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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:52 AM

So non-stop 51/50 votes for the next 2 years?

I can already hear the screeching on this one. Hope Harris maintains perfect attendance...

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Reply So non-stop 51/50 votes for the next 2 years? (Original post)
shelshaw Jan 2021 OP
Chin music Jan 2021 #1
dubyadiprecession Jan 2021 #9
Chin music Jan 2021 #13
servermsh Jan 2021 #2
dsp3000 Jan 2021 #5
Chin music Jan 2021 #7
Karma13612 Jan 2021 #6
cally Jan 2021 #3
Karma13612 Jan 2021 #11
uponit7771 Jan 2021 #4
Chin music Jan 2021 #8
uponit7771 Jan 2021 #10
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #16
Tetrachloride Jan 2021 #14
Iliyah Jan 2021 #12
subterranean Jan 2021 #19
spicysista Jan 2021 #15
BlueStater Jan 2021 #17
DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #21
pnwmom Jan 2021 #18
Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #20

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Response to Chin music (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

9. We screech plenty, but don't always remember to back that up in the next election cycles.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:54 AM

2. I actually think we will get a number of Republican votes

Remember, for most things, Democrats are literally just doing standard good government stuff. A lot of things will pass with some Republican votes as well.

But, yes, some controversial things will be 50/50, and we'll be dependent on the likes of Manchin.

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Response to servermsh (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:56 AM

5. Manchin will have considerable power- he's the D's susan collins like it or not

Definitely more likeable and less slimy than collins though

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Response to servermsh (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:58 AM

6. Yes, we might get HELP from moderate GOP

Like Romney and Merkowski.

This might be the start of Bipartisanship in a grander scale.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:54 AM

3. Not likely

The last time this happened, bills were not brought to floor until assured of majority. VP only broke tie a few times.

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Response to cally (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:02 AM

11. Was McConnell

The majority leader??

He is responsible for a lot of nothing for years. With the Dems as Majority leader, more will be brought to the floor.

To clarify, I am figuring a 50-50 Senate with VP Harris breaking ties.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:55 AM

4. Only if they get rid of the filibuster, Moscow Mitch will lead a standing filibuster on EVERYTHING

... that they'll have to vote on to protect his asshole minions

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Response to Chin music (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

10. My understanding is 3 centrist dems don't want the filibuster to go, we'll be in a world of hurt if

... Moscow Mitch continues his hate of America via legislation.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:07 AM

16. If the filibuster still exists, Moscow Mitch retains power over what legislation passes.

We've got to strip him of every possible lever of power, so he'll just sit in his office and play with himself.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:02 AM

12. I know that Senator Sanders is a . . .

Independent, but who is the other Independent, and don't they usually side with the Democrats. Therefore, with Jon O's win, 50/50 D/R, plus two Independents.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:13 AM

19. The 50 includes the two independents.

The other one besides Sanders is Angus King of Maine.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:06 AM

15. I think there will be a few occasions where...

We'll get a few republican votes here and there. Stimulus, infrastructure, and healthcare may be areas of agreement. Not many, though.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:09 AM

17. Hopefully, Manchin will be a team player.

Yeah, yeah, I know hes from West Virginia and seems to be the only Democrat capable of winning there, but hes not up again until 2024 and hes 73. How many terms does he have left in him anyway? Theres going to be a Republican occupying that seat at some point in the near future no matter what he does. Its highly likely well lose the Senate again in 2022, so we need to make the most of this while it lasts.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:52 AM

21. It hasn't gotten much play nationally, but there

is something called the "Marshall Plan for Middle America" that would invest in renewable energy and away from the coal-centric economy of western PA, Ohio, WVa and KY.

Link: https://www.sustainablebusiness.pitt.edu/sites/default/files/mp4ma_roadmap_-_final_1.pdf

This would certainly interest Manchin, Portman, Capito and maybe even McConnell and/or Paul.

I think senators would coalesce around these kinds of proposals.

Raising taxes would run into opposition, but my solution would be to name these bills "The Donald J Trump Deficit and Debt Reduction Acts" and dare Rs to vote against anything with the name "Donald J Trump" in it.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

18. No. McConnell was able to prevent his members from ever taking votes on otherwise popular measures

that he didn't want to be passed -- i.e., anything a Democrat would put forward

Now they will be on record: a Democrat will be able to propose a bill, and the R won't have to vote for it -- but he will be on record. And if he's comfortable voting against the 2,000 or healthcare or whatever, then so be it.

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Response to shelshaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 10:37 AM

20. You will see several

 

Rethug Senators retire early and especially in Republican States where the Gov can select a replacement to finish out their terms. Put money on it.

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