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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm going to go out on a limb here regarding the woman who was "shot".
Last edited Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)
I watched a couple of phone video clips, from different angles, over at Reddit (Yes, I showered afterward).
There is also a clip of medics rolling her out on a stretcher. She appears to have been shot in the neck, chest, or face.
Is it possible that while this woman was trying to climb through that broken window
a firearm or explosive on her person discharged, and the round struck her?
The armed police who were present were behind her, with several people between her and the police.
It will be interesting to find out what actually happened.
Here is the link to where I saw the clips. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krwd22/footage_of_woman_being_shot_inside_the_capitol/
On Edit: I'm wrong. Thanks for all the comments!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)should expect they will be stopped, by bullets if necessary. If there are less lethal ways to stop them, Im all for it. They never should have made it to the steps.
I have no idea what happened here, but Im sure shell become a white wing martyr just like racist Randy Weaver and child rapist David Koresh.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)There doesn't appear to be anyone in front of her in that corridor.
I don't know. Just a thought I had.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)but there were a lot of people and police looked like they were backed up. Might have fired out of fear or to protect Senate or House chambers.
I dont know either, but I think its likely police shot her and it was warranted.
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)She had no business doing what she was.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)In her front.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)there was someone in the corridor beyond the window she was climbing through.
sarisataka
(18,600 posts)in the clip taken from behind her you can see a uniformed security officer taking cover on the left side of the corridor just beyond the barricade. He is most likely the one who shot her although he is concealed enough that no weapon can be seen.
Later in the same clip several other people can be seen father down the corridor who may also be security.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)sarisataka
(18,600 posts)at the 41-42 second mark you can see the security person take a firing stance and the shot is heard immediately
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Didn't see him before.
Make7
(8,543 posts)My first impression was that it looked like she, or someone next to her, was pushing a black duffle bag towards the window intending to drop it on the other side of the door.
What was in the bag, or if that was the actual intention, are unknown to me. If my job is to protect the members of Congress, I'm not letting someone that just smashed the glass out of a door toss something of unknown nature on my side of of that door.
I read she had served in the military in some security related assignment - if true, she should've had a much better awareness of how the person on the other side of the door might react to such a perceivable threat.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)After the window was breached the perception was a bag was being pushed in before her and she was stopped.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Someone with a security detail. We will find out in the coming days.
brush
(53,765 posts)I think security would move to protect the Speaker, second in line to be president, during a violent insurrection with rioters trying to break into her office. That terrorist was a veteran of four tours so she had to know what happens when defending against insurrections or when staging them.
It's serious, not cosplay. There is danger. She participated in storming the nation's capitol and tried to break into a barricaded office.
She got shot. That's not an unexpected development in such a scenario. She made a bad decision she should've known better than and is to blame for what happened to her.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But I think you're right - there was probably some serious security in there and they shot her when she came through that broken window.
brush
(53,765 posts)StarfishSaver
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The Speaker's office is upstairs.
brush
(53,765 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)That was the hallway which provided access to her office.
Her office was breached eventually, there's pictures of a guy behind her desk.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I think she was shot by plainclothes Capitol Police in the Speaker's Lobby. I got the impression the uniformed Capitol Police officers didn't have lethal force authorization, which explains why none of them shot at any of the rioters. They seemed almost helpless - some of them actually just backing up out of the way. The officers in that hallway seemed they were more focused on clearing the area than subduing the people.
But when she started through that window, she was immediately shot. I think there were higher level security in the Speaker's lobby - possibly from the Speaker's plainclothes detail - who were protecting the lobby because it leads directly to the House floor and who are authorized to shoot anyone posing a threat.
Of course, I don't know. But that's my guess.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)They really didnt want anyone in there.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)You can see other windows get broke and when they look through they start yelling about guns and one of them tries to stop her from climbing in. She didn't listen.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)that police were justified in shooting an unarmed black man seven times in the back and another unarmed black man who was running away from them because they were supposedly in fear of their lives now wring their hands and insist that a white woman who got shot while rioting in the U.S. Capitol was an innocent victim of unnecessary deadly force.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)They were protecting the House floor. I suspect there were still Congresspeople there since they had a delay in evacuating the ones in the gallery.
What she did was foolish and dangerous. This wasn't a game like so many of them seemed to think.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,039 posts)Link to tweet
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winstars
(4,220 posts)pfitz59
(10,358 posts)She was shot by a plains clothes officer defending a barricaded doorway. Clean shot in the chest. He did his job.