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highplainsdem

(59,574 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:00 PM Jan 2021

Trump's unhappy with Mar-a-Lago, can't really go back to NY, so his

resort in Scotland -- if he does go to Turnberry on the 19th, as some reports indicate -- might simply be his response to not having any home here in the US that he's comfortable with at the moment.

Even if he and Melania are looking at estates in Florida since they can't live permanently at Mar-a-Lago, they don't have one yet.

And since Turnberry has been losing a lot of money, about $10 million a year, spending time there allows Trump to plug the resort on free media.

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Trump's unhappy with Mar-a-Lago, can't really go back to NY, so his (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2021 OP
Good. I hope they rot. Funny, they don't have a home but they bought on themselves. SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #1
Rump needs a home? SEND HIM TO THE MOON !!!! and take all the crook gop's with him trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #35
And, with Scotland being part of UK SheltieLover Jan 2021 #2
That makes sense. Surely they could stay long enough spooky3 Jan 2021 #16
Quick jump to mother russia, too! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #32
Always a plus - unless you are on Putin's sh*tlist. nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #37
Haha SheltieLover Jan 2021 #38
Putin has a nice penthouse suite for him, with lots and lots of balconies and windows. TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #46
Stop with the treason talk jmowreader Jan 2021 #45
I hope the US has an extradition treaty with Scotland. grumpyduck Jan 2021 #3
The only countries he's safe to flee to Wednesdays Jan 2021 #8
Any high end, reliable' [wink], safe havens in that group? empedocles Jan 2021 #23
And charge Secret Service for the rooms, golf carts, food exboyfil Jan 2021 #4
Trump needs to go down to two Secret Service on the afternoon of Jan. 20 NCDem47 Jan 2021 #9
Another reason for impeachment CloudWatcher Jan 2021 #20
Not golfing in Scotland in January... Arazi Jan 2021 #22
Come noon on the 20th, he loses his privilege of free travel on our dime... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #5
He should deport himself to his adopted motherland dalton99a Jan 2021 #6
Siberia is just beautiful this time of year,... magicarpet Jan 2021 #7
Like I said in the other thread, Wednesdays Jan 2021 #10
They would probaly give him a third-story suite with a balcony grumpyduck Jan 2021 #12
Running from the courts? n/t malaise Jan 2021 #11
He'd only do it to play keep away with the planes underpants Jan 2021 #13
he is also in legal troubles in scotland drray23 Jan 2021 #14
Oh yes he certainly is. Thanks for pointing this out. Budi Jan 2021 #28
Let's not forget, Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #15
I'm sure he loves the scary landing approach at that airport. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2021 #36
From many earlier stories, he is not liked any better in Scotland than in NYC karynnj Jan 2021 #17
' . . . he and Melania . . . ? empedocles Jan 2021 #25
First man on Mars!!!! moondust Jan 2021 #18
Maybe he will go to Scotland and pretend to live there Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #19
It's 35 degrees there now, 28 tonight, and apparently rains more days Hortensis Jan 2021 #21
Closer to Moscow. nt. Pluvious Jan 2021 #49
:) And could make Moscow without refueling again. Hortensis Jan 2021 #50
But the Scots are investigating the source of the money for the investment matt819 Jan 2021 #24
Doesn't he have a home in NYC? spinbaby Jan 2021 #26
Yes, and his golf place in NONJ obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #31
So how does that work GETTINGTIRED Jan 2021 #27
No problem in Scotland; not sure how it will work out in Moscow. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #41
Here is the smallest fiddle for Trump apnu Jan 2021 #29
Turnberry then Trump Towers in Turkey. Trump will flee the country. sarcasmo Jan 2021 #30
He owns three other homes, literally down the block from Mar a Lago blogslut Jan 2021 #33
Nobody likes me. Everybody hates me. I think I'll go eat worms. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #34
Scotland is locked down for COVID and Boris Johnson just locked down England too 45 minutes ago BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #39
Turdberry doesn't have bedbugs at least. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #40
Melania is still a citizen of Slovenia Klaralven Jan 2021 #42
Melania and Barron have dual citizenship, kskiska Jan 2021 #43
Since Slovenia is an EU member, she and Barron can live anywhere in the EU. Klaralven Jan 2021 #47
Ft. Leavenworth should have some vacancies. eppur_se_muova Jan 2021 #44
Or a cozy condo in Florence, CO liberaltrucker Jan 2021 #48

SheltieLover

(76,071 posts)
2. And, with Scotland being part of UK
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jan 2021

I believe he is trying to avoid extradition, if he is charged with treason because conviction carries the death penalty.

Can't imagine dump being charged with treason...

spooky3

(38,216 posts)
16. That makes sense. Surely they could stay long enough
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jan 2021

At Maralago while looking for a home, if he really wanted to.

jmowreader

(52,858 posts)
45. Stop with the treason talk
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jan 2021

Treason is two very specific things in the US, and Trump didn't do either.

The first is declaring war on the United States. Unleashing the Proud Boys, not sending Sidney Powell on a three-month-long vacation to Ulan Baator, and allowing the virus to ravage the country, while reprehensible and probably criminal, are not "declaring war on the United States."

The other is "providing aid and comfort to the enemy." Russia is more of a frenemy than anything, and Trump isn't known to have provided aid and comfort to North Korea. So, that's out.

Besides, I suspect that by the time we deal with the tax evasion, bribery and money laundering charges he was already looking at, and add in the 30 crimes the phone call to the Georgia SoS enabled, we'll be looking at the same effective life sentences that Ponzi operator Bernie Madoff and tax evader Winston Shrout got.

NCDem47

(3,308 posts)
9. Trump needs to go down to two Secret Service on the afternoon of Jan. 20
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jan 2021

No advance teams. No motorcades. No hotel room blocking or golf cart rentals. Bare, bare bones as minimally required.

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
20. Another reason for impeachment
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jan 2021

From what I've read, if an ex-president is impeached (and "removed&quot they'll lose Secret Service protection.

It'd be nice if this happened before he gets hauled off to jail.

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
7. Siberia is just beautiful this time of year,...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jan 2021

... would Putin let him self exile there so America can take a much needed break from the Orange fat ass liar ?

Wednesdays

(21,534 posts)
10. Like I said in the other thread,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jan 2021

Russia is unlikely, partly for the reasons you mentioned. I'm betting Saudi Arabia or UAE.

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
12. They would probaly give him a third-story suite with a balcony
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

once he's no longer useful to them.

Why waste the polonium.

underpants

(194,538 posts)
13. He'd only do it to play keep away with the planes
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

We have other planes. He’s really that petty and shallow

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
28. Oh yes he certainly is. Thanks for pointing this out.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

This involves Trump's financing of Scottish properties, thru his shady NY Trust, via the Crown, & winds it's way back to Sen Warner's ILLICIT CASH ACT he slipped into the NDAA just 4 days before it was a done deal.
And since it's a Trump Trust in New York, USA, well he's not getting out of this investigation.
Between Scotland & NYAG (with the power of the ILLICIT CASH ACT in her hands) I'd say Donald J Trump is due for a reckoning


Think this article reads the same as yours.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/analysis-question-how-donald-trumps-scottish-resorts-are-financed-even-more-urgent-2985977%3famp

This probably deserves its own thread. Or it will soon! 😏

karynnj

(60,756 posts)
17. From many earlier stories, he is not liked any better in Scotland than in NYC
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jan 2021

It is fascinating that nowhere he and Melania would likely want to live is red, except Florida -- and there are problems there. Maybe the island plot of land that the Kushners supposedly bought is for both them and the Trump - although Melania seems to not like Ivanka.

Wicked Blue

(8,409 posts)
19. Maybe he will go to Scotland and pretend to live there
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jan 2021

but flee from there to some secret location with no extradition treaty.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. It's 35 degrees there now, 28 tonight, and apparently rains more days
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jan 2021

than not. He has other places to go in the U.S., and as Wellstone mentions a resort on St. Martin. Frankly, the only reason I'm coming up with for his wanting to go to beautiful Scotland in January would be as a jump-off for somewhere else. Need more information.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. :) And could make Moscow without refueling again.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jan 2021

Unless our hounds are really snapping at his heels, I don't think heading straight for Putin's protection would be a good look for someone who still believes he could regain the presidency. And at very least intends to milk his trumpists to the last dollar, cheer, and vindictive strike.

He has many nice options, unfortunately, and at least initially would not have to consider only "shit-hole" nations that wouldn't extradite to us. Of course, we've never known what Putin has on him. It's not quite insanely beyond the realm of rational speculation that Putin could summon him for his own purposes.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
24. But the Scots are investigating the source of the money for the investment
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

Or at least they said they would.

BumRushDaShow

(165,037 posts)
39. Scotland is locked down for COVID and Boris Johnson just locked down England too 45 minutes ago
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jan 2021


UK prime minister orders new virus lockdown for England

By DANICA KIRKA and SYLVIA HUI19 minutes ago

LONDON (AP) — Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced on Monday a new national lockdown for England until at least mid-February to combat a fast-spreading new variant of the coronavirus, even as Britain ramped up its vaccination program by becoming the first nation to start using the shot developed by Oxford University and drugmaker AstraZeneca. Johnson said people must stay at home again, as they were ordered to do so in the first wave of the pandemic in March, this time because the new virus variant was spreading in a “frustrating and alarming” way. “As I speak to you tonight, our hospitals are under more pressure from COVID than at any time since the start of the pandemic,” he said.

Under the new rules, which are set to come into effect as soon as possible, primary and secondary schools and colleges will be closed for face to face learning except for the children of key workers. University students will not be returning until at least mid-February. All nonessential shops and personal care services like hairdressers will be closed, and restaurants can only operate takeout services. As of Monday, there were 26,626 COVID patients in hospitals in England, an increase of more than 30% from a week ago. That is 40% above the highest level of the first wave in the spring.

The U.K. has seen an alarming surge in coronavirus cases in recent weeks as public health officials struggle to control the spread of a new variant of COVID-19 that is more contagious than previous variants. Authorities have recorded more than 50,000 new infections a day since passing that milestone for the first time on Dec. 29. On Monday, they reported 407 virus-related deaths to push the confirmed death toll total to 75,431, one of the worst in Europe. The U.K.’s chief medical officers warned that without further action, “there is a material risk of the National Health Service in several areas being overwhelmed over the next 21 days.”

Hours earlier, Scottish leader Nicola Sturgeon also imposed a lockdown in her nation until the end of January. Beginning Tuesday, people in Scotland will be required to stay at home except for essential reasons, to help ease the pressure on hospitals and intensive care units, Sturgeon said. Under the new rules, people can go out for exercise but can only meet one person from another household. Schools will remain closed until February, except for children of key workers and those in social care. “I am more concerned about the situation we face now than I have been at any time since March last year,” Sturgeon said in Edinburgh.

https://apnews.com/article/uk-1st-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-virus-013f538e8ec3a153a4d2e39601961472

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
40. Turdberry doesn't have bedbugs at least.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jan 2021

Plus, it's a perfect refueling stop for the trip to Moscow.

kskiska

(27,164 posts)
43. Melania and Barron have dual citizenship,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jan 2021

as do her parents, I presume. Melania will do whatever is best for herself and Barron, whether it includes her husband or not. I'm sure she enjoyed her ladies-who-lunch life in Manhattan.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
47. Since Slovenia is an EU member, she and Barron can live anywhere in the EU.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jan 2021

Depending on his facility with languages, Baron may need to go to a college with instruction in English.

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