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global1

(25,272 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:46 PM Jan 2021

Is There A Rumor Going Around That Pence Is Going To Resign Today?....

I was in the other room last night and had the TV on pretty loud listening to Brian Williams 11th Hour. I'm not sure if I heard correctly - but it had to do with a Bill Kristol comment that Pence was going to resign Tuesday - one day before he was to preside over this electoral college decision.

What's up with this?

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Is There A Rumor Going Around That Pence Is Going To Resign Today?.... (Original Post) global1 Jan 2021 OP
It stems from this tweet of his. herding cats Jan 2021 #1
That sounds like complete and utter nonsense. LisaL Jan 2021 #2
My impression was it was a baiting joke at Pence's expense. herding cats Jan 2021 #9
This. And at the blatherers. :) Hortensis Jan 2021 #15
Bear in mind that Bill Kristol is known for being wrong about everything CanonRay Jan 2021 #10
Pretty sure he was just being sarcastic here... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #17
You're a trustworthy reporter/poster, so *wow*!1 DRUMPF has blessed us with bizarre the Normal!1 UTUSN Jan 2021 #3
Perhaps it was about the rumor Pence would not be overseeing the Electoral Vote count. Make7 Jan 2021 #4
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jan 2021 #7
my mom JustAnotherGen Jan 2021 #5
No, it would not make Pelosi VP. There is no line of succession for VP. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #8
Kristol cautioned that this scenario is outside the box. And it is. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #6
Agree. Very very "outside the box" Mike 03 Jan 2021 #14
Pence is stiff, but doesn't have a backbone. Does anyone really think he'll get some principles now? FSogol Jan 2021 #11
FWIW: CNN just reported that Trump is taking Pence to lunch right now. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #12
Is Trump Taking Pence To Lunch Or Is Pence Taking Trump To Lunch?.... global1 Jan 2021 #16
Take another look and tell me Mikey--Who's Zoomin' Who? panader0 Jan 2021 #19
Pence probably suggested a VERY public, crowded restaurant essme Jan 2021 #18
pence should all of a sudden finds hes been exposed and needs to quarantine for life samnsara Jan 2021 #13
Aha! VP Ivanka. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #20
The Lincoln Project has had fun with trump's relationship with Pence Gothmog Jan 2021 #21

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
1. It stems from this tweet of his.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jan 2021



OK you wanted outside the box:

1. Pence would prefer not to subvert the Constitution on Jan. 6.

2. But Pence feels a strong sense of loyalty to Trump.

3. And Pence wants to avoid a demand that he pardon Trump upon a Trump resignation Jan. 19.

So: Pence resigns as VP tomorrow.

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It's just a joke, it's never gonna happen.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
2. That sounds like complete and utter nonsense.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

If Pence doesn't want to be there tomorrow, all he has to do is not show up. He doesn't need to resign.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
9. My impression was it was a baiting joke at Pence's expense.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:04 PM
Jan 2021

It was never intended seriously. It was due to all the reporting he has been "agonizing" over his loyalty to Trump and doing his constitutional duty.

I admit, the blather over Pence's alleged angst was tiring.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
4. Perhaps it was about the rumor Pence would not be overseeing the Electoral Vote count.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jan 2021
For A Second It Looked Like Grassley Was About To Rescue Pence From Sealing Trump’s Defeat

...

On Tuesday morning, Roll Call reported that Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), the president pro tempore of the Senate, said he would replace Vice President Mike Pence as presiding officer when Congress certifies the 2020 election results beginning on Wednesday.

“We don’t expect him to be there,” Grassley said of Pence, according to Roll Call.

...

George Hartmann, Grassley’s deputy communications director, clarified the senator’s comment in an emailed statement amid the confusion, asserting that Roll Call’s report was a “misrepresentation.”

“Sen. Grassley did not say he would preside over the joint session, but instead indicated that he would preside over the debate in the Senate—as president pro tempore of the Senate—if the Vice President is not present for any portion of that debate,” Hartmann said.

Grassley “has every expectation that the Vice President will be present on the hill Wednesday,” the spokesperson added.

...

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/for-a-second-it-looked-like-grassley-was-about-to-rescue-pence-from-sealing-trumps-defeat

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
8. No, it would not make Pelosi VP. There is no line of succession for VP.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

If the vice president resigns, dies or otherwise can't serve, the president appoints somebody else, who has to be approved by both houses of Congress.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
6. Kristol cautioned that this scenario is outside the box. And it is.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

I doubt very much that it will happen - and even if it did, the ceremonial task of opening the EC ballot certificates and reading the results would go to Chuck Grassley and the process would continue.

FSogol

(45,529 posts)
11. Pence is stiff, but doesn't have a backbone. Does anyone really think he'll get some principles now?
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jan 2021

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. FWIW: CNN just reported that Trump is taking Pence to lunch right now.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:49 PM
Jan 2021

They were talking about how much pressure Trump is subjecting him to.

(Haven't heard the rumors.)

global1

(25,272 posts)
16. Is Trump Taking Pence To Lunch Or Is Pence Taking Trump To Lunch?....
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

Trump better be careful about just how much pressure he subjects Pence to. Pence might just up and resign if he feels too hard a press on him by Trump and if Mother approves.

essme

(1,207 posts)
18. Pence probably suggested a VERY public, crowded restaurant
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

Pence isn't completely stupid- he's a dork, but he is not stupid.

If he's smart, he'll put his voice recorder on the phone and place it on the table between them. And, invite his lawyer as his "date."

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