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So non-stop 51/50 votes for the next 2 years? (Original Post) shelshaw Jan 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #1
We screech plenty, but don't always remember to back that up in the next election cycles. dubyadiprecession Jan 2021 #9
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I actually think we will get a number of Republican votes servermsh Jan 2021 #2
Manchin will have considerable power- he's the D's susan collins like it or not dsp3000 Jan 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #7
Yes, we might get HELP from moderate GOP Karma13612 Jan 2021 #6
Not likely cally Jan 2021 #3
Was McConnell Karma13612 Jan 2021 #11
Only if they get rid of the filibuster, Moscow Mitch will lead a standing filibuster on EVERYTHING uponit7771 Jan 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #8
My understanding is 3 centrist dems don't want the filibuster to go, we'll be in a world of hurt if uponit7771 Jan 2021 #10
If the filibuster still exists, Moscow Mitch retains power over what legislation passes. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Tetrachloride Jan 2021 #14
I know that Senator Sanders is a . . . Iliyah Jan 2021 #12
The 50 includes the two independents. subterranean Jan 2021 #19
I think there will be a few occasions where... spicysista Jan 2021 #15
Hopefully, Manchin will be a team player. BlueStater Jan 2021 #17
It hasn't gotten much play nationally, but there DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #21
No. McConnell was able to prevent his members from ever taking votes on otherwise popular measures pnwmom Jan 2021 #18
You will see several Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #20

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #9)

servermsh

(1,406 posts)
2. I actually think we will get a number of Republican votes
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:54 AM
Jan 2021

Remember, for most things, Democrats are literally just doing standard good government stuff. A lot of things will pass with some Republican votes as well.

But, yes, some controversial things will be 50/50, and we'll be dependent on the likes of Manchin.

dsp3000

(684 posts)
5. Manchin will have considerable power- he's the D's susan collins like it or not
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:56 AM
Jan 2021

Definitely more likeable and less slimy than collins though

Response to dsp3000 (Reply #5)

Karma13612

(4,967 posts)
6. Yes, we might get HELP from moderate GOP
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jan 2021

Like Romney and Merkowski.

This might be the start of Bipartisanship in a grander scale.

cally

(21,858 posts)
3. Not likely
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:54 AM
Jan 2021

The last time this happened, bills were not brought to floor until assured of majority. VP only broke tie a few times.

Karma13612

(4,967 posts)
11. Was McConnell
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jan 2021

The majority leader??

He is responsible for a lot of nothing for years. With the Dems as Majority leader, more will be brought to the floor.

To clarify, I am figuring a 50-50 Senate with VP Harris breaking ties.

uponit7771

(93,523 posts)
4. Only if they get rid of the filibuster, Moscow Mitch will lead a standing filibuster on EVERYTHING
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jan 2021

... that they'll have to vote on to protect his asshole minions

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

uponit7771

(93,523 posts)
10. My understanding is 3 centrist dems don't want the filibuster to go, we'll be in a world of hurt if
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jan 2021

... Moscow Mitch continues his hate of America via legislation.

16. If the filibuster still exists, Moscow Mitch retains power over what legislation passes.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:07 AM
Jan 2021

We've got to strip him of every possible lever of power, so he'll just sit in his office and play with himself.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. I know that Senator Sanders is a . . .
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jan 2021

Independent, but who is the other Independent, and don't they usually side with the Democrats. Therefore, with Jon O's win, 50/50 D/R, plus two Independents.

subterranean

(3,753 posts)
19. The 50 includes the two independents.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:13 AM
Jan 2021

The other one besides Sanders is Angus King of Maine.

spicysista

(1,731 posts)
15. I think there will be a few occasions where...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:06 AM
Jan 2021

We'll get a few republican votes here and there. Stimulus, infrastructure, and healthcare may be areas of agreement. Not many, though.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
17. Hopefully, Manchin will be a team player.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jan 2021

Yeah, yeah, I know he’s from West Virginia and seems to be the only Democrat capable of winning there, but he’s not up again until 2024 and he’s 73. How many terms does he have left in him anyway? There’s going to be a Republican occupying that seat at some point in the near future no matter what he does. It’s highly likely we’ll lose the Senate again in 2022, so we need to make the most of this while it lasts.

DeminPennswoods

(17,374 posts)
21. It hasn't gotten much play nationally, but there
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:52 AM
Jan 2021

is something called the "Marshall Plan for Middle America" that would invest in renewable energy and away from the coal-centric economy of western PA, Ohio, WVa and KY.

Link: https://www.sustainablebusiness.pitt.edu/sites/default/files/mp4ma_roadmap_-_final_1.pdf

This would certainly interest Manchin, Portman, Capito and maybe even McConnell and/or Paul.

I think senators would coalesce around these kinds of proposals.

Raising taxes would run into opposition, but my solution would be to name these bills "The Donald J Trump Deficit and Debt Reduction Acts" and dare Rs to vote against anything with the name "Donald J Trump" in it.

pnwmom

(110,236 posts)
18. No. McConnell was able to prevent his members from ever taking votes on otherwise popular measures
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jan 2021

that he didn't want to be passed -- i.e., anything a Democrat would put forward

Now they will be on record: a Democrat will be able to propose a bill, and the R won't have to vote for it -- but he will be on record. And if he's comfortable voting against the 2,000 or healthcare or whatever, then so be it.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. You will see several
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jan 2021

Rethug Senators retire early and especially in Republican States where the Gov can select a replacement to finish out their terms. Put money on it.

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