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Washington Post article
Dozens arrested after mob storms Capitol; officials vow that more will be charged
Third paragraph down:
One person arrested was charged with possessing a military style automatic weapon and 11 molotov cocktails, prosecutors said. Another defendant was charged with assaulting a police officer with a hockey stick. Yet another, who needed a Russian interpreter, told a judge, I dont know what unlawful entry you are referring to. (my boldface)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-siege-arrests/2021/01/07/661292a2-5105-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
Renew Deal
(85,169 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)And I expect that erik prince had a hand in this along with flynn and other players in the last election fraud. You know, all those assholes who just got pardoned and their friends.
safeinOhio
(37,651 posts)As Hillary said, "All roads lead to Putin".
2naSalit
(102,804 posts)Who said that but you could have heard that from HRC as well, they're both hip to the stench on this shit.
ShazzieB
(22,593 posts)All roads lead to Putin: Pelosi questions Trumps loyalty in White House clash
By Mike DeBonis and Seung Min Kim
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-recalls-clash-with-trump-says-she-was-probably-telling-him-that-all-roads-lead-to-putin/2019/10/17/fdbde8d2-f0f2-11e9-8693-f487e46784aa_story.html
It definitely sounds like something Hillary could have said, through.
they had a hand in it, even Penguin Roger Stone was pardoned.
Flynn he was calling for marital law, to him it was no big deal. Where the hell is he????
BusyBeingBest
(9,173 posts)thumb drives, papers, files, etc. and then sneaking back out through the chaos while America's Dumbfuck Bubba Squad took selfies in Nancy's chair.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)I'm willing to bet Russians have access to a backdoor.
It could be Trump loyalists accessing the laptops. It could be like the Nixon break in on steroids.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)onetexan
(13,913 posts)are foreign operatives, and the sensitive documents they stole from the Congressional offices
Zoonart
(14,466 posts)He said you were dreaming if you did not think Russians were in that mob. Russian trolls have been lighting up these traitor forums for years.
He has said it over and over again. Trump is a Russian asset.
judesedit
(4,592 posts)They're a bunch of traitors that should go in front of Dumpy's firing squad. Him last, so he can watch his demise coming. That sounds horrible, I know. And I am an old peace, love, dove, dope hippie. Not that I do anything, but smoke and have a couple beers now and then...now. But never in my wildest dreams would I have thought I'd ever hear myself saying this stuff. My ex used to call me "Save the world, Welsh" lol. That should tell you I've always been a bleeding heart. Always for the underdog. Not since the Hump. He brings out the evil in everyone. So can't wait til he's gone. And I mean gone.
Zoonart
(14,466 posts)and lots of thoughts have been expressing make me a VERY bad Buddhist. LOL.
housecat
(3,138 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)But in this case, I would be okay with that POS being hung for treason.
Zoonart
(14,466 posts)I have always held the belief that capitol punishment does not belong in a Democracy. The state should not have the right to execute a citizen.
However, this may be a war, and there are different rules for treason.
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)Blindfolds and cigarettes at dawn in the Rose Garden.
2naSalit
(102,804 posts)But certainly wouldn't want his fetid blood soiling the ground permanently at our house. Let it bet someplace trashy, like him.
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)No statue necessary, but a plaque would be nice.
2naSalit
(102,804 posts)Has left a nasty mark on the nation such that plaques are not warranted. He deserves no recognition for anything but his crimes. Proper articulation of the history of this time should be sufficient. But I understand your sentiment.
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)That being said, a burial in the desert, followed by running a few thousand horses over the grave, seems like a good idea.
2naSalit
(102,804 posts)A latrine placed above it for public health and safety purposes, but yeah, some unpleasant location to remind us is a good idea. I mean, aesthetics and all.
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)I like the Doral idea! It's a pretty shitty place already* and could turn out to be his presidential library too! But only allow for expanded plumbing capacity and no other touch-ups/maintenance so as to provide the essence of continued neglect into perpetuity.
*A friend of mine played golf there last year, was invited by a friend of his, and told me it was a miserable place to golf being directly under the flight path for the airport next door.
brewens
(15,359 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,868 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,539 posts)CottonBear
(21,615 posts)It was the perfect shit storm opportunity to gain access to digital devices, paperwork and confidential information.
safeinOhio
(37,651 posts)In the background running the show.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)on MSNBC said that if you think that Russia wouldn't have tried to sneak more than a few spies into the crowds to get into the capitol buildings... you are naive.
Harker
(17,786 posts)Time for a sweeping reset.
DFW
(60,189 posts)Transported by diplomatic pouch. I'd say the chances of recovery are zero.
Any idea which Senator?
MissB
(16,344 posts)Harker
(17,786 posts)klook
(13,600 posts)thanks to electronic tracking, and that due to password protection & encryption he felt it hadnt been compromised. Hope thats correct.
me too. Russia has to pay, first their Russian asset must leave, so is tRump not resigning, Pence then could pardon him, but he would or would not be held for his federal crimes is that correct????
He is a danger, he should not be out and about, where's Guiliani in all of this????
58Sunliner
(6,331 posts)C_U_L8R
(49,386 posts)The CIA and NSA should be all over this. We hope.
Wicked Blue
(8,868 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)sop
(18,626 posts)now he let them ransack Congress. Some may call this treason, Trump calls it debt forgiveness.
ret5hd
(22,502 posts)DFW
(60,189 posts)Then the whole building needs to be swept for bugs and computer hacks. the argument that they were all "patriots" goes out the window unless the interpretation of "Patriot" includes people loyal to the Kremlin.
Wicked Blue
(8,868 posts)Where there is one cockroach, there are many more
LaMouffette
(2,640 posts)dalton99a
(94,140 posts)lonely bird
(2,943 posts)I have no doubt that Russia was involved. That needs to be investigated. At the same time there was a shitload of good ol Murican assholes involved in this.
Investigate both. And while we are at it, time to purge the police and military of anti-government and racist thugs.
CrispyQ
(40,970 posts)Investigate both. And while we are at it, time to purge the police and military of anti-government and racist thugs.
And new, stricter vetting procedures for incoming military & law enforcement officers.
JT45242
(4,043 posts)EVERY Laptop, Every server. Every smart phone.
Will be need to be swept for malware. Wiped clean. And reinstalled.
538 offices just of voting folks...with aides, support staff, etc. Not including security computers, cameras. Probbaly over 10,000 individual IT devices that should not be used until ALL of them are cleaned.
This will have crazy ramifications... just imagine what could be hacked out of Senate Intel, Armed Services committe members computers.
I shudder at the cost of this work in manpower and dollars.
The risk cannot be underestimated.
yaesu
(9,328 posts)difficult to see & detect in this day & age, especially if they are passive devices.
Botany
(77,324 posts)Why is Trump still in office? He is a Russian agent.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Why is trump not facing a firing squad?
dustyscamp
(2,706 posts)Hugin
(37,848 posts)If it turns out to be the case. Well, there may be more than sanctions.
tinrobot
(12,062 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)3825-87867
(1,939 posts)Wonder if he will fall off a 5 story building in the next few days or weeks? Or at least fall off a one story balcony or prison top bunk 5 or 6 times if necessary?
Of course, we can't rule out "food poisoning."
Can you say "Epstein?"
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,399 posts)
American Welshman
(32 posts)Sad.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)lostnfound
(17,520 posts)From Oregon.
Ill put a link in a minute.
LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)MissB
(16,344 posts)LeftInTX
(34,302 posts)Thx!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,782 posts)More likely to be very average American-looking type and maybe even 100% bubba type. Any of those participants could have been compromised for money.
The Russian influence we should worry most about is their non-stop intrusion into social media where they've been known to instigate violence in American cities by posing as American patriots on Facebook or Twitter. They also influence people with videos on YouTube.
Why would they risk getting arrested in America when they can do most of their dirty work on MAGAts using a keyboard in Moscow?
KY
bluedigger
(17,437 posts)And blackmail is their favorite form of leverage. They'd be crazy to miss the opportunity.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,782 posts)With cops, politicians, business executives and entertainers being highly vulnerable.
Loan sharking is probably pretty lucrative right now as well.
Wicked Blue
(8,868 posts)meadowlander
(5,133 posts)"Vladimir and Lidiya Guryev (Richard and Cynthia Murphy)
Professor Nina Khrushcheva, who served as Vladimir's faculty adviser at The New School for three years starting in 2002, said in July 2010 that she found it difficult to figure out the purported Philadelphia native: "I was always puzzled by the inconsistency between a completely American name and completely Russian behaviour. [...] He had a thick Russian accent and an incredibly unhappy Russian personality.""
"Mikhail Kutsik and Nataliya Pereverzeva (Michael Zottoli and Patricia Mills)
He claimed to be American but had a thick accent and she claimed to be Canadian but neighbors said she sounded Yugoslavian."
I don't think the GRU's language program is as polished as we assume it is.
Also you can "speak English" to the extent that you can order a pizza and tell the taxi where to go but maybe not want to defend yourself from treason and sedition charges in your second language.
DeSmet
(257 posts)but what they planted while there. Sweep the computers and offices for spyware.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)Need to to a thorough scan for bugs. You have to assume the worst.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)Chainfire
(17,757 posts)I would like to see him living broke and friendless, standing on a street corner, in rags, ranting about "fraud" while people cross the street to avoid him. That would also have the benefit of allowing us to retain our moral standards. Trump is an old man. Like most old men, he has probably come to acceptance that his mortality is a fact, rather than theory. Were he shot at dawn, he would forever be a cult hero. Being inconsequential and ignored would be much more painful and lasting than a bullet.
I don't want him see him dead. I want to see him punished.