GA can't be the only state to receive these calls.

I wonder if Ducey got calls... While he mostly resisted drump and spoke up for (in defense of) mail-in ballots and election integrity here in AZ, he was also trying to kiss butt and appease him.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:34 PM

48. TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!

But only if they're GOP ES&S brand voting machines (it's how Moscow Mitch keeps winning reelection with 18% approval).

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:35 PM

49. TREASON! Slap him in irons and haul him off to Leavenworth to await trial and execution. TRAITOR!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:35 PM

51. Criminal.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:37 PM

52. Holy f ing shit n/t

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:38 PM

54. Wow!

Thatís some heavy fishing tRump is doin!! Fuckin lock his fat ass up!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:39 PM

55. So damn disgusting. Will be so happy when this criminal thug is out of our White House. nt

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:41 PM

56. I dont hear any blackmail attempt. I just hear an idiot blathering.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #56)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:46 PM

60. See post 42

Also. This is not the entire recording. Just excerpts...
Likely the only thing us commoners will get access to. We havenít heard the whole thing and we wonít. They probably put some juicy shit out there but some may be for law enforcement/grand jury ears only. Idk. But it is possible. He sure steps right up to the line in the excerpts.

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:09 PM

77. The real question is...

Does this or did he violate any State Crimes?

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:09 PM

78. The real question is...

Does this or did he violate any State Crimes?

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #56)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:11 PM

81. I don't hear blackmail, either, but certainly a lot of

bullying. Good for Raffensberger and his counsel for standing up to Trump.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:45 PM

59. Recalculate, Rumors, In My Opinion

And a not-so-veiled threat regarding Tuesday's election.

This is criminal. This is sedition. And everyone who signs onto the insanity is guilty of the same.

Treason weasels, every single one!

Very smart of GA's SOS to make this recording. Otherwise, Trump would insist it was merely fake news.

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #59)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:25 PM

120. That's what stood out to me, too.

Ballots are either being shredded or they're not. You either have evidence or you don't. It's not a matter of opinion.

And you can't overturn an election based on "rumors."

Jan. 20 can't come soon enough.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:48 PM

61. trumps so desperate now he's liable to try anything

To prevent getting exposed , and likely prison. This is probably nothing compared to other things he's trying to do that we don't know about. trumps a corrupt criminal, and if he doesn't get held accountable , and sent to prison , we will lose our Democracy from a lack of law and order, and especially justice. The American people will lose all faith in our government if this has no serious consequences.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:49 PM

62. On the surface

Not sure if asking to have votes "re-calculated" would be illegal. However, if the Secretary of State actually followed through on doing that for Trump, then that opens up the illegalities.

Saying he needs him to find over 11,000 votes for Trump so it would show he won has hypocrisy written all over it....claims there's fraud, but at the same wants the Secretary of State to commit fraud.

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Response to Windy City Charlie (Reply #62)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:03 PM

72. I think it would be hard to prove something illegal in a court

from this.

I think it's much more damaging in a court of public opinion. It just shows more and more the level of corruption that Trump finds acceptable.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #72)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:24 AM

160. No matter what the crime,

you will never get 12 people on a jury without one or more of them thinking Trump is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

The worst we can do to Trump is make sure he spends the rest of his life in courtrooms spending whatever money he can grift on lawyers.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:53 PM

63. ' I'd like you to do me a favor though'.

I feel like I'm Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman listening to this rat.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:58 PM

67. That fucking does it. He in essence demanded that Raffensperger better fix the vote for him or

else. How much more of this shit will be allowed to happen before this motherfucker is taken away in a straight jacket and shipped to an asylum for the criminally insane? It makes me wonder how many other states where Trump might have lost but where he convinced a different Sec of State to put the fix in for him. Disgusting.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:00 PM

68. Always have a credible witness to back you up

. . . when dealing with slimy sewer rats. No. Make that two witnesses.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:00 PM

69. he is such a delusional maroon. TURN OFF GOP media.

shit happens when fake presidents listen to fake facts.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:01 PM

70. wow. i really pictured tony soprano listening to this.

so did he make similar phone calls to other representatives?

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #70)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:00 PM

111. LOL - It would be a shame of some of those voting machines fall off a truck.

RICO

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:09 PM

75. Mob boss at work.

Once a mob boss...

I'm guessing he learned it as a child from his old man.

Perhaps the danger he is in after leaving the WH is more serious than anyone thought. Polonium? Novichok?

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:12 PM

82. georgia election code

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:13 PM

83. This makes me so angry and I'm also angry knowing that trump will get away with this crap

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:16 PM

84. Gee, this just might put a kink in GOP plans to object to electoral college votes due to fraud by

Democrats.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:18 PM

85. It was an hour long call, I understand, so more may be coming.

Traitor McFuckface is so unable to STFU it must be hard for the traitors in the GOP to keep on track.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #85)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:19 PM

133. Okay, that explains the question I was going to ask-

What was with the white flashes and edits? An hour of trump making one threat after another? Is there a link to the full version? I am just seeing this break and have only seen this short clip.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:19 PM

86. Laws? ha, I'll just be pardoning myself if Pence doesn't pardon me!

F the law, I'm above it. No one can stop me, no one is above me. Well, so far no one has. So far.

Man, if Biden and his DOJ don't go after this guy it will be the biggest mistake possible to me and to Democracy.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:24 PM

88. That is attempted conspiracy, however...

I donít know if talking about a crime, or trying to get someone else to commit a crime without a plainly stated payoff, is a chargeable offense.

If Trump had offered him something tangible, this would surely be a crime.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:26 PM

89. K & R & Retweeted!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:28 PM

90. Susan Collins is concerned

But she thinks he's probably learned his lesson.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:28 PM

91. What a loser.

More "people are saying", and "I've heard that" bullshit.

Trump must know he's in SERIOUS legal trouble when the protection of the presidency slides off his hideous body.

Fuck you, loser.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:30 PM

93. impeached traitor erred

thinking that Mr. Raffsenperger would cave. Pack it up, you criminal, you can't even pick people to victimize.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:31 PM

94. I would love to hear an unedited version.

I don't think the full recording would change what we heard, but I'd still like to hear the whole thing.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #94)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:22 PM

134. Same! I'm sure lawyers are listening.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:33 PM

95. That is just a snippet

The call was 4 hours of ranting, cajoling, and bullying. I'm sure most, if ont all, is on tape.

That Raffensberger released it to the WaPo is pretty telling. I don't think he's going to be a Republican for long.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:33 PM

96. Now we've got Georgia Secy. of State

. . . actually "stopping the steal" on tape.

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Response to Larissa (Reply #96)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:53 PM

108. And he wasnt "supposed" to win in '18.

He financed his own campaign and didnt kiss the usual asses, and the people elected him anyway. But in '22 look for 100 to run against him. And Kemp.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #108)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:24 PM

150. Raffensberger is 65 and worth $26.5 Million

He may be tired of this shit and retire.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:36 PM

99. Flashing back to August of 1974

When a recording of Nixon asked if the CIA could stymie the FBI's investigation of the Watergate break in was released.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:38 PM

101. Forever this nation's shame

to have had this criminal as president for four years.

I hope this marks the low point in modern U.S. history.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:44 PM

102. Notice how he prefaces everything with "We won" and "You're results we wrong"

It's all to cover his ass. He knows he is lying and trying to overturn a legitimate election. But he is using Maffia speak; something that he has done all his life.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:45 PM

103. So mad I'm almost shaking right now

What will it take to lock this criminal, thug piece of shit up? WHAT WILL IT TAKE?!!!

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Response to Larissa (Reply #104)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:12 PM

116. I wonder if that shows criminal knowledge

that he knows he is asking Raff. to commit fraud.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:53 PM

107. such a whiny loser....

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:59 PM

110. This is on Mitch McConnell

Mitch had the opportunity to remove Trump. There are checks and balances to ensure a single individual doesn't wreak too much havoc on the government, but they must be employed.

Trump is just doing what Trump does.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:02 PM

112. None of this matters....

unless there is consequences. There must be legal action taken.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:04 PM

113. If presidents are caught breaking the law...

....the office should not protect them from prosecution. Period, full stop.

Trump is making us rethink a lot of things that need revisiting, because itís clear we can no longer assume an ethical, law-abiding, and Constitution-respecting chief executive.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:04 PM

114. Trump can get off

on a plea of insanity and it would be 100% believable.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:04 PM

115. Just listened to excerpts of the call on CNN and kept waiting for Trump to tell Raffensberger that

he would be "going through some things" if he didn't find those 11,000 votes.

And like other posters wrote, it was just like listening to a scene from The Godfather. The way he kept putting forth possible talking points for Raffensberger to use to explain why he changed the vote tally. And, like Michael Cohen told us, the way he makes demands on people through these indirect statements that he thinks give him plausible deniability ("I never told him to change the vote count!!!).

Wow. I'm so sick of this evil, scheming wreck of a human being. And I don't care if there are fewer than 20 days left. He should be impeached. NOW.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:12 PM

117. "Criminal offense"... Then your people should prosecute, Donald!

"Criminal offense"... Then your people should prosecute, Donald!

Don't whine.

Act!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:21 PM

119. This should have not been released.

They should have let him deny ever having made the call and THEN released it. C'mon, MSM...you've had years to figure this guy out. It's not like he's deep or smart or anything. Geez.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:26 PM

122. I hope he has the big one after GA votes blue on Tuesday

I dare not say what I really think of that piece of garbage.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:34 PM

125. What's really pathetic about T***P

is he's apparently too stupid to realize that, even if by some insane circumstance he managed to get Georgia to comply, he STILL loses the election!!

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:37 PM

126. what else has he said in private. the mind bogles :

Can you imagine all the authoritarian garbage Trump has said in private to people like Hawley, Cruz and Rubio thatís worse than that call. And they pretend to be outraged at Democrats and the media. Just bottomless bad faith and betrayal of democracy.



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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:24 PM

135. NOT SUPRISING THE PRESIDENT IS A CROOK

I would like to hear the full hour of the recording not just edits, where can I find it?

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:42 PM

136. Stupid Question - it is illegal as hell right?

Isn't it illegal as hell? I mean caught red handed illegal?

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Response to jimlup (Reply #136)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:08 PM

139. Yes...but.

Heís president. Thatís why this needs to change.

I believe Mueller concluded that the law is foggy on this point. Time to clear the air. This cannot be allowed to happen again, provided that we survive this nightmare.

I know your question was rhetorical, but itís galling that as it stands he can get away with this federal crime.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #139)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:57 PM

155. Thanks yes...

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:10 PM

141. Any idea how the Post got access to the recording?

Somebody's going to need protection.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:16 PM

142. Dan Rather's response

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:59 PM

146. Kick for visability...

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:07 PM

147. Nice little election you have coming up on Tuesday...

...and it would be a shame if something happened to it.

Fucking criminal thug.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:34 PM

152. Trump is the only man on the planet who can make Warren Harding look like a choir boy

His corruption will have to factor into every act of the script written for the eventual movie made about his failed presidency.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 08:52 PM

156. Think about the Trump phone calls that have NOT been recorded. Some scary shit.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:10 PM

157. LOCK. HIM. THE. FUCK. UP.

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #157)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

158. Yes PLEASE

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Response to choie (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 08:36 AM

161. I never thought I would hear the actual sound

Of an asshole whining.

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Response to choie (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:50 PM

162. This reminds me of John Mitchell's phone call with "Woodstein"

back in the Watergate era in which Mitchell threatened the WaPo and said if they didn't back off, that Katie Graham would "...find her tit caught in a ringer."

Seriously, what's the difference between that and the numerous shakedown called tRump has had during his term - and especially within the last two years?

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