Pelosi to Pence: You choose. 25th Amendment or we will Impeach him a 2nd time.

[madaboutharry]

Pelosi: "He is dangerous. If you don't do something about it then we will."

[SheltieLover]

1. Excellent!

Should impeach anyway! Prevent him from fundraising for 2024.

[woodsprite]

2. The only problem is, if they impeach,

It's nothing without the Senate removing him, and there are enough teabaggers, Qanon-ers, and other assholes in the senate that it still may not work.

At least if they 25th amendment him, Pence is Acting President until the inauguration.

[Squidly]

4. even without a conviction

it still prevents him from running again in 24. need to get him out of there, but that would also be a victory

[LeftInTX]

8. How did he run in 2020 with an impeachment?

[Renew Deal]

10. That's incorrect.

That only applies with Senate conviction.

[dware]

21. And, after the conviction,

the Senate would have to take a second vote banning him from ever holding office again.

[SoonerPride]

11. How is that?

Please explain.

[bearsfootball516]

12. Has to be convicted to prevent him from running again.

Impeachment alone is a stain on his record, but that's it. It doesn't have real weight without conviction.

[StarfishSaver]

15. Not true. Impeachment alone won't prevent him from running again

Otherwise, he'd already be banned, given that he's already been impeached.

He'd have to be convicted by 2/3 of the Senate and then the Senate would have to take a second vote to ban him from federal office.

[dware]

20. No it doesn't.

He would have to be convicted and removed in the Senate, then there would be a second vote to ban him from ever holding office again.

[Squidly]

24. im just going by what the experts were saying

to Don Lemon this morning. they said if he was impeached for a second time that it would disqualify him. ive also heard others say the same throughout the course of the day

[lindysalsagal]

3. and THIS is why we want Speaker Pelosi in the BIG CHAIR.

[roamer65]

5. Pence just may do it.

Dump used him pretty bad. Put him in harms way.

[madaboutharry]

7. And his wife and daughter.

Heard several times this morning: "Pence is very angry."

Don't get me wrong. I have no empathy for Pence. He has spent 4 years behaving like a jerk. But today is a new day and I will give Pence this day to act like a decent human being.

[cwydro]

13. Pence is useless.

And lacking a spine.

[Midnight Writer]

25. Pence is refusing to accept phone calls from both Pelosi and Schumer. He is worthless.

Start the impeachment.

If these are not sufficient grounds, then nothing is.

[roamer65]

27. I agree.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

6. I read the thread title to my spouse. His response: "Why not both?"

[Wounded Bear]

17. So much this...nt

[fearnobush]

9. Pence would still need at least 2 sin cabinet members

Chow is gone, Manuchin and Pompao - good luck

[Retrograde]

14. He could try to wake up Ben Carson

Is Wilbur Ross still alive - haven't heard anything out of him for ages? There's Eugene Scalia in Labor - he's young enough he may want a future career. Azar - maybe. Betsy de Vos still has two weeks of grifting to do so she's busy

[StarfishSaver]

16. I wonder what Pence was thinking as he was hunkered down in a secure, undisclosed location

in the Capitol and then having to call out the National Guard himself in order to protect himself and Congress from the mob Trump sent over there.

Think that helped him come out of his Trump fog?

[crickets]

19. One can only hope.

It's a wonder that more Repubs haven't come out of their trump fog after being evacuated or hunkered in secure locations for hours. One of yesterday's most chilling images is the picture of a rioter vaulting a brass railing in the Capitol with a fistful of zip ties in his hand. At least one of those goons was looking for hostages.

Is there really any going back to 'business as usual' after what happened, and even worse, what could have happened?

[StarfishSaver]

22. IKR?

They were very likely planning to just what the Michigan terrorists planned to do to Gov. Whitmer - arrest and "try" Senators and Members of Congress and God knows what afterward.

[UnderThisLaw]

18. Gonna be a lot of right wing crazies

going ballistic about a woman giving an ultimatum to a straight white Christofascist like Pence

[NotASurfer]

23. I've seen the three sensible steps that should be taken next posted this morning

1 - 25th
2 - Impeachment
3 - Indictments

Ideally. Depends on whether having a hit put on him by Trump will outweigh Pence's lack of a spine.

Regardless how 1 and 2 play out - and I hope the Speaker proceeds with 2 regardless, both because Trump deserves the historical infamy, and because he will focus his rage on the Impeachment instead of burning the country to the ground on his way out - I am on board with 3. There can be no real healing without accountability

[triron]

26. Impeach the motherfucker!

Let the pukes fuck themselves again.