Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:12 PM
Wednesdays (15,972 posts)
Statement from the REPUBLICAN mayor of Oklahoma City
https://thebulwark.com/in-praise-of-those-who-resist-temptation/
On edit: even though he's from the opposing party, he's hardly batshit crazy and is honestly trying to do what's best for his constituents. In Praise of Those Who Resist Temptation (Excerpt): I’ll probably struggle to remember Secretary Brad Raffensperger’s name two weeks from now, but he has demonstrated the intestinal fortitude lacking in some elected officials with much fancier titles and much higher profiles. And our republic will still exist on January 7, January 21, and hopefully for decades to come because of people like him around the country who have played their unpleasant, but necessary, roles in this process. I suspect most of these people would probably tell you they’re just doing their jobs. But the reality is that their jobs are hard. And their jobs are subject to a great temptation. Yet rather than telling people what they want to hear, these public servants told people what they needed to hear, including the most powerful person in the world. It appears right now that a majority of Congress will join the ranks of these patriots later this week. Yes, some in Congress will not, and they will likely be remembered for giving in to temptation. But many, many more have stood up for truth and resisted the temptations of comforting lies. These American heroes are preserving our way of life. They deserve our praise and our gratitude
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Wednesdays | Jan 2021 | OP |
SoonerPride | Jan 2021 | #1 | |
LAS14 | Jan 2021 | #2 | |
SharonClark | Jan 2021 | #3 | |
Wednesdays | Jan 2021 | #5 | |
TheRickles | Jan 2021 | #7 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Jan 2021 | #4 | |
Traildogbob | Jan 2021 | #9 | |
marybourg | Jan 2021 | #6 | |
LuvNewcastle | Jan 2021 | #8 | |
Irish_Dem | Jan 2021 | #12 | |
marybourg | Jan 2021 | #21 | |
Irish_Dem | Jan 2021 | #22 | |
Wednesdays | Jan 2021 | #20 | |
soldierant | Jan 2021 | #39 | |
nam78_two | Jan 2021 | #41 | |
Irish_Dem | Jan 2021 | #10 | |
MFGsunny | Jan 2021 | #42 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Jan 2021 | #11 | |
I_UndergroundPanther | Jan 2021 | #34 | |
jaxexpat | Jan 2021 | #13 | |
stillcool | Jan 2021 | #14 | |
GarySeven | Jan 2021 | #15 | |
Zorro | Jan 2021 | #18 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Jan 2021 | #16 | |
CaptainTruth | Jan 2021 | #17 | |
marble falls | Jan 2021 | #19 | |
RVN VET71 | Jan 2021 | #25 | |
Wounded Bear | Jan 2021 | #23 | |
BannonsLiver | Jan 2021 | #24 | |
Sucha NastyWoman | Jan 2021 | #26 | |
lillypaddle | Jan 2021 | #27 | |
oldsoftie | Jan 2021 | #28 | |
TinCup | Jan 2021 | #29 | |
Cha | Jan 2021 | #30 | |
Harker | Jan 2021 | #31 | |
Wednesdays | Jan 2021 | #35 | |
avebury | Jan 2021 | #32 | |
freepotter | Jan 2021 | #37 | |
Toorich | Jan 2021 | #33 | |
yellowdogintexas | Jan 2021 | #40 | |
calimary | Jan 2021 | #36 | |
Smackdown2019 | Jan 2021 | #38 |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:13 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
1. I can't believe something good came out of my hometown today.
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:15 PM
LAS14 (13,061 posts)
2. I love seeing this stuff. We really need a loyal opposition. We don't need a single party system. n
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:17 PM
SharonClark (9,590 posts)
3. He has a thing about the word "temptation".
Is he trying to get through to the christianistas?
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Response to SharonClark (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:20 PM
Wednesdays (15,972 posts)
5. He is Episcopalian, that's about all I know about his religion.
I hear about him a lot, and from what I know I doubt he is pandering in this article.
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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #5)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:31 PM
TheRickles (1,407 posts)
7. Not pandering, but more like a dog whistle (in the best sense of the term)
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:19 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (106,946 posts)
4. This is an excellent piece. Bravo to the Mayor of Oklahoma City; he speaks real truth here.
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:41 PM
Traildogbob (6,705 posts)
9. Oklahoma City
Has experienced first hand, right wing white terroristic destruction and death. Maybe this Mayor actually learned from history, and sees what is being cheered on right now from GOP propaganda and conspiracies. They want destruction and death. Always have. It’s profitable to them. They reap power and cash from it.
Bravo to the Mayor. More please. |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:23 PM
marybourg (11,473 posts)
6. Now it takes heroism for Congresspersons to fulfill their oaths
to uphold the Constitution. They deserve praise and gratitude. Sorry. That’s just wrong, wrong wrong.
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Response to marybourg (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:32 PM
LuvNewcastle (16,346 posts)
8. I agree. That isn't heroic.
That's their fucking job and they don't get medals for just doing their job.
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Response to marybourg (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:49 PM
Irish_Dem (35,648 posts)
12. Sad to say, this is the current political reality. Takes courage just to do your job.
And the everyday American, nurses, grocery clerks, etc. are showing more courage than
elected officials who are trying to save their own political necks and wealth. |
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:44 PM
marybourg (11,473 posts)
21. Pitiful, isn't it?
Response to marybourg (Reply #21)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:49 PM
Irish_Dem (35,648 posts)
22. A disgrace. Never thought it would happen here, but I guess I was naive. nt
Response to marybourg (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:43 PM
Wednesdays (15,972 posts)
20. In the article, he also rebukes those who trample the Constitution
He merely points out Raffensberger as a contrast, and doesn't spend much time on him.
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Response to marybourg (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:39 PM
soldierant (5,082 posts)
39. It shouldn't, but in fact it does.
Takes courage just to fulfill their oaths, I mean.
If every single one of us eligible voters were doing our job right - by which I meana bevy of actions, including learning what effects policies actually have on America's well being,, finding out what out candidates actually stand for (and whether whatever that is helps or hinders), and, not last (because I haven't the time or energy to list every detail of out jobs) but also not least, voting the entire ballot in every election, it need not have come to this. But it has. |
Response to marybourg (Reply #6)
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:46 PM
Irish_Dem (35,648 posts)
10. Excellent article, should be required reading for all Americans.
Mayor Holt couched it in biblical terms so the evangelicals could understand his points.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:48 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,548 posts)
11. Not interested in listening to Republicans congratulate each other for doing the bare-ass minimum.
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 08:26 PM
I_UndergroundPanther (11,645 posts)
34. This👆
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:00 PM
jaxexpat (5,170 posts)
13. Somewhere along the way this mayor has come to understand the perfect fragility of democracy.
There may be some little good come of the Trump-op-era if it causes some Republicans to have a sobering internal dialogue.
The rock of stupidity is quite large. We can only hope to nudge it a bit, even with our best efforts. |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:02 PM
stillcool (32,620 posts)
14. uh-oh. It's starting again...
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:20 PM
GarySeven (921 posts)
15. Before progressives rush to deify Raffensperger
Let's try to remember that he is the architect of a thousand little wounds to voter access in Georgia and has active, large scale plans to suppress future Democratic votes.
And, ultimately, what he is doing with Trump et al is defending the election that he was in charge of. Not the votes, but his method of running the election. |
Response to GarySeven (Reply #15)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:24 PM
Zorro (14,908 posts)
18. Yes indeed
That's exactly what Stacey Abrams was pointing out on Rachel's show last night. Raffensperger is only defending the voting process he and the governor set up to suppress the vote.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:21 PM
BobTheSubgenius (11,360 posts)
16. "At long last, do you have no sense of decency?"
His words probably won't be even the footnote in history as the ones I just quoted, but they are in the same vein...lead to the same conclusions.
This man appears to be an old school Republican - one with whom I fundamentally disagree, and probably will forever, but not one for whom I wish banishment or death. There are some of those, sadly. |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:22 PM
CaptainTruth (5,640 posts)
17. I truly hope this splits the Republican party.
From what I see online a lot of cult Trumpers hate people like David Holt, they call them RINOs & say they'll never vote for them because they abandoned Trump.
If a significant portion of Trump's base revolts against the GOP it could be very good for us in the next election cycle or two. We should do what we can to encourage it. |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:25 PM
marble falls (47,684 posts)
19. The sad commentary here is that people doing exactly what they should be doing would ...
... elicit high praise. None of them are going above and beyond, really.
I'm glad they're doing it, but it's a shame shirking one's duty has become common enough to high lite the ones who do the right thing: the job we elected them to. |
Response to marble falls (Reply #19)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:00 PM
RVN VET71 (2,588 posts)
25. I agree, but it did take some cojones for Raffensberger and his lawyer
to refute the president’s lies directly to the president, himself. He might have sniveled away and even promised to look into it. -and then done nothing. But he chose to draw a line in the sand and not cross it.
But I just heard Stacey Abrams remind viewers of Rachel Maddow’s show that Raffensberger is not a heroic supporter of voting rights, having been one of the major persons running the GOP’s voter suppression effort in Georgia. An enemy who was finally (after 18 phone calls!) forced to do the right thing rather than cave in to the madman calling from Washington. |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:51 PM
Wounded Bear (55,388 posts)
23. K&R...nt
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:56 PM
BannonsLiver (14,890 posts)
24. Holt is an excellent mayor
Im not surprised he wrote it. I’m glad people took the time to read this rather than the typical knee jerk purity goober response. We only had one of those in the thread so far. That’s pretty solid.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:07 PM
Sucha NastyWoman (2,566 posts)
26. There are some conservatives/Republicans
Worthy of our respect, and we should acknowledge them.
Unfortunately it is probably less than 20% of their party (and that may be way too generous). |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:25 PM
lillypaddle (9,514 posts)
27. My BFF in OKC
told me that she has an appt for the vaccine on Wednesday. She is 72 and has no underlying issues. I checked for KY, where I live, and nobody knows anything yet.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:30 PM
oldsoftie (10,559 posts)
28. That Gabriel Sterling fellow is another one who has stood strong since day one.
And gave a blistering press conference yesterday.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 04:27 PM
TinCup (54 posts)
29. Amazing Response
Not may horse in the race here in OKC but proud of the stance he has taken during the epidemic and now he has decided stand in line with the sane people.
Nice job Mr. Mayor |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 04:44 PM
Cha (283,912 posts)
30. Bravo.. but I'll never forget SOS' Brad
Raffensperger's name!
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 05:37 PM
Harker (11,971 posts)
31. The last time I had occasion to look at an election map
of OK, there wasn't a blue county.
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Response to Harker (Reply #31)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 08:27 PM
Wednesdays (15,972 posts)
35. If the wingnuts call him a RINO,
I wouldn't disagree with them. In many ways, he's very much like a Democrat, but no one in Oklahoma can get elected if they have that "D" after their name. Kendra Horn was an abberation.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 06:04 PM
avebury (10,815 posts)
32. He gives the type of speeches that
the Governor should make. He has done a better job dealing with Covid then Stitt.
There is no doubt that he will run for higher office. He could give Stitt a run for his money. |
Response to avebury (Reply #32)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:48 PM
freepotter (277 posts)
37. He did hold a higher office
He used to be an Oklahoma state senator, but seemed to be pretty much a butt while he was in that office. I think he lost his last senate election, or might have just termed out. Maybe working closer to his constituents has changed his perspective some.
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Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 07:11 PM
Toorich (390 posts)
33. .... Sen. Langford of Oklahoma ....
.... a member of the "Sedition Caucus" is reputed to hold a Masters of Divinity degree, and
like others of his ilk, professes to be a bona fide, card-carrying, pro-life christian. this may have spurred the use of some of the Mayor's words. |
Response to Toorich (Reply #33)
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:24 AM
yellowdogintexas (20,456 posts)
40. depends on the school that gave him that degree.
Some are better than others
Just sayin |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:13 PM
calimary (74,877 posts)
36. Oh you bet yer ass they're gonna be remembered.
I plan to add that info to the Resources section of our Indivisible group’s weekly Call to Action email.
And I intend to KEEP it there. I can do that. I’m “head writer.” We WILL NOT forget who they were. House AND Senate. I’m hellbent-determined to make sure of that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to Wednesdays (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:22 PM
Smackdown2019 (1,008 posts)
38. Here is what American Politics are
35 percent are far left - Liberal Democrats
20 percent - Conservative Democrats 3 percent - I dont care what I am 2 percent - Independent thinkers 10 percent - Conservative Republicans 30 percent - Trumper In other words, we Americans gather to the midpoint of our political spectrum and put in our leaders according to who votes on election day. |