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Wicked Blue

(5,830 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 05:17 PM Jan 2021

Biden: "Our democracy is under unprecedented assault"

Biden: "Our democracy is under unprecedented assault"

From CNN's Maureen Chowdhury

President-elect Joe Biden addressed the riots that erupted at the US Capitol building, calling it an "assault" on democracy.

"At this hour, our democracy's under unprecedented assault. Unlike anything we've seen in modern times. An assault on the citadel of liberty, the Capitol itself. An assault on the people's representatives and the Capitol Hill police, sworn to protect them. And the public servants who work at the heart of our Republic... Let me be very clear. The scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America. Do not represent who we are. What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness. This is not dissent. It's disorder. It's chaos. It borders on sedition. And it must end now," Biden said.

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Biden: "Our democracy is under unprecedented assault" (Original Post) Wicked Blue Jan 2021 OP
And the question is this -- if Trump refuses to end it, who will come forward to end it -- and... Farmgirl1961 Jan 2021 #1
I Feel For Biden Right Now..... global1 Jan 2021 #2
It doesn't border on sedition. LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #3
this geardaddy Jan 2021 #4
Why is this so clear to sane and rational people birdographer Jan 2021 #6
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #5
"Borders on sedition" forsooth? malthaussen Jan 2021 #7
Kick UCmeNdc Jan 2021 #8

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
1. And the question is this -- if Trump refuses to end it, who will come forward to end it -- and...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jan 2021

How in the hell will it end?

We honestly cannot endure one more day, not one more hour, minute or second of the Trump shitstain show.

global1

(25,239 posts)
2. I Feel For Biden Right Now.....
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jan 2021

Capitol Hill and the Capitol Building has been his home over much of his career. It has to be very hurtful to Joe to see this happening to it.

LudwigPastorius

(9,127 posts)
3. It doesn't border on sedition.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

It is sedition.

Trump and Giuliani deserve 20 years in prison, per the U.S. Code.

*Giuliani admonishing MAGAts to violently overthrow the election a 0:35

?

Trump's followers, 10 years each.


18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or both.

18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

birdographer

(1,322 posts)
6. Why is this so clear to sane and rational people
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 06:48 PM
Jan 2021

and yet nothing will be done. Nothing. Zero consequences. I'd love to be wrong but I doubt it. trump's thugs will go home and will forever regale their friends with the story of what they did today, laughing and drinking toasts to it. Not one arrest, no consequences at all. And trump himself? You'll find him at the golf course every day. Or McDonalds. Telling anyone who will listen that he won the election by a landslide and it was stolen from him.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
7. "Borders on sedition" forsooth?
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jan 2021

Armed combat with Capitol police and Federal agents inside a Federal building is more than sedition, Joe. It is armed insurrection and should be treated accordingly.

-- Mal

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