About the woman who died...RIP you didn't deserve to die.

[Lunabell]

Unless she had a gun drawn, she shouldn't have been shot. The amount of glee on this site over her death disturbs me. We are better than that.

[BusyBeingBest]

1. I haven't seen much glee, just shrugs.

Put me down as a shrug.

[RAB910]

2. play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[mr_lebowski]

3. I'm not ... but I'm glad some others are. Not telling anyone how to feel about it :) nt

[BadDog40]

4. Bullshit

More of them should have been shot. If you try to storm the WH I guarantee you would be shot.

[Mystery sage]

31. Agreed

You don't just come up to a federal building much less congess and storm it. No matter who you are you should be riddled with holes when you try.

[Maru Kitteh]

151. Well said! nt

[uncle ray]

5. like hell she didn't.

[soothsayer]

6. I wonder why out of everyone she got shot?

[Irish_Dem]

25. A witness said that the SS or police told her to move back from the main chamber and she refused

to do so. So she defied a direct order to move away. Perhaps there were congressional members still in the chamber.

[soothsayer]

30. Huh, she looked to be climbing through a window

But no idea really

[Irish_Dem]

32. Right, that is what the witness said, they were in front of a window near the chamber.

But maybe the witness was wrong.

[soothsayer]

34. Oh a window near the chamber

[Nevilledog]

37. She shoved thru a duffel bag and then started to climb thru

[dware]

41. And considering that 2 explosive devices had already been found,

what were the police to think when she tried to push that duffle bag through the broken window?

As I said earlier, I'm sorry for her and her family, but her death is because of her actions.

[Midnight Writer]

94. Exactly. Could have been anything in the duffle. Guns, bombs, ammo.

I hope the duffle was recovered and examined by police.

[Irish_Dem]

127. She is a military vet so could have access and knowledge of weapons.

I am sorry for her and her family, but she knew better.

[mcar]

126. She was climbing into Pelosi's office

No sympathy for a terrorist.

[Solomon]

124. All she had to do is just obey the cops. Isn't that what they always say about blacks getting

killed by cops?

[OnlinePoker]

38. In the Reddit video I posted in another thread, she was trying to climb into the chamber.

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One shot was heard.

edited to take away erroneous info.

[fleur-de-lisa]

48. Jesus. Sixteen.

[Progressive Jones]

154. Not too many 16 year old military vets in the U.S. nt

[obamanut2012]

174. No she wasn't, she served in the AF for 14 years

[smb]

181. I Didn't Know The Air Force Was Recruiting Toddlers /s

(But then again, if a toddler can be President, why not?)

[SMC22307]

54. Can you please share the video here?

(Scratch that, I found it in another thread.)

[Celerity]

83. here (warning, it's VERY graphic)

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Montauk6]

88. Not to stir anything up but...

...are we so sure it wasn't "friendly" fire? I'm sure there will be an investigation as well as it should be.

[Celerity]

96. everything I have seen said it was the Secret Service, and they warned them to stop trying to

enter the chamber.

She had a duffel bag, was pushing it through the window they had broken to gain entry, so perhaps the SS thought it was an IED. Not entirely sure on the entire lead-up.

She played the traitor's game, and paid the traitor's price. Zero sympathy as insurrectionists know damn well they could likely die.

[dware]

103. Considering that 2 explosive devices had been found earlier,

what the hell were the police to think?

[SMC22307]

93. Thank you.

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On edit: Evidently this is the woman who was killed:

https://www.kusi.com/kusi-news-confirms-identity-of-woman-shot-and-killed-inside-us-capitol/

NBC reported earlier that she was shot in the chest.

[Denzil_DC]

116. No, she wasn't 16.

She's been identified and described as "a fourteen-year veteran", which I guess would probably put her in her mid to late 30s.

[Retrograde]

122. 32 at the youngest

which would make her eligible to be a representative or a senator - one of the people she was trying to intimidate.

No, I have no sympathy for her. Sure, she's a youngish white woman, but she's an adult and should be held responsible for her actions. Try to overthrow a government, accept the consequences.

[SMC22307]

117. Evidently this is the woman who was killed...

https://www.kusi.com/kusi-news-confirms-identity-of-woman-shot-and-killed-inside-us-capitol/

[Irish_Dem]

128. Army veteran with intelligence experience. She knew better.

And what did she have in the duffle bag?

[SMC22307]

130. I learned in another thread she's a Q loon.

I can't really muster much sympathy...

[Irish_Dem]

131. Right. nt

[Yeehah]

168. Air Force, not Army

Just to clarify.

[Irish_Dem]

184. oops sorry, thanks for the correction! nt

[obamanut2012]

172. No she wasn't, she served in the AF for 14 years

Good lord, edit your post.

[fleur-de-lisa]

44. She looked to be the only one climbing through the window

The men were probably to big to fit through. It was a window set within a wooden door leading to some interior room.

[Blue_true]

67. Someone pointed out that she was trying to push a bag through the window.

Could have easily been a bomb, no one on the other side of those doors knew. The shooting in such an instance sounds justified.

[dware]

81. Yep.

And considering that 2 explosive devices had already been found, what were the police to think?

[Blue_true]

198. I wonder what the people saying that she should not have been shot

would be saying if she had been wearing a hijab under the same circumstances?

[dware]

200. Oh, I think it's a safe bet on what they would have said. nt

[Irish_Dem]

185. Exactly. Could have been weapons of some sort.

Wonder what was actually in the bag and why she was hell bent on pushing it through the
window.

[Apollo Zeus]

193. GRAPHIC -- They battered their way through internal security doors and windows

And were only a few feet away from the Chamber. Were warned and the moment she breaches the interior they fire.

First video is her being shot dead. I note that other Capital security officers are down range (behind her) where they could have been hit by bullets or frags.

Second video is the kid who helped push her in and who looks and sounds oddly similar to Kyle Rittenhouse. Allowed to walk away with blood literally on his hands:

[Silent3]

7. I'll admit it

I’m not better than that. My willingness to extend sympathy has limits.

[idziak4ever1234]

8. Being dumb can be fatal. She woke up this morning not expecting it to be her last day.

[Walleye]

9. I agree. She was young. Send her to prison but don't shoot her. It was in the Capitol, a s

A stain on our country. I also have sympathy for whoever shot her. Guess I’m just a bleeding heart liberal

[Demsrule86]

65. You know what she was a danger to others. She should not have stormed the

Capitol.

[Walleye]

75. Of course. But we can't regret the loss of life?

[Blue_true]

76. She had a bag with her. What if that was a bomb? Should they have let her set it off? nt

[Walleye]

78. I'm sure that whoever shot her will be going over that question in their mind for the rest of their

[rockfordfile]

86. the problem with that is she could have been carrying a gun when she broken into the capital

The trump supporters are dangerous to our country

[Walleye]

91. That's true she brought it on herself, but it's still a tragedy

[JI7]

145. Yes, it was a tragedy but not the part of her getting shot and killed

[demtenjeep]

10. play stupid games

win stupid prizes

[Cobalt Violet]

11. Shit happens when you storm the capital.

[SMC22307]

51. You got that right. (n/t)

[rockfordfile]

87. I agree

[ecstatic]

115. I think that's where I'm at too. If you storm the Capitol building

alongside armed thugs, I assume you understand the risks involved?

[Aristus]

12. I sure saw a lot of glee among those animals as they ransacked our Capitol building.

It's not like they thought no one would get hurt; they were counting on it...

[Downtown Hound]

13. She was participating in a criminal assault with

armed men intent on stealing our democracy. Screw her.

I do feel bad that anybody is dumb enough to throw their life away on such a shit cause, but she made her choice. Good riddance.

[Drahthaardogs]

14. Disagree.

Running into a political chamber threatening violence pretty much checks the boxes for getting yourself killed

[BusyBeingBest]

23. Yeah. Who knew what she was planning--any of them?

[BGBD]

120. What she was planning?

It doesn't matter. She was violently breaking into the Speakers Lobby with an armed mob.

"Let's hear her out!"

Don't be so naive. These people want your blood.

[BusyBeingBest]

121. That's my point though--law enforcement didn't know

what the window-breakers were up to--for all they knew this person and her cohorts were coming to kill Congresspeople. Not sure she deserves too much pity when she's the one who decided to break and enter.

[BGBD]

143. Ok

I misunderstood your point.

[treestar]

136. Grabbing a cops taser is not enough

So how does this compare ?

[Drahthaardogs]

140. Being part of a vigilante mob

Duh

[dware]

15. She was shot while trying to push a duffle bag through the broken window,

considering that 2 explosive devices were already found, what were the police to think?

I feel bad that she is dead, but that's on her.

[blm]

17. Exactly.

[MontanaFarmer]

16. I feel no joy.

I'm sad and pissed about the circumstances that led her there. But I'm not summoning much sympathy, if you storm the us capitol while congress is in session, you bought the ticket and need to be fully prepared to take the ride.

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. I really dont care....

[keithsw]

19. People die everyday

From doing something stupid. She was stupid. I take no joy in stating it, just the facts

[tinrobot]

20. Thank you for saying that.

I don't think any death should be celebrated.

[Frasier Balzov]

21. I commend your kindness.

Without reservation.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Look, if violent mobs are breaking into secure place with elected officials as targets, you don't

You don't hang around in a mob like that if you have any intelligence. She was old enough to know, as was Kyle Rittenhouse.

The police inside the chamber with guns drawn showed them to the protestors.

If a mob is angrily breaking into a chamber with people you are sworn to protect, you don't pussyfoot around.

Do NOT forget that a militia had plotted to kidnap a Governor and kill state legislators. You don't expect the defenders in the chamber to read the minds of the mob and say oh it's okay, let them in, they are simply protesters.

[oro]

24. Many people died during the BLM protests

A skinny kid holding a boombox at a distance from police was shot pointblank in the forehead with a so-called rubber bullet and is probably permanently disabled. The roster of black and brown men and women horribly brutalized or killed protesting for the basic right to exist in the U.S. is long. This woman had invaded the sanctum of democracy. Medea Benjamin just stands up to speak and gets dragged off like an animal.
Interesting that with a choice of white rioters, the cops shot the woman.

[Blue_true]

90. She was apparently or had pushed a bag through the broken window.

That bag could have contained a bomb. I believe that is why she was shot.

[Bettie]

26. No glee

just no particular sympathy either.

[StarfishSaver]

134. Given how often on this board I've had to defend unarmed black men shot dead by the police

from people who claimed it's their fault they were shot because they "didn't comply with orders" or the cop "was in fear for his life" or "didn't know for sure he wasn't armed," I don't have any patience tonight with anyone trying to claim this woman was some kind of innocent victim.

[Bettie]

141. I get that too

I have a similar lack of patience with that attitude and have pushed back against it myself.

Fact is, she was involved in an act of domestic terrorism and it was directed at our government for the purpose of disrupting certification of an election.

No sympathy, no patience. Not for this.

Plus, the capitol police were downright gentle with this group of assclowns.

[StarfishSaver]

142. It's downright amazing that only one person was shot

And we know if these were Black or Brown people, there would have been dead bodies everywhere.

[Bettie]

161. Yes, there would have been

many more had they been black or brown.

It is sickening and frustrating (that seems like a weak word for the feeling).

[kcr]

27. They planned on executing staffers

She went along with them. Shame on you.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

40. They did? What's your source for that? NT

[kcr]

58. LOL

You're right. They were busting in to give out hugs.

Go away.

[sheshe2]

114. This?

Also their were videos of the police opening the gates and ushering them in. They never would have gotten as close as they did without help. This was planned and the capital police were complicit. See the gates opening and the selfies.




Trumpists intended to take members of Congress hostage, hold show trials, conduct executions


snip

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/6/2006463/-Insurrectionists-intended-to-take-members-of-Congress-hostage-hold-show-trials-as-police-stood-by

[Demsrule86]

69. Really, they were planning to execute people in the capitol...why the hell were they allowed to walk

out.

[kcr]

72. Good question

[Mike Nelson]

28. Agree...

... very sorry for any death or injury... hope there is no more.

[USALiberal]

29. Nope! Nt

[d_b]

33. she looked young

early 20's. Probably born into a freakshow family who filled her with hate and horror from the time she could crawl. And one day she went to DC at the behest of a shitty conman and now she's dead.


I feel only sadness for her.

[BannonsLiver]

61. She literally died wearing a Trump flag as a cape.

It’s really pathetic and sad.

[obamanut2012]

176. She was in the Air Force fpr 14 years, she was not a kid

She was at least early 30s.

She knew exactly what she was doing and LOVED it. She constantly orgasmed all over her twitter how much she loved Trump and Q and violence.

The LEOs were protecting Congressional leadership, their own lives, and literally democracy.

[cwydro]

182. Nope, not that young.

Air Force vet.

[d_b]

190. I just read about it.

And I’ll admit... I don’t feel the sadness I did yesterday. Just shaking my head.

[Initech]

35. Totally disgusting what happened.

[AmyStrange]

36. +100000000000000000000000000000000 x 4

[USALiberal]

56. -999999999999999999999999999

[AmyStrange]

64. ???

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you need more nines
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[UnderThisLaw]

39. I didn't claim to be better than her

just more alive.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

42. I want to know some Real News about her before passing judgment.

No tweets, no so and so said. A Real News story with her name, age and what happened.

[Ilsa]

43. It wasn't a stupid game. It was a part of her act of treason.

She conspired with others to overthrow the govt. She was the one to pay the price. I bet trump hasn't even sent condolences.

[LanternWaste]

45. I feel badly she ignored the better angels of her nature.

But my feeling badly, or anyone feeling anything at all, changes nothing.

These visceral reactions you read rarely reflect on who we are... and in time, given both sober thought and genuflection, no one will be sincerely gleeful over her death. Indeed, I think that by Feb. the vast majority of DU will perceive her death as a tragedy in the most fundamental sense of the word.

Though a handful of posts will exploit this for their own narratives or self-validation, that number will be small. Don't mistake the current emotional confusion and visceral reactions in response to a day of unprecedented events to our eventual and collective response.

That said, for every knee-jerk reaction of 'glee' I read, I read ten more expressing sympathy over her and for her. I hope this soothes, or at least quiets your concern (and I write 'concern' sincerely rather than with sarcasm).

[BannonsLiver]

46. She bought the ticket, she took the ride.

That being said, I’m glad there are compassionate people out there like you. I’m all out of it myself. At least for these people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. She breached the Capital. It was an attack on all of us.

[StarfishSaver]

49. If a black man deserved to be shot in the back because he tried to get back into his car

I can't get worked up about a white woman who got shot by the police while breaking into the Capitol to participate in a riot.

[oro]

119. Well said.

[treestar]

146. If you are ok with the one

You are ok with the other.

[StarfishSaver]

149. No, I'm not

But I'm not surprised you would say that.

However, unlike you, I see the difference between an epidemic of unarmed black men posing no threat to anyone being killed (often shot in the back and/or while running away) by white police officers on various public streets because they claim they were in fear of their lives on one hand, and, on the other, a white woman who was part of a violent terrorist mob who overwhelmed Capitol Police to illegally storm the U.S. Capitol being shot by law enforcement after as she tried to force her way into the Speaker's Lobby which would have put her steps away from the House chamber.

It's perfectly rational to be ok with one and not ok with the other. Which one you're ok with and which one you're not ok with is very telling.

[irisblue]

163. I disagree with your point. I think you are using a Faulty Comparison Fallacy

Source-https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Faulty-Comparison

snip-"Logical Form:

X is different from Y in way Z.
It is unreasonable to compare X to Y in way Z.
Therefore, X is seen as more/less favorable.

example given-"Broccoli has significantly less fat than the leading candy bar! Explanation: While both broccoli and candy bars can be considered snacks, comparing the two in terms of fat content and ignoring the significant difference in taste, leads to the false comparison."

[Autumn]

50. You know who else didn't deserve to die? Heather Heyer and Summer Taylor to name a couple.

Neither of those two were with rioters climbing in through a broken window into the Capitol building while our politicians were in session doing the people business.

[dware]

85. +100. nt

[Retrograde]

129. Breonna Taylor didn't deserve to die

for having questionable taste in boyfriends. Ahmaud Arbery didn't deserve to die for jogging in the "wrong" neighborhood. Sorry, but if you're trying to overthrow the peaceful transition of power and are taking part in a riot you have to deal with the consequences.

[Autumn]

132. No many didn't deserve to die. But IMO this woman deserved what she got. I feel no sympathy

[treestar]

135. No one said they did

But suddenly it’s ok for the cops to shoot someone.

[Autumn]

139. When they are breaking into the Capital through a window pushing in a large duffel yeah cops can

shoot. I'm all outta fucks to give about stupid Republicans and Trump humpers.

[treestar]

148. I hate Republicans

But you’d never condone the opposite. Let’s not be hypocritical like they are.

[JonLP24]

152. The Capitol police should have never let it get that far

From what I understand it was the Secret Service that fired their weapon and they don't mess around when it comes to protecting elected officials.

[Autumn]

175. Anybody rioting who crawls through a broken window in the Capitol while they are in session

with a large duffel containing god knows what after there have been bombs found during their riot and ignores orders to stop I expect, no I hope, that law enforcement would shoot them. To not do so would be a dereliction of their duty. I don't have to worry about condoning the opposite. I'm not a hypocrite, I say exactly what I mean.
But you go on and do you.

[David__77]

52. I get your perspective.

I do not have glee about the killing of someone.

[ginny skinny]

53. I also read that a window was broken and she was attempting to shove a backpack or duffle...

...into the area where the police or security people were. I've read about eleventy-gazillion internet posts today and that was one. Let's wait for the real story to come out.

[coti]

55. She could also be the basis of felony murder charges

against any of the insurrectionists, assuming the invasion involved a felony of some kind (which I have to think there were many) and that DC has a felony murder law.

[Kaleva]

57. Unless one is very young and/or mentally deficient, I'm not going to feel sorry.

[drmeow]

59. One of the videos (reposted from twitter here on DU)

had that maced woman claiming this is a revolution - in revolutions, the other side shoots at you and people die. She's just a casualty of her own choices.

I'm not feeling glee - but I'm also not feeling the outrage I feel about George Floyd and Brianna Taylor, etc.

She was a victim - but she was not an innocent victim.

[Baked Potato]

60. It is bad her cause was not noble. Trump has changed everything,

including sadly, the reaction to violence and collateral damage. Innocence is lost in trying to deny me my legal and just Government. Her blood is on Republican hands.

I think some of the “glee” is from many good and decent folk who have just had enough of Trump violence and are exhibiting a brave face while at the same time are horrified at what has happened to our country.

[Blue_true]

62. Someone said that she was pushing something into the window.

What if that had been a bomb? The officer that shot her had no way of knowing. The shooting was justified.

[helpisontheway]

63. If she breached the building then ZERO sympathy. Nt

[tenderfoot]

68. Boo-fucking-woo

[Happy Hoosier]

70. I'm sorry she died... but 100% predictable NT

[HipChick]

71. It is what is...

I'm sure she wasn't expecting to die today..

[JI7]

73. There will be more sympathy for her including among white people on the left

than there is for Tamir Rice and many other black kids.

[Demsrule86]

79. Sad but true. Tamir Rice was a child. This woman joined an insurrection and stormed the capitol.

she was told to stop and kept going...her duffle bag could have contained weapons or a bomb.

[tenderfoot]

80. especially the OP

Kumbaya that.

[kcr]

84. Yep. It's predictable

[Raine]

74. I agree

R-I-P.

[AngryOldDem]

77. Sorry, having a hard time finding sympathy.

Her behavior was part of an aggressive mob action. Engage in that, then you accept the consequences.

[LAS14]

82. From what I can tell she wasn't threatening anyone's life. It looks like...

... another example of bad law enforcement training. Or maybe one of her buddies did it?

[Blue_true]

99. She had a FUCKING duffel bag that none of the officers knew what inside.

One of them did the right thing and shot her when she refused to stop. It would have been great if they had tazers instead, but her death is what it is and is on her and the parents who let a (by some accounts) get into the situation that she was in.

[LuckyCharms]

89. I understand your feelings, and I

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respect them.

I generally do not like to see people get killed.

However, in these strange times, I wrestle with the fact that over 3,600 people died of Covid today. I would think that many of those people did not "deserve" to have that disease foisted on them, and to basically die in obscurity except to those who knew and loved them.

I feel more for innocent people who have been shot by police. I feel more for those who were killed for minor infractions.

I can't say for certain whether this young woman "deserved" to die or not, because "deserve" is subjective. But I do wonder about what in her background eventually lead to her stupidity and apparent complete lack of awareness about what might happen to her if she tried to stuff a duffle bag through a broken window with a mob, in order to get to members of a sitting congress.

[ProfessorGAC]

92. If I Could Unrec A Thread...

...this would be a candidate.
Moralizing & preachy.
I hear enough of that from the far right.

[Blue_true]

105. I share you sentiments.

The woman was part of a violent mob. She was trying to stuff through a bag that could have easily contained a bomb. She was ordered to halt her activities and continued forward. She was no tall 11 year old innocently playing with a toy gun on a playground, who happened to turn in it’s direction when he heard a car approaching him.

[JI7]

108. +

[obamanut2012]

177. Exactly, Prof

[Tarc]

95. At the moment she was breaking through into the Capitol, she was no different than this guy

and this guy



and this guy




Fuck her.

[BlueNProud]

97. She was climbing up thru a shattered glass section to the right of the door. She was a terrorist.

Once on the other side she would have opened the door for the other loons to enter. I'm glad she's dead. Sorry.

[ginny skinny]

98. The video is on YT....(n/t)

[MustLoveBeagles]

100. I feel no glee just sadness for a life wasted on a stupid cause

[StarryNite]

101. She was a domestic terrorist.

She paid the ultimate price for her poor choice.

[tblue37]

102. Do we even know who shot her? It could have been a gun discharged from outside the door.

[Blue_true]

109. From what I have read, she was trying to push through a duffel bag.

She was ordered to halt and withdraw, but she kept on coming forward. The bag could have contained a bomb that could have killed nearby officers and congresspeople. IMO, they had no choice, it was not like they started firing away, they ordered her to stop, she refused.

[JCMach1]

104. She was committing multiple felonies...

She deserves the sympathy reserved for someone shot in that situation.

[Blue_true]

110. The bag that she was trying to push through or had pushed through could

have easily contained a bomb that could have killed or maimed Capitol Police, Secret Service and nearby congresspeople or staffers.

Screw her, she was doing a dangerous act, was ordered to retreat and refused to do so.

[JCMach1]

113. Exactly

[tenderfoot]

106. It's too soon to discuss gun violence.

That's exactly what your op is.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

186. What's your point? Disarm the Capitol Police? Good luck with that.

Unfortunate that she was pushing a duffel bag through a broken window while a cop was pointing a gun. Bad choice.

[tenderfoot]

191. She was shot by Secret Service

eom

[dware]

195. No, according to the Chief of the MPD,

she was shot by the Capitol Police and MPD is doing the investigation of the shooting.

[tenderfoot]

196. Regardless - she went there for a fight and paid for it

Zero sympathy given.

[dware]

197. Yes she did.

She decided, for whatever reason, to commit treason by storming the Capitol and refused the orders by police to not come through that broken window, she choose instead to ignore the order and try to make her way into the chambers where lawmakers were sheltering.

She choose badly.
Zero sympathy's here also.

[SlogginThroughIt]

107. Don't know if she deserved to or not

She definitely didn’t need to dir. But she broke into the capitol and was trespassing. Seems to me many of those people support the right to shoot trespassers.

[Blue_true]

111. She was trying to push a duffel bag through or had pushed it through

and was trying to climb through. I read that explosive devices were found in the Capitol today. We are about two weeks away from a guy setting off a bomb in an American city. What were the Capitol Police or Secret Service agents supposed to think given her actions, the circumstances of today and the fact that a guy recently set off a bomb? Were they supposed to not stop her and maybe let her set off a bomb that would have likely killed people in such close space?

Screw her. Her death is on her hands and the hands of the people that got her into the situation that she was in.

[dware]

112. +100. nt

[SlogginThroughIt]

118. Right.

That's why I said I don't know if she deserved to die. The OP said that she didn't deserve to die. But Ya'know trespassing and being a party to putting our capitol under siege seems like a pretty damned good way to put yourself in harms way.

My comment about her not having to die is that she could have made a better choice in life. I would have no problem with this person standing outside the capitol exercising her 1st amendment. But she decided to go way past that line and only has herself to blame. Unfortunately.

[mcar]

123. No pity

She was a terrorist. Period.

[MicaelS]

125. Fuck no! n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

133. Play stupid games,

...you know the rest.

[mcar]

137. Try this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214834693

[BainsBane]

138. She didn't deserve to die

but I can't find it in myself to give a shit.

[hatrack]

144. More than 4,000 Americans died from COVID today

Their deaths are attributable, in large measure, to an incompetent, selfish, stupid, narcissistic asshole currently occupying the Oval Office.

It was in His Holy Name that she decided to go do Call Of Duty cosplay at the US Capitol.

And . . . . (quick check) handkerchief still in pocket.

[treestar]

147. If she had been with

BLM. ( not that they would do any such thing ). We’d be furious. If BLM had stormed the Capitol the same way (not that they ever would) we’d be cheering them on. Do we have to be hypocritical like they are?

[backtoblue]

153. I found myself feeling nothing for this person's death earlier

I'm actually horrified at myself for my own lack of empathy.

I do not know this person or exactly what happened.

It's tragic no matter if it was a justified shooting or not. Trump and his enablers did this. He stoked the hate and the violence.

He might not have created these monsters, but he coaxed them out from under the beds.

[JI7]

160. No we wouldn't. People criticize liberal protests all the time here . Including things like blocking

roads and causing traffic .

[Turin_C3PO]

178. Bullshit.

No one here would support BLM storming the Capitol building. That’s “both sides” bullshit and you know it. This woman got what she deserved.

[IsItJustMe]

180. If BLM was the group that stormed the Capitol, they would all be dead right now. Now you see how

white privilege works. They shoot black people. They open the door for white people.

[kcr]

183. When you need two parenthetical asides

in your attempt to make an analogy work, it doesn't work, and your claim of hypocrisy is more than a little weak.

[joshcryer]

194. That is so ridiculous.

BLM doesn't break into government buildings when they make a display in them, they get the keys.

[Maru Kitteh]

150. Oh screw that. She decided to become a terrorist and terrorists DIE.

I have NO sympathy for her traitorous ass. Play stupid games win stupid fucking prizes.

She decided to become a terrorist. Her death didn't just "happen." She earned it.

[sir pball]

155. I don't care.

Do U?

[dalton99a]

156. She asked for it.

The shooting was absolutely justified.

[NNadir]

157. She was a thug killed in the commission of a violent crime. If it's OK to kill Eric Garner for...

...selling cigarettes, it is perfectly OK to shoot a woman carrying a back pack and kicking in a window.

There can be no sympathy for this criminal.

[greyl]

158. "THE REJECTION OF ALL RELIGIOUS AND MORAL PRINCIPLES, IN THE BELIEF THAT LIFE IS MEANINGLESS"/amway.

[tblue37]

159. Her actions are to blame. I will save my sympathy for the innocent.

[akbacchus_BC]

162. I will sympathize with innocent people who died from Covid. A tresspasser, not so much!

She played with fire and got burnt!

[mtnsnake]

164. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see people on this site expressing "glee" about her death

What I saw were people on this site who were concerned that the woman could have had a pack loaded with explosives or anything else dangerous and perhaps didn't obey strict orders to stay where she was. I saw people posting that it was too bad she was shot, but security needed to protect people in Congress who were being attacked by those intruders/terrorists.

Was security supposed to take a chance that she was breaking in to shake hands and give hugs to the people in Congress, or were they there to protect the lives of the people they were hired to protect? It's a shame someone was killed, but that woman put her life in the hands of Trump, followed his orders to go to DC to participate in the violence, and followed Giuliani's suggestion to "combat" the people in Congress.

[DLevine]

165. No sympathy from me. nt

[AmericanCanuck]

167. She was engaged in a criminal tresspassing act

She doesn't have to draw a gun to be shot.

[bif]

169. No sympathy here. She knew what she was getting into.

[Victory at Yorktown]

170. Yes she did. Breaking in to the inner halls of congress not enough?

Shoving a duffle bag thru a door that could have had an explosive device not enough?
That was the last line of defense. No one should have been allowed within 20 feet of the steps outside.

[obamanut2012]

171. Yes she did

As well as everyone else she was with at the door.

[rdking647]

173. all the terrorists who attacked the capitol should face felony murder charges

they committed a felony which resulted in her death. thats how felony murder works

[IsItJustMe]

179. No, she did not deserve that. Next time the police should allow these people in to harm whoever

they please whenever they please. God forbid stopping these maniacs from destroying our capital.







This is a disturbing post.

[Voltaire2]

187. play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[lagomorph777]

188. She chose her fate.

She participated in a heinous crime. Shit happens when you do that.

[marie999]

189. Why are people leaving it as trespassing?

It was an insurrection. She died trying to overthrow our government.

[Demsrule86]

192. How about the cop in critical condition...hit with a lead pipe...no sympathy for this terrorist...

when you crawl in a window with the speaker 100 feet away...what do you expect.

[Kahuna]

199. I'm saddened to see any unarmed person shot in the back. nt

[slutticus]

201. There was a line. She crossed it.

At what point between the entrance to the people's House and the VP/Speaker/Reps do you believe deadly force should be used to stop an insurrectionist mob shouting "hang the VP", one of which is climbing onto an obvious last-ditch barricade who happens to be wearing a backpack with unknown contents. All while ignoring the several police and Secret Service agents pointing their service weapons at the mob saying "get back"?

The fact that she got shot while the police were exercising the most unbelievable amount of restraint anyone has ever witnessed relative to the magnitude of the situation should tell you something.

I mean come on.... This isn't glee. It's just "WTF"