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Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 01:53 AM Jan 2021

I'm going to go out on a limb here regarding the woman who was "shot".

Last edited Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

I watched a couple of phone video clips, from different angles, over at Reddit (Yes, I showered afterward).

There is also a clip of medics rolling her out on a stretcher. She appears to have been shot in the neck, chest, or face.

Is it possible that while this woman was trying to climb through that broken window
a firearm or explosive on her person discharged, and the round struck her?

The armed police who were present were behind her, with several people between her and the police.

It will be interesting to find out what actually happened.


Here is the link to where I saw the clips. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krwd22/footage_of_woman_being_shot_inside_the_capitol/

On Edit: I'm wrong. Thanks for all the comments!

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I'm going to go out on a limb here regarding the woman who was "shot". (Original Post) Progressive Jones Jan 2021 OP
Probably not. Fact is, just about anyone climbing through a Capitol window Hoyt Jan 2021 #1
The odd thing is, in one angle you can see in the direction she was facing going through that window Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #3
I see a policeman holding a rifle and men in suits. Don't know what happened, Hoyt Jan 2021 #6
Doesn't Really Matter sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #2
Exactly. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #4
Dunno, gotta wait for 'Medical Examiner's report. elleng Jan 2021 #5
I read she was shot from inside the chambers. herding cats Jan 2021 #7
Based on what I could see, she was not shot from behind. Hard to tell if Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #10
It isn't that hard sarisataka Jan 2021 #15
Thanks. I'll look at it again. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #18
Watch the video sarisataka Jan 2021 #19
Upon further review, I'd say you are right. I can see a man in a suit down that corridor. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #20
I thought the police were on the other side of the doors where they were smashing the glass. Make7 Jan 2021 #8
This corresponds with what I read. herding cats Jan 2021 #14
I think she got too close to gldstwmn Jan 2021 #9
The Speaker's lobby door was barricaded, meaning people were in there,... brush Jan 2021 #11
That wasn't the Speaker's office - it was the Speaker's Lobby, which is right off the House floor StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13
Yes. And wouldn't the Speaker's lobby be a way to her office suite? brush Jan 2021 #17
The Speaker's Lobby is the name for the lobby right outside of the House Chamber on the second floor StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #21
Ahhh. Thanks. brush Jan 2021 #28
The Speaker's Office Is Very Close To The House Chambers sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #22
The Speaker's office is upstairs. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #23
My take StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #12
Agree. They didn't pile all that furniture in front of that door just for kicks. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #24
It absolutely came from inside the lobby. BGBD Jan 2021 #25
It is disgusting to see some of the same people who tried to tell me last summer StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #27
Thank You. She must never be seen as a victim. Period. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #31
Your take fits what I've gleaned from reporters today. herding cats Jan 2021 #26
She was a violent thug, shut during the commission of a serious crime. May she rot in hell. n/t. NNadir Jan 2021 #16
I'm gonna sit here with NNadir on this one. TeamPooka Jan 2021 #29
She was deranged Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #30
Here is the woman killed and here is a kid confessing to the whole thing... winstars Jan 2021 #32
The video I saw was very clear pfitz59 Jan 2021 #33
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Probably not. Fact is, just about anyone climbing through a Capitol window
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:00 AM
Jan 2021

should expect they will be stopped, by bullets if necessary. If there are less lethal ways to stop them, I’m all for it. They never should have made it to the steps.

I have no idea what happened here, but I’m sure she’ll become a white wing martyr just like racist Randy Weaver and child rapist David Koresh.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
3. The odd thing is, in one angle you can see in the direction she was facing going through that window
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:02 AM
Jan 2021

There doesn't appear to be anyone in front of her in that corridor.

I don't know. Just a thought I had.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I see a policeman holding a rifle and men in suits. Don't know what happened,
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:10 AM
Jan 2021

but there were a lot of people and police looked like they were backed up. Might have fired out of fear or to protect Senate or House chambers.

I don’t know either, but I think it’s likely police shot her and it was warranted.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
10. Based on what I could see, she was not shot from behind. Hard to tell if
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:19 AM
Jan 2021

there was someone in the corridor beyond the window she was climbing through.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
15. It isn't that hard
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:25 AM
Jan 2021

in the clip taken from behind her you can see a uniformed security officer taking cover on the left side of the corridor just beyond the barricade. He is most likely the one who shot her although he is concealed enough that no weapon can be seen.

Later in the same clip several other people can be seen father down the corridor who may also be security.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
19. Watch the video
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:33 AM
Jan 2021


at the 41-42 second mark you can see the security person take a firing stance and the shot is heard immediately

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
20. Upon further review, I'd say you are right. I can see a man in a suit down that corridor.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:33 AM
Jan 2021

Didn't see him before.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
8. I thought the police were on the other side of the doors where they were smashing the glass.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:14 AM
Jan 2021

My first impression was that it looked like she, or someone next to her, was pushing a black duffle bag towards the window intending to drop it on the other side of the door.

What was in the bag, or if that was the actual intention, are unknown to me. If my job is to protect the members of Congress, I'm not letting someone that just smashed the glass out of a door toss something of unknown nature on my side of of that door.

I read she had served in the military in some security related assignment - if true, she should've had a much better awareness of how the person on the other side of the door might react to such a perceivable threat.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
14. This corresponds with what I read.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:25 AM
Jan 2021

After the window was breached the perception was a bag was being pushed in before her and she was stopped.

brush

(53,765 posts)
11. The Speaker's lobby door was barricaded, meaning people were in there,...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:20 AM
Jan 2021

I think security would move to protect the Speaker, second in line to be president, during a violent insurrection with rioters trying to break into her office. That terrorist was a veteran of four tours so she had to know what happens when defending against insurrections or when staging them.

It's serious, not cosplay. There is danger. She participated in storming the nation's capitol and tried to break into a barricaded office.

She got shot. That's not an unexpected development in such a scenario. She made a bad decision she should've known better than and is to blame for what happened to her.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. That wasn't the Speaker's office - it was the Speaker's Lobby, which is right off the House floor
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:24 AM
Jan 2021

But I think you're right - there was probably some serious security in there and they shot her when she came through that broken window.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
21. The Speaker's Lobby is the name for the lobby right outside of the House Chamber on the second floor
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:37 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 7, 2021, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)

The Speaker's office is upstairs.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
22. The Speaker's Office Is Very Close To The House Chambers
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:38 AM
Jan 2021

That was the hallway which provided access to her office.

Her office was breached eventually, there's pictures of a guy behind her desk.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. My take
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:22 AM
Jan 2021

I think she was shot by plainclothes Capitol Police in the Speaker's Lobby. I got the impression the uniformed Capitol Police officers didn't have lethal force authorization, which explains why none of them shot at any of the rioters. They seemed almost helpless - some of them actually just backing up out of the way. The officers in that hallway seemed they were more focused on clearing the area than subduing the people.

But when she started through that window, she was immediately shot. I think there were higher level security in the Speaker's lobby - possibly from the Speaker's plainclothes detail - who were protecting the lobby because it leads directly to the House floor and who are authorized to shoot anyone posing a threat.

Of course, I don't know. But that's my guess.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
24. Agree. They didn't pile all that furniture in front of that door just for kicks.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:39 AM
Jan 2021

They really didn’t want anyone in there.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
25. It absolutely came from inside the lobby.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:47 AM
Jan 2021

You can see other windows get broke and when they look through they start yelling about guns and one of them tries to stop her from climbing in. She didn't listen.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
27. It is disgusting to see some of the same people who tried to tell me last summer
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:50 AM
Jan 2021

that police were justified in shooting an unarmed black man seven times in the back and another unarmed black man who was running away from them because they were supposedly in fear of their lives now wring their hands and insist that a white woman who got shot while rioting in the U.S. Capitol was an innocent victim of unnecessary deadly force.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
26. Your take fits what I've gleaned from reporters today.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:48 AM
Jan 2021

They were protecting the House floor. I suspect there were still Congresspeople there since they had a delay in evacuating the ones in the gallery.

What she did was foolish and dangerous. This wasn't a game like so many of them seemed to think.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
32. Here is the woman killed and here is a kid confessing to the whole thing...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:44 AM
Jan 2021

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A tweet from the woman from... yesterday?


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pfitz59

(10,358 posts)
33. The video I saw was very clear
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:22 AM
Jan 2021

She was shot by a plains clothes officer defending a barricaded doorway. Clean shot in the chest. He did his job.

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