Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:28 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,147 posts)
Where Trump got all those new voters
Analysis here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/05/trump-lost-he-won-millions-new-voters-where-did-they-come/?arc404=true I do think a huge part of his appeal was for less educated working class people who thought the pandemic was overblown and just wanted to get back to work. His re-open everything message must have been very appealing to them, but obviously it was shortsighted given the awful consequences now-- the growing death toll. Noteworthy to me is he got 1.5 million new votes in California, especially in around LA. I think this might explain better why they are having such a large COVID19 outbreak there.
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LymphocyteLover | Jan 2021 | OP |
onecaliberal | Jan 2021 | #1 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jan 2021 | #3 | |
onecaliberal | Jan 2021 | #5 | |
rocktivity | Jan 2021 | #2 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jan 2021 | #4 | |
onecaliberal | Jan 2021 | #6 | |
StClone | Jan 2021 | #7 | |
jcgoldie | Jan 2021 | #8 | |
central scrutinizer | Jan 2021 | #9 | |
MyOwnPeace | Jan 2021 | #10 | |
David__77 | Jan 2021 | #11 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jan 2021 | #12 | |
rocktivity | Jan 2021 | #13 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jan 2021 | #14 |
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:34 PM
onecaliberal (24,259 posts)
1. 3/4 of California is supposed to be under a stay at home order.
In my county today there are 0 ICU beds for the 18 day in a row. Very few are adhering to the order. There is 0 enforcement. After almost a month with the vaccine, we still haven’t managed to vaccinate all healthcare workers. I just went to the county health department web page, the word vaccine cannot be found on the entire website.
The state doesn’t seem to care about containing the virus anymore. I guess it’s anything goes. There are LOTS of brown and black people in this county. |
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #1)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:37 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,147 posts)
3. what county?
I'm very sad about what happened with my home state and I have family there.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #3)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:39 PM
onecaliberal (24,259 posts)
5. Fresno
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:35 PM
rocktivity (44,268 posts)
2. But Trump LOST the popular vote, and by TWICE as much as he did in 2016
Last edited Sat Feb 20, 2021, 12:30 PM - Edit history (4) Why isn't WaPo also wondering where BIDEN'S "new" voters came from, as well?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14641126 ![]() rocktivity |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:38 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,147 posts)
4. Yeah. That's important to remember.
But trump is so awful it's important to understand what his appeal is too.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:40 PM
onecaliberal (24,259 posts)
6. His appeal is lying cheating hate and fascism.
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:43 PM
StClone (11,275 posts)
7. Trump is great at appealing to fears
Finding and motivating fears in people is where he thrived especially where education is less. Note that Massachusetts and East Cost is an example of that. But oddly New York NY, a lot of the interior west, and West Virginia had less pro-Trump votes, too.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:46 PM
jcgoldie (8,932 posts)
8. Just like Trump... head in the sand approach
I thought the virus helped him in the election not the other way around ironically. People want to ignore the virus because it is inconvenient rather than following the science because that is hard.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:06 PM
central scrutinizer (10,551 posts)
9. That analysis makes some sense
The Republicans have always tried to keep working people right on the edge. Low wages, poor benefits, living from paycheck to paycheck, make people choose between food or shelter. Saddle students with crushing debt. Now with the pandemic, many families were really between a rock and a hard place. Stay safely at home, use up your savings and face hunger and homelessness, or go to work and risk getting very sick. The hunger and eviction seemed certain given McConnell’s intransigence and callousness. It probably looked like you had a better chance of surviving the virus.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 03:57 PM
MyOwnPeace (14,679 posts)
10. I'm sure no vote analyst ever......
thought they would have to derive data from Emergency Room intakes.....
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 04:16 PM
David__77 (21,032 posts)
11. Yeah, COVID-related issues worked against Democrats, I think.
At least on net I think that's the case. I get the frustration that the economy was ramped down without the government replacing wages. Other countries that had shutdowns replaced wages with the wage replacement rate being very high.
Trump had a ground campaign and did all sorts of things like marketing himself via letters about COVID-related checks, letters in food boxes that went out to people, etc. |
Response to David__77 (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 08:14 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,147 posts)
12. Yes, agree. Although we focus on all the crap he did, his campaign probably was
effective at highlighting how he was really good for the voters he targeted.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:14 AM
rocktivity (44,268 posts)
13. Trump's (AND Biden's) "new" votes ALL came from those who DIDN'T vote in 2016
Last edited Wed Sep 8, 2021, 03:07 PM - Edit history (29) Trump lost because Biden got nearly 60% of them (which is why I consider this WaPo "analysis" to be "fake news"):
In 2016, 129 million people voted Democrat or Republican. Analysis accomplished, WaPo -- you're welcome. ![]() rocktivity |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #13)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:53 AM
LymphocyteLover (3,147 posts)
14. thanks
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