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onetexan

(13,036 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 03:58 AM Jan 2021

WOW - NYT journalist posted this: will Dems try to recruit Republican Senators to switch sides

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020

Adam Nagourney 28m ago
If Ossoff also wins, will Dems try to recruit Republican Senators to switch sides and join a new majority party? There's precedent and it is now the Trump Republican Party, so some might be tempted.

Everyone's thoughts on the subject?
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WOW - NYT journalist posted this: will Dems try to recruit Republican Senators to switch sides (Original Post) onetexan Jan 2021 OP
I'm not going to be a purist. A vote for our side is a vote to advance forward. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #1
Steve Schmidt is probably all for it. but as a temporary measure SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2021 #2
He will never be a Republican again, nor will he ever be able to get a job with them ... Hekate Jan 2021 #16
He has joined the Democratic party, announced it a few weeks ago. ms liberty Jan 2021 #32
The people who refused to convict the impeached, murdering, orange traitor? niyad Jan 2021 #3
Calling Mitt Romney... Hekate Jan 2021 #15
No fooking way! He's going to run for the presidential nomination for whatever's left of the GOP. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #18
He just had a really awful day: harassed at the SLC Airport, then jeered by multiple passengers... Hekate Jan 2021 #19
He's still a vulture capitalist snake. No way would I want him in our party! scarletwoman Jan 2021 #21
I disagree. He knows damned well his party left him and his Presidency hopes are long past. hlthe2b Jan 2021 #27
Pipe dream KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #4
Opinion, editorial and speculation.... LeftInTX Jan 2021 #5
I'll take anyone who wants to join. Romney, Murkowski? TeamPooka Jan 2021 #6
I think Romney would be the most likely to go "I" coti Jan 2021 #7
I don't know. Life just got a lot harder for him. Today he was harassed at the airport and then... Hekate Jan 2021 #13
No way... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #22
before all this republican civil war crap I was worried they could recruit our most mucifer Jan 2021 #8
I wonder who would be for it? Their Cha Jan 2021 #9
I hope so. Perhaps a few could be persuaded to become Independents & caucus with the Dems... Hekate Jan 2021 #10
I can't think of any Repub who would switch. radius777 Jan 2021 #11
I'm hoping so. herding cats Jan 2021 #12
Let's start with Bernie Sanders! stopbush Jan 2021 #14
ROTFL onetexan Jan 2021 #17
Your penance awaits Major Nikon Jan 2021 #33
That's just plain naughty ! OnDoutside Jan 2021 #34
The only one I could see is maybe Lisa Murkowski switching to Independent & caucusing with us. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #20
Scorpion Frog Hell No. Primary all of them. OhNo-Really Jan 2021 #23
Too late. Don't want them. nt DURHAM D Jan 2021 #24
I don't see it happening BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #25
What's wrong with getting the sane ones? LisaL Jan 2021 #29
I would note that this might have been more likely... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #26
More bdamomma Jan 2021 #28
I was imagning a scenario like this KayF Jan 2021 #30
my worry is the opposite, looking at you Manchin Amishman Jan 2021 #31
I can't think of a single R senator that would switch onenote Jan 2021 #35
Someone previously mentioned Biden asking Pat Toomey to serve in the cabinet, which would OnDoutside Jan 2021 #36
I can't think of a single R senator that would switch onenote Jan 2021 #37
Party switching rarely works out for the person who does it dsc Jan 2021 #38
Unlikely. They have more power as the Republican votes needed for cloture. Klaralven Jan 2021 #39

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
1. I'm not going to be a purist. A vote for our side is a vote to advance forward.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 03:59 AM
Jan 2021

I'll take all the help we can get to keep moving forward.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
16. He will never be a Republican again, nor will he ever be able to get a job with them ...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:08 AM
Jan 2021

...even if he wanted to do so.


ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
32. He has joined the Democratic party, announced it a few weeks ago.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:45 AM
Jan 2021

He's been an independent for a couple of years now.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
18. No fooking way! He's going to run for the presidential nomination for whatever's left of the GOP.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:11 AM
Jan 2021

Not to mention:

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
19. He just had a really awful day: harassed at the SLC Airport, then jeered by multiple passengers...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:14 AM
Jan 2021

...on his flight to DC. I think the word “traitor” was used.

He might be re-assessing his future at this point.

hlthe2b

(102,220 posts)
27. I disagree. He knows damned well his party left him and his Presidency hopes are long past.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 06:50 AM
Jan 2021

He's still 180 degrees from my positions and does not garner my support, but I acknowledge he's one of the few R's with ANY ethics whatsoever and one we could possibly work with on some issues. That he has stood up to Trump on multiple occasions makes him a RARE (nearly extinct) form of Republican.

LeftInTX

(25,231 posts)
5. Opinion, editorial and speculation....
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:01 AM
Jan 2021

At the most they may agree on a few bills or GOP won't put up too much of a stink over Biden nominees....

Maybe a few rouge senators tomorrow will sit there and allow the certification instead of waging war against America

It won't get any cozier than that

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
13. I don't know. Life just got a lot harder for him. Today he was harassed at the airport and then...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:05 AM
Jan 2021

...shouted at by a crowd of passengers as he flew back to DC.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
22. No way...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:24 AM
Jan 2021

Mittens still has dreams of a 2024 run, positioning himself as the "sensible Republican." He has to stay in the Party. Murkowski might be another matter -- when the Palinistas tried to drive her out in favor of a wingnut, she ran as an independent and won.

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
8. before all this republican civil war crap I was worried they could recruit our most
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:03 AM
Jan 2021

conservative democratic senators or bribe them to switch sides. But, now it's pretty clear that's not gonna happen

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
10. I hope so. Perhaps a few could be persuaded to become Independents & caucus with the Dems...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:04 AM
Jan 2021

So much work in the Senate and House used to be horse-trading — I’m sure there are still some skilled practitioners of the art who could find out what it would take to make, for instance, Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney moderately happy to do so. Their old GOP is a stinking carcase and they look none too happy with the situation.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
11. I can't think of any Repub who would switch.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:04 AM
Jan 2021

They are all Repubs, though more moderate or really just sane/non-conspiratorial, but still ideologically Republican.

Just as Manchin will never switch as he's fundamentally a Dem, just more conservative.

herding cats

(19,559 posts)
12. I'm hoping so.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:05 AM
Jan 2021

A defection or two would go miles to further cobbling the nut jobs on the other side. I'm sure McConnell and McCarthy have teats in store for the moderates we would never offer to prevent such, but it would be nice to gut them a bit more now. Even one defection would be fun!

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
20. The only one I could see is maybe Lisa Murkowski switching to Independent & caucusing with us.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:16 AM
Jan 2021

Remember Jim Jeffords?

But I definitely wouldn't want Mr. 47% Mitt Romney. Let him work on a reformed non-trump republican party of some sort. The man still has presidential ambitions, keep him in the opposition.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
25. I don't see it happening
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:26 AM
Jan 2021

By my count there are four sane GOP senators. Those are Murkowski, Collins, Sasse and Romney. That’s the sane caucus. Four people. The rest are fanatical right wing nut jobs. None of those senators are in states that are trending blue. I don’t see the motivation to switch.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
26. I would note that this might have been more likely...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 04:27 AM
Jan 2021

...had the Georgia races been split. Then, we would have needed someone on their side to go indy and caucus with us to have a Senate majority. Now, there's little difference between 50-50 with Harris breaking the tie, or 51-49, especially since it's unlikely any such renegade Republican would go along with measures such as eliminating the filibuster.

KayF

(1,345 posts)
30. I was imagning a scenario like this
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:18 AM
Jan 2021

isolating the republicans who vote for the coup into a tiny minority that withers away.

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
31. my worry is the opposite, looking at you Manchin
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:22 AM
Jan 2021

Manchin has to think about it, especially after WV governor Justice switched D to R and handily won re-election.

Mitch will give him anything he wants, and switching parties takes a lot of pressure off Manchin as right now our entire agenda effectively has to go through him

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
36. Someone previously mentioned Biden asking Pat Toomey to serve in the cabinet, which would
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:31 AM
Jan 2021

make sense. He's not standing for re-election in 2022, so this way he gets 4 years relevance instead of 2, and his replacement would be appointed by a Dem Governor. It makes lots of sense, especially after last night's results.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
38. Party switching rarely works out for the person who does it
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:35 AM
Jan 2021

The only recent one for whom it did is Shelby. Ben Nighthorse-Campbell lost reelection, Specter lost primary, Jeffords didn't run again (though to be fair he was unwell). Honestly people don't appreciate weasels go figure. That said, if Collins or Murkowski want to switch parties I am not going to stand in the way.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
39. Unlikely. They have more power as the Republican votes needed for cloture.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:03 AM
Jan 2021

Besides, party discipline is less stringent in the Senate than the House. The Senate tends to be 100 independents, and the Senators like it that way.

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