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Oh, I love it. One of the best days eva!
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/republicans-turn-on-trump-georgia-loss-455305https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/republicans-turn-on-trump-georgia-loss-455305
Trump is the cause of this, lock, stock and barrel, said one Republican strategist. But when youre relying on someone to win you a Senate race that also lost statewide eight weeks prior, youre not in a position of strength.
He is the Dems best base animator, said one GOP strategist involved in the Georgia races. Look at how high turnout was on their side compared to historical trends. Look at how much their candidates raised. He steps back after Election Day and denies them that oxygen. He didnt.
The GOP blame game has expanded beyond Trump to some of his party acolytes. One party official suggested RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel Trumps hand-picked party leader should step down, only a day ahead of the Republican National Committees annual Winter Meeting in Amelia Island, Fla.
Let the bloodletting, backstabbing, civil war and crying inside the GOP commence and get the popcorn!
SunSeeker
(58,278 posts)agingdem
(8,843 posts)Mopar151
(10,348 posts)Solly Mack
(96,940 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,315 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,201 posts)When a potential Georgian senate voter thinks that his vote might keep McConnell in charge of the senate, that seems more logical.
Plenty of blame to go around, in a circular firing squad.
(Your link is doubled, so doesn't work without editing, by the way)
Chemisse
(31,343 posts)smb
(3,598 posts)I did a quick schadenfreude scan of FreeRepublic, and found some comments along the lines of "damn, we'd be a lot better off if Stacy Abrams had won her election and was too busy being governor to run the Democratic GOTV machine".
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Trump is the cause if this...
THE LIGHT DAWNS.
Everything he touches turns to shit.
I for one will savor the schadenfreude.
TlalocW
(15,675 posts)dutch777
(5,068 posts)...what we have already seen for 4+ years. Dems have to fix the procedural and rules loopholes or this is a hiatus from crazy, not the full cure.
Escurumbele
(4,094 posts)I have said before that the power of the presidency needs to be analyzed and things must change. There must be more checks and balances, we cannot allow another corrupt, evil individual to become president, and there is a long line of those crazies, who are all more intelligent than trump trying to become presidents themselves, the lessons they have learned from trump will serve them well to accomplish what trump was not able to.
I worry about people like Hawley, not Cruz because he may be intelligent, but too many people hate his guts, even inside the GOP, but Hawley seems to be corrupt enough and smart enough to do it.
chriscan64
(1,789 posts)We learned that much of what restrained presidents from bad behavior was simply force of habit. "Subpoena? Of course I'll comply, it's a subpoena." Now we know that the penalty for ignoring a congressional subpoena is lawsuits that don't go anywhere even if the suit is won. Too much is built upon assumptions. There is no mechanism for requiring financial information from candidates because we assume that the process of running for president will weed out tax cheats and white collar criminals. We assume nobility in presidents the way we assume that nobody will eat the whole tray of samples at the grocery store when nothing is really stopping them apart from a small paper sign and the meek objections of a minimum wage employee.
If we have the good fortune to control congress along with the White House for the next two years, it would behoove us to codify what are currently just norms.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)Consequences of substance for ignoring subpoenas. A means of enforcing them. Mandatory votes on judicial appointees. Mandatory trial testimony after impeachment. They can vote how they choose on appointees, but they must at least vote. They can convict or acquit after impeachment, but they must hear evidence and testimony and have a trial.
And NO judicial appointments once voting has begun.
For starters. There are many more things to address.
dutch777
(5,068 posts)And they need to prosecute Trump et. al. for their crimes as there needs to be a cost.
Cha
(319,067 posts)More Money!
Good I'm glad they're pointing fingers at the gaslighting Stooge ronna romney mcdaniel!
yellowcanine
(36,788 posts)Horrible greedy conniving people.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Fuck your feelings, with a cactus. Couldnt happen to a better group of shitstains.
underpants
(196,490 posts)rpannier
(24,924 posts)They should have passed the 2k stimulus money
About 80% of Georgians supported it
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Cannot change spots on the leopard nor stripes on the tiger.
sdfernando
(6,084 posts)As I remember all 3 basically said the same thing. They need to be more inclusive and expand their base. Instead they went in the opposite direction utilizing voter suppression tactics and amping up the racist B.S.
I'm sure they will do yet another postmortem, but will they actually LEARN anything?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)of votes when his two flunkies can't win eight weeks later?
Oh, yeah, these are "rigged" too?
And he had another rally in the reddest of the red areas just two nights ago?
wnylib
(26,008 posts)Harker
(17,780 posts)I doubt they'll find any.
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RVN VET71
(3,192 posts)Good one!
Harker
(17,780 posts)wnylib
(26,008 posts)Searching to see if there is one in the whole bunch, so they can get rid of it.
malaise
(296,085 posts)democrank
(12,596 posts)Hes a bridge over troubled waters, right?
SergeStorms
(20,585 posts)It's a magnificent civil war within their own traitorous party, and for that I couldn't be happier.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,201 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)because you are never going back.
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)When Republicans turn their vitriol on one another is when I start laughing out loud.
Seriously, after today's election certification in Congress, the GOP is going to be fatally fractured between those who follow the Constitution and the seditionists. They can't exist together so we'll see them split into two entities, I think. This is good because the seditionists need to be exposed, shunned and kept in their caves. Further, Democrats can use the Republican playbook for once by dividing and conquering the two factions.
PE Biden has a chance to be a monumentally important president.
Lonestarblue
(13,477 posts)I really hope that this time the rot in the Republican Party will finally face the light of day. This article in The Guardian clearly lays out at least some of the rot. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/05/trump-is-trying-to-thwart-democracy-itself-but-the-problem-is-deeper-than-one-man
The Republican Party is now the party of anti-democracy and fascism. The whole country needs that fact repeated over and over.
dalton99a
(94,109 posts)Cheney-style
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I'm OK either way...
durablend
(9,267 posts)No mention *at all* about Dems in Disarray from Politico?
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Ronna even gave up using her family name for the cause.
Or 'for the cult'.
sueh
(1,955 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)These guys know how to attack; it's gonna be delicious to watch them attack each other.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)The Lincoln Project. By that, I mean, TLP motivated moderate, reluctant Republicans, some of whom didn't vote often, to show up to oppose Trump, and in doing so they voted Republican for other state and federal offices.
They were absent yesterday. If you show up to oppose Trump and vote for Joe Biden, are you gonna show up to vote for David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler? After Trump's 11,780 vote call? The self-dealing laced with corruption was on display.
And the RNC hasn't a clue what went wrong. They will never figure it out.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)invasion of the Capital building and other places by trump's thugs. Not protesters, thugs. Every one of these thugs needs to be caught, dug out of their holes and charged w/ treason and sedition, no less. Time to lay down the gloves, and get tough. No more Mr. nice guy/gal. No more.