Nadler supports skipping impeachment hearing at the Cte. and going straight to a floor vote now

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

[soothsayer]

1. Do it!

[iluvtennis]

43. +1,000,000. nt

[Botany]

59. No need for hearings ... take a vote and then let the GOP senators stand up for that traitor publicly

... one more time.

BTW The attacks on the capitol would probably not have happened if the GOP members of the
house hadn't wanted their useless protest votes about the election.

[BunnyMcGee]

71. The evidence is available to every member of Congress and their staff

and witnessed by Democratic and Republican members IRL.

Based on that, vote Yea or Nay!

[Botany]

75. They have audio of Trump's mobbed up phone call to Georgia's Sec. of State and the video ...

.... of Trump sending the Pro Trump mob down PA to attack the US Capitol. This will not be like
the 1st impeachment where McConnell and the GOP senators did not allow any evidence or witnesses
to come forward because they knew they would have to vote to convict Trump but this time they
can't hid "it." Trump told the mob to go and attack the US Capitol and then told them that he
"loved them."

[BunnyMcGee]

76. Exactly. Let them SOB's try to deny

[onetexan]

82. Bingo!! Dems can take the upper hand and root out these seditious GOP. This is what 2nd impeachment

can achieve!!

[StarfishSaver]

93. No need for hearings and they're not planning hearings. This is going straight to the floor

But that takes a few days.

[Evolve Dammit]

69. My first thought as well.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

83. adding full image of statement for other old eyes ...

[StarfishSaver]

87. That's exactly what they're doing

They're preparing for a House vote next week without going through committee, as Nadler recommended. But even going directly to the floor takes a few days. They can't do that in a day.

[WA-03 Democrat]

2. YES

Great move with force and urgency Jerry!

[MontanaMama]

3. It has to be done NOW.

McConnell probably won’t allow a vote in the senate and there’s not anything we can do about that, unfortunately.

[essme]

12. He might; his wife already quit

and he is going to spend the rest of his career sitting at a bar with Lindsey, nursing a light white wine spritzer, reminiscing about "when things were great, and we were young."

[MontanaMama]

14. He won't.

Mrs. Moscow Mitch only bugged out because she doesn’t want to be on the hook for having to 25th amendment MF45.

[onecaliberal]

103. The rats jumping ship lack the intestinal fortitude to 25th amendment MF45.

[Wounded Bear]

15. I refuse to believe that McConnell was ever young...

[essme]

24. Well, he was. And he was cute- here's a home movie that shows a young Mitch McConnell

[Amaryllis]

50. OMG that is funny!

[mdbl]

53. ROFL

[Celerity]

98. ...

[Wounded Bear]

99. Fake news...

Those photos were faked and posted years ago, just like the Obama birth certificate.

[bdamomma]

25. Yea Lindsay

looked tipsy last night rather disheveled too.

[Woodycall]

42. But a president...

...currently under impeachment by the House of Representatives loses his/her power to pardon until the matter is resolved in the Senate...

[HariSeldon]

57. That is a very broad reading of the text

I believe the standard reading of the section of the Constitution on presidential pardon power is that the president may not pardon impeachments, not that he/she loses the power to pardon because of impeachment. However, a pending or ongoing impeachment trial before the Senate might just convince Trump to fly straight for two weeks.

[dflprincess]

66. Having just lost the majority

he might have hopes that he can get it back in 2 years. Given popular opinion, he may listen to the public now. (And there are Republicans calling for Trump to be removed.)

[dalton99a]

4. Extraordinary circumstances demand extraordinary measures

And we already know who we are dealing with

[Blue Owl]

10. My thoughts exactly

[malaise]

5. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

Do it!

[Irish_Dem]

6. Has to be done asap. nt

[C_U_L8R]

7. Do it. By morning.

[StarfishSaver]

88. They can't do it by morning. Not even Nadler is saying that. Because he knows better

He says this needs to bypass the committee and go straight to the floor. That's what they're doing. But it takes a couple of days to get a bill on the floor and there's no way to do it any faster.

[C_U_L8R]

92. I'm cheering them on

Its so necessary

[livetohike]

8. It's necessary. Needs to be done ASAP. Preferably

tonight.

[dchill]

9. Prima facie!

[Mme. Defarge]

11. Ce soir

si possible. JUST DO IT.

[Blue Owl]

13. I wanna see tRump's fucking head rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue

[grumpyduck]

17. Won't go anywhere, except

that he'll always be known as the only POTUS to be impeached twice.

[bdamomma]

18. have you

good DU'ers called your Reps about impeaching and claiming the 25th Amendment for POS tRump?


Also they say you can't indict a sitting pResident but can you ARREST one?????

[Raven123]

19. Yep. Everyone voting is a witness. Nothing to discuss.

[luv2fly]

20. Honest question, if he's impeached how does that help?

I heard Thom Hartmann talking about the timing of impeachment and when it is actually considered done. Depending on the timing, I think he said something about Trump's inability to then pardon anyone. Does that make sense? Are there other ramifications of being impeached other than the fact that he won't like it?

[EndlessWire]

28. Well, he can never run for any office again. n/t

[luv2fly]

31. Is that the two impeachment rule?

Or can he already not run for office since he's been impeached once?

[summer_in_TX]

74. Anytime articles of impeachment are filed

apparently there's an option to add to it that he cannot run for office again.

I imagine it only takes effect if the Senate convicts and removes him.

[StarfishSaver]

89. Not exactly

The articles of impeachment don't reference that. If the Senate convicts and removes him, they can then take a vote to permanently bar him from future office.

[scarletwoman]

46. That would only apply if the Senate also convicts him. Just impeachment alone won't do that.

[EndlessWire]

55. I know. n/t

[quakerboy]

29. 3-4 things

1- if it could be done rapidly.. it stops the pardons.
2- same if- it removes him from the nuclear codes.
3- If done correctly it makes him ineligible to run again, if he somehow survives the next few years.

And less directly.. he becomes the one that was impeached and removed. That goes in the history books, and it also stains those who have willingly associated themselves with him. And that ain't nothing. I'd argue it also makes the illegitimacy of his occupancy of the whitehouse official. Maybe adds a little leverage in undoing some of the crap he has done to try and wreck the country.

[luv2fly]

32. Thank you

I had heard about the pardon issue, but wasn't aware of the rest.

[yaesu]

47. I think the pardon thing only applies to pardons connected to impeachment so he could still use that

power plus he would still do it regardless while the courts fight over it for years

[Traildogbob]

58. He loses his gubment pension

He and Melanoma gets not a dime more from tax payers.

[Lucky Luciano]

91. What about SS protection?

[Traildogbob]

94. Well

I guess we have to allow that. But isn’t that amount based on your life long contributions. He took no salary these last 4 years🤔. And how much has Melonoma contributed. Has not worked in decades.
I could deal with them on SS and shopping at Walmart for canned food. We liberals are good with helping the poor.

[reACTIONary]

64. If convicted, and IF it is explicitly stated, he...

... can not run again. Its an additional penalty that can be added to removal from office but is not automatic.

[jcgoldie]

77. I think the biggest benefit politically...

Is not really about Trump. Its that win or lose you get every GOP senator including all those up in '22 on record voting whether the president inciting a riot is okey dokey or well not so much...

[Renew Deal]

21. So how soon will impeachment be filed?

[Pantagruel]

22. Gerry rocks !

Didn't know that option was possible, thought it was a long drawn out process.

[myohmy2]

23. YES!

...and quickly before something horribly irreversible happens...

...time to stop worrying about the feelings of rioters, traitors and insurrectionists...

...it's Congress' Constitutional responsibility and duty to save and defend the Republic at all cost...

...trump is an imminent and present danger to us and our Republic...

...trump's been planning this coup for months if not years, and now it's here...

...remove him and do it quickly...

[bdamomma]

27. Yes

get it done now, before he does something more horrible, he thrives on chaos.

Get him out, he's unfit.

[HUAJIAO]

54. The House can impeach him. I'm all for it.

But the Senate is not going to remove him.

[quakerboy]

26. When are warnock and ossoff sworn in?

[Canoe52]

36. Would still need Kamala in office for the tie breaker.

[quakerboy]

78. Maybe

I hear pence isnt a huge rump fan right now...

[Canoe52]

79. That's an interesting concept...

[quakerboy]

80. Mostly wishful thinking

But from what I see, not completely out of the real of possiblity

[whopis01]

101. Can't be a tiebreaker in this case

It requires 67 votes.

[Geechie]

67. It depends.. here's more info

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/when-will-warnock-ossoff-be-sworn-in/85-a6075050-fa52-4479-82f0-680ce153d37f

(Kinda long article, but they explain a couple of paragraphs into it. The good news is Ossoff is far enough ahead that Perdue can't possible catch up to him.)

[CottonBear]

106. Perdue conceded today. NT

[spanone]

30. It's fresh off the presses!!! Hot to trot. Go for it. While we're still reeling from it.

[triron]

33. Yes don't wait.

[Denvermosaic]

34. Yeah, go for it. Impeach that MF now.

[Canoe52]

35. KnR!

[pbmus]

37. only took 4 years toooooooooo long....

[orangecrush]

38. Support

[BainsBane]

39. Anyone know if McConnell will put conviction up for a vote

in the Senate? Or will it be like last time?

[yaesu]

49. imho, the chances of enough senate repukes voting for it is about as likely as tRump quitting and

becoming a nun.

[MoonlitKnight]

60. There was a vote last time.

A vote is required. He did block allowing witnesses.

[ffr]

40. How quickly can we act. That's the question.

12 more days after today of this nightmare. I'm more worried now than I've ever been.

[George II]

41. Let's work over the weekend, get the Articles of Impeachment of Lieu/Cicillini/Raskin passed....

....and send them to the Senate by Monday morning.

[judesedit]

44. It has to happen for the sake of mankind

[ananda]

45. Now meaning tonight?

Or tomorrow?

[bucolic_frolic]

48. Do this now, before he does something else, before he escapes into retirement to regroup for 2024

[Takket]

51. there is no need for a committee hearing

there is no timetable the House has to follow to impeach. the crime is clear and the Constitution allows removal to be virtually instantaneous if necessary.

[AirmensMom]

52. Seriously, get the lead out!

A whole day has passed. This is not fast enough!

[Midnight Writer]

56. Absolutely. We can't afford to just "run out the clock" on a POTUS who is a clear and present danger

[ancianita]

61. I'm with Nadler all the way. He knows a lot more than he's telling. But I trust his judgment.

[MoonlitKnight]

62. Just to clarify a few things...

The House can vote by simple majority to impeach.
The Senate must have a hearing and vote. No delays.
In order to convict the Senate must do so by two thirds which is currently 66 votes, not 67.
The pardon clause means that a pardon does not exempt one from being impeached and convicted.

[Brother Buzz]

63. I would be happy if Speaker Nancy Pelosi brought it to the floor for a vote on Monday

All the congress critters would have to entire weekend to digest the articles of impeachment.

[AlexSFCA]

65. do it quick and responsibility will forever rest on the turtle

[badboy67]

68. Impeach - Convict - Remove. NOW

The country cannot allow Trump's extreme malfeasance to remain unpunished any longer.

A price must be paid.

And it must be paid NOW.

[calimary]

70. Yep. We don't have much more time.

Get it done!!!

[SunSeeker]

72. Hallelujah! nt

[Fla Dem]

73. Unfortunately they just have tomorrow.

Then the House is in recess all next week; will return on Monday 1/18/2021.

[moonscape]

84. And haven't Senators gone home? I'm

in favor of impeachment on principle, for history, but unclear how it would have any short-term effect.

[StarfishSaver]

90. Pelosi will call them back to vote on impeachment

The adjournment is subject to the call of the chair, meaning she can make them come back to vote, if necessary.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

81. Hell yes! There's no time to waste with this wannabe dictator and his terrorist minions!

[smirkymonkey]

85. Get him OUT!

[PatrickforO]

86. Yeah, I don't think they need to waste time with hearings.

They will force a vote during the next few days at some point, and mark Trump forever as the huge LOSER he truly is - the ONLY president to be impeached twice.

[Toorich]

95. ...Hold on everybody...

.... Let's not forget the "Code of the West."...

We have to give him a fair trial.... and then hang him!!

[LudwigPastorius]

96. Yes, do it, Madame Speaker.

You know better than anyone how crazy Trump is.

Time is of the essence. We need to get the impeachment articles to the Senate while the images of Trump's filthy putsch attempt are still fresh in the public's mind.

That's the only way to possible get enough pressure on GOP senators to get enough votes to remove him.

[BobTheSubgenius]

97. Even as just symbolism, this idea has a lot going for it.

Making the GOP stand up and be counted is one of the best parts. Tippy-top.

[Nitram]

100. Go for it!

Otherwise it will take too much time to finish within the time left. At least we'll have every NO vote on record.

[BigBearJohn]

102. Strike while the iron's hot 🔥

[RobertDevereaux]

104. I'm with Jerry. DO IT NOW!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

105. Yes! Yes! Yes! Time is of the essence.