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Nevilledog

(55,075 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:52 PM Jan 2021

PELOSI: "This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley...



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THIS - PELOSI: “This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike. “
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PELOSI: "This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley... (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
Wow! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2021 #1
Can we finally stop wryter2000 Jan 2021 #2
+1,000,000 Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #8
I really wish I could Rec. your post, dware Jan 2021 #14
Agreed dware DENVERPOPS Jan 2021 #63
Agreed 100% TwilightZone Jan 2021 #20
She's good. But any Democrat, young or old in charge would do just that. Autumn Jan 2021 #21
Credit Is Due Where Credit Is Due Me. Jan 2021 #25
I think all our Democrats are superb at their jobs, with the exception of a couple Autumn Jan 2021 #26
Yes THey Are Me. Jan 2021 #27
Makes one just want to shake one's head.... George II Jan 2021 #50
Quite Me. Jan 2021 #75
Yet another backhanded insult directed at Nancy Pelosi. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #42
Did you miss "she's good"? Any Democrat in charge would do the same thing. Autumn Jan 2021 #51
I'm smarter than I look, Autumn. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #59
I don't have a clue how you look Jackie, I've never seen you. Autumn Jan 2021 #66
"Any Democrat in charge would do the same thing" blue-wave Jan 2021 #67
Well, that's a very generous interpretation. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #70
I agree blue-wave Jan 2021 #74
Thank you! NurseJackie Jan 2021 #82
Yep. There was just no reason to say it except to try Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #101
Looks...Meh... Me. Jan 2021 #83
I adore you! NurseJackie Jan 2021 #94
of course they would.. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #43
Perhaps. But remember Nancy Pelosi IS in charge. There's a reason for that. George II Jan 2021 #46
I'm not senile George. nt Autumn Jan 2021 #52
Sure it's the right move, but would all have announced it? elias7 Jan 2021 #55
Some are complaining that she did announce it. I think her announcing it was the right move. nt Autumn Jan 2021 #57
Pelosi holds the line to stop and insurrection, murielm99 Jan 2021 #64
I post here because I'm a Democrat and I support Dems. All of them. The Senate and Autumn Jan 2021 #72
I stand by what I said. murielm99 Jan 2021 #78
I also stand by what I said. nt Autumn Jan 2021 #96
"All of them."...... George II Jan 2021 #92
Well George, as I said there are a couple that I think could be better at their jobs. Autumn Jan 2021 #97
.... George II Jan 2021 #98
She has been the adult running the country for the past 4 years Bev54 Jan 2021 #71
I have celebrated her. That doesn't mean that I can't celebrate the other Democrats that I Autumn Jan 2021 #79
That sounds just like all lives matter to me Bev54 Jan 2021 #81
You think? Autumn Jan 2021 #100
Might be true, but Pelosi has years of credibility and experience. That counts. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #80
I was very happy to see the military voting for Biden this time after going for Trump and Autumn Jan 2021 #99
AGREED!! 10000+ Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #34
+1 K&R onetexan Jan 2021 #39
This post is not necessary, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #41
Totally agree! DownriverDem Jan 2021 #58
Yes!! ailsagirl Jan 2021 #77
Any future speaker will probably keep her on as a consultant. Captain Zero Jan 2021 #88
Right.. We're Lucky to have Nancy Cha Jan 2021 #93
Agreed! Twitter gutter balls are not a substitute for solid, R B Garr Jan 2021 #95
I'm glad she's thinking about this and taking measures. thucythucy Jan 2021 #3
Agreed. Necessary move but that's why it's terrifying. yonder Jan 2021 #68
Yeah, they did it for Nixon...def need it for Trump...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #4
Thank you, Nancy. wendyb-NC Jan 2021 #5
THANK YOU, NANCY!! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #6
Is Milley one involved in NG NON RESPONSE? SheltieLover Jan 2021 #7
No Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #10
Ty! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #16
NO, dware Jan 2021 #17
No. It would have been tRump's toady acting SecDef who would have blocked the NG. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #60
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #9
And? Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #11
The codes just allow him to issue the order. Tommymac Jan 2021 #35
A lot of Dominionist Christians in the Air Force officer corps Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #91
These last few months were a good time yonder Jan 2021 #73
I wonder if she can share his reply, if any? KewlKat Jan 2021 #12
Pelosi sure knows how to trigger traitor trump. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #13
Ty, Nancy! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #15
Read Between The Lines: Trump's Already Been Sidelined, 25th or Not Skraxx Jan 2021 #18
In other words, we won't be doing a first strike. roamer65 Jan 2021 #19
WashPost - MORE INFO Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #22
Well done Madam Speaker padah513 Jan 2021 #23
Well that about wrecks his plan nykym Jan 2021 #24
Apparently Madame Speaker orangecrush Jan 2021 #28
She may just have saved the planet from this monster. Denvermosaic Jan 2021 #29
JHC! Is this what they call guardrails for T----? ffr Jan 2021 #30
Love the transparency, this subject is on everyone's mind bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #31
This is very good news. Pelosi has the moves. PatrickforO Jan 2021 #32
Thank God bdamomma Jan 2021 #33
Jesus I thought they changed that code housecat Jan 2021 #36
Thank God for this mighty woman Hekate Jan 2021 #37
Madame Speaker is a badass. I am thankful she is there w her years of experience Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #40
"We do not take an oath to a king or queen, C Moon Jan 2021 #84
This nation is so fortunate to have such a strong, competent, patriotic Speaker of the House. patphil Jan 2021 #44
I wonder what dump's reaction to this will be? Ligyron Jan 2021 #45
"THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING!!!" /s CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #47
I hope the protocols for the nuclear football are changed... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #48
---and what did she learn? 3Hotdogs Jan 2021 #49
I am sure he is thinking.. VladmireTrumpkins Jan 2021 #53
Pelosi is a boss malaise Jan 2021 #54
Discussing Trump dropping a nuclear bomb Roc2020 Jan 2021 #56
Wing Attack Plan R. Orrex Jan 2021 #61
Thank God someone's running this country nuxvomica Jan 2021 #62
What are the precautions? Because if it's the military making decisions over civilian leadership, WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #65
Nevilledog... Upthevibe Jan 2021 #69
Lawyers monitor every step of the way... Jon King Jan 2021 #76
Source? Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #90
Smart treestar Jan 2021 #85
Has Gen. Milley been fired yet? niyad Jan 2021 #86
Nancy Pelosi is one of my heroes of American politics. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #87
Her act of loudly tearing his bullshit speech in half was briliant and part of history. Arne Jan 2021 #89

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
2. Can we finally stop
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

Declaring that she needs to be replaced to make room for new, more liberal blood? No one is better than Nancy Pelosi in this position.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
63. Agreed dware
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jan 2021

Even before this incident, I would hope that all the top brass of the military,had already gotten together and instituted some plan to prevent lardass and ReTrumpliCONs from doing anything rash.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
25. Credit Is Due Where Credit Is Due
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

She is superb at her job and thank goodness we have her in that position

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
26. I think all our Democrats are superb at their jobs, with the exception of a couple
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jan 2021

and I thank our lucky stars and the voters we have them.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Yes THey Are
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jan 2021

And they put her in that position because she is so spectacular. There are only a few sour grapers that won't admit it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. Yet another backhanded insult directed at Nancy Pelosi.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jan 2021

The underlying message, of course, is based on the false premise that Nancy isn't all that special and that "anybody else would be just as good as Nancy". (And we all know that's not true.)

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
51. Did you miss "she's good"? Any Democrat in charge would do the same thing.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jan 2021

Except for maybe a couple of them Everything but adoration is a backhanded insult to some people Jackie.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
59. I'm smarter than I look, Autumn.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jan 2021
Everything but adoration is a backhanded insult to some people Jackie.
I'm smarter than I look, Autumn.

blue-wave

(5,067 posts)
67. "Any Democrat in charge would do the same thing"
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jan 2021

I think she's trying to say all democrats would do the right thing. Not those who run as democrats in elections only to refuse to become democrats.....ever. Gosh golly, who would ever do that?

The way I see it, she's defeated her own backhanded insult.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
70. Well, that's a very generous interpretation.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jan 2021

But it's clear to me that the message is one that marginalizes with the undertone of "she only did what anyone else would do, so why make such a big deal about it?" As if it was as rote and as routine as remembering to turn off the lights and lock the door when one leaves the house.

I know what I'm talking about. My memory is still good. These gray hairs and wrinkles of mine indicate wisdom, not dementia.

elias7

(4,229 posts)
55. Sure it's the right move, but would all have announced it?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

Or restrained if it shouldn’t be announced?

Pelosi is masterful at her job because she knows more than what is just the right thing to do, but also how to play it, which is not such a simple thing.

I’ve been reading a few reviews just now about the Queen’s gambit, so pardon the analogy, but though good players know opening theory, it is the great players who define it (and get the move named after them). In watching her function over the past few years, I don’t think too many leaders are in her league.

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
57. Some are complaining that she did announce it. I think her announcing it was the right move. nt
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jan 2021

murielm99

(32,978 posts)
64. Pelosi holds the line to stop and insurrection,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

and you damn her with faint praise.

Why do you post on a Democratic board?

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
72. I post here because I'm a Democrat and I support Dems. All of them. The Senate and
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jan 2021

The House Dems. Sorry my praise for Democrats isn't good enough for you.

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
97. Well George, as I said there are a couple that I think could be better at their jobs.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jan 2021
I think all our Democrats are superb at their jobs, with the exception of a couple
That's exactly what I said, no one is perfect. Even if a couple come close. But I certainly don't trash them. Here, Twitter or anywhere else.



Bev54

(13,429 posts)
71. She has been the adult running the country for the past 4 years
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jan 2021

she really should be in the oval office, she has been doing both jobs on a domestic front. She is one of the strongest people you have in your government. Celebrate her!!!

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
79. I have celebrated her. That doesn't mean that I can't celebrate the other Democrats that I
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jan 2021

think have done a fabulous job and give them credit for their part in holding the line against Trump.

58Sunliner

(6,322 posts)
80. Might be true, but Pelosi has years of credibility and experience. That counts.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jan 2021

Especially with the military.

Autumn

(48,954 posts)
99. I was very happy to see the military voting for Biden this time after going for Trump and
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jan 2021

3rd party in 2016. It seems you are right, they are learning that experience counts.




https://www.statista.com/chart/22761/us-military-voting-intention-in-the-november-election/

gab13by13

(32,277 posts)
41. This post is not necessary,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

thank god our caucus allows for vigorous debate. Speaker Pelosi was just reelected with overwhelming support, once that happened everyone got behind her.

DownriverDem

(7,013 posts)
58. Totally agree!
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jan 2021

We continue to need her experience and those who disagree do not understand how it all works. Just wait. You have to pay your dues and gain experience before I will support anyone new.

R B Garr

(17,983 posts)
95. Agreed! Twitter gutter balls are not a substitute for solid,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:17 PM
Jan 2021

real-life, proven experience. Hopefully the childish Twitter trash will tone down after President Crazypants leaves.

thucythucy

(9,097 posts)
3. I'm glad she's thinking about this and taking measures.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

I'm also terrified that this is seen as an actual possibility.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,739 posts)
11. And?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jan 2021

As long as he has the codes, he is a risk. Are they taking the codes away? Under what authority/statute? Kind of important details. Also, he has access to massive amounts of classified intel, as do Jared and Ivanka. Who is securing that?

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
35. The codes just allow him to issue the order.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jan 2021

If no one in the chain of command implements it there is no issue.

Grant that the possibility of a traitorous General in combination with a complicit Missile Officer could still try to launch is non-zero, but this allays some of my fears.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,739 posts)
91. A lot of Dominionist Christians in the Air Force officer corps
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jan 2021

The Air Force Academy was specifically targeted, but their are "programs" for Annapolis and West Point. VMI was also a very fruitful breeding ground for religious fascists.

yonder

(10,290 posts)
73. These last few months were a good time
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jan 2021

to slip in bogus intelligence "markers" to see how and where they might end up.

Whether the IC did or not would be anyone's guess.

Skraxx

(3,178 posts)
18. Read Between The Lines: Trump's Already Been Sidelined, 25th or Not
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jan 2021

The military will not listen to him. She can't come right out an say that of course, because technically Trump is still the CoC, but Milley will ignore Trump. That's the subtext. Thank goodness.

Wicked Blue

(8,858 posts)
22. WashPost - MORE INFO
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

John Wagner
Washington Post
Jan. 8, 2021 at 11:59 a.m. EST

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told colleagues in a letter Friday that she had spoken to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, about keeping an “unstable president” from accessing nuclear codes.

Her letter came shortly after Trump tweeted that he would not attend the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden on Jan. 20, breaking with a long-standing tradition of outgoing presidents attending the swearing-in ceremony of their successors.

Democrats are increasingly eyeing a second impeachment of Trump in the wake of Wednesday’s violent takeover of the Capitol by pro-Trump rioters if Vice President Pence and Trump’s Cabinet officials do not remove him from office under the 25th Amendment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/08/capitol-biden-trump-live-updates/

nykym

(3,063 posts)
24. Well that about wrecks his plan
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

to fly to Scotland and call in a nuke strike on the capitol, then a round of golf.

orangecrush

(30,206 posts)
28. Apparently Madame Speaker
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021


Realizes that every second this lunatic remains in power is fraught with extreme danger.

ffr

(23,393 posts)
30. JHC! Is this what they call guardrails for T----?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

I'm in fear of the next cellphone alert that may be coming.

25th this guy today. Republican cowards!

PatrickforO

(15,423 posts)
32. This is very good news. Pelosi has the moves.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

She's boxing him in so he can't do further damage.

I have to say at this point, I am glad Pelosi is Speaker right now. She has the guts, but she also has the experience. Because we are in uncharted waters here with this treasonous coup attempt.

Vivienne235729

(3,748 posts)
38. Madame Speaker is a badass. I am thankful she is there w her years of experience
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

in these volatile, trying times.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

C Moon

(13,631 posts)
84. "We do not take an oath to a king or queen,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jan 2021

a tyrant or dictator. We do not take a oath to an individual; No, we do not take an oath to a country, a tribe or a religion. We take an oath to the constitution."

patphil

(9,056 posts)
44. This nation is so fortunate to have such a strong, competent, patriotic Speaker of the House.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jan 2021

History will honor her as one of the very best in our nation's history.
Bravo Nancy Pelosi!

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
45. I wonder what dump's reaction to this will be?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jan 2021

I mean, who couldn't guess how he'd take it?

She sure does know how to get under his sickly orange skin so she must not be afraid of the consequences. Maybe they're using chemical restraints now 'cause he sure didn't seem his normal, disgusting self in that hostage video they put up.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
48. I hope the protocols for the nuclear football are changed...
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:01 PM
Jan 2021

... under Biden, although I have no fear of him being irresponsible.

Future Presidents can't have so much almost-unchecked power to destroy. They get to choose their Secretary of Defense too, who could be equally crazy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football
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Before the order can be processed by the military, the president must be positively identified using a special code issued on a plastic card, nicknamed the "biscuit".[7] The United States has a two-man rule in place at nuclear launch facilities, and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified by the secretary of defense to be an authentic order given by the president (there is a hierarchy of succession in the event that the president is killed in an attack). This verification process deals solely with verifying that the order came from the actual president. The secretary of defense has no veto power and must comply with the president's order.[7] Once all the codes have been verified, the military would issue attack orders to the proper units. These orders are given and then re-verified for authenticity. It is argued that the president has almost sole authority to initiate a nuclear attack since the secretary of defense is required to verify the order, but cannot veto it.[8][9][10]
-----

VladmireTrumpkins

(370 posts)
53. I am sure he is thinking..
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jan 2021

People say to me. "Sir, we might get our hair mussed ...but in the end there will be some great statues erected to me when this nuclear war is over!!. They know we will prevail because one know more about nuclear war than me! MAGA MAGA MAGA.."




Roc2020

(1,786 posts)
56. Discussing Trump dropping a nuclear bomb
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

because of a temper tantrum. feels like some klingon deep space alter reality I'm in.

nuxvomica

(14,088 posts)
62. Thank God someone's running this country
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jan 2021

And it turns out to be one of the people most capable to do so.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,933 posts)
65. What are the precautions? Because if it's the military making decisions over civilian leadership,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

that sounds a li'l like a coup.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
76. Lawyers monitor every step of the way...
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jan 2021

It was explained that every step of the way, military and civilian lawyers sit next to each person in the chain. Any order must be determined to be legal and to defend the US from imminent threat.

Its a myth that a President can simply order a strike. Several people in the chain could determine it was illegal all along the way.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
90. Source?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jan 2021

That's not what I've read.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2018-01/features/strengthening-checks-presidential-nuclear-launch-authority

Not to mention that the Trump administration made changes to allow him to make "first strike" decisions -- the authority to launch missiles without evidence of a prior attack on us.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
85. Smart
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jan 2021

Less than two weeks now. I'm sure she is trying to think of what the Orange Gorilla might do.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,215 posts)
87. Nancy Pelosi is one of my heroes of American politics.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jan 2021

She has Toughness, Integrity, Ability and Diplomacy, in varying measures, depending on the situation. Recognizing, as she did, the gravity of the situation was not at all difficult. Who didn't see the potential planet-destroying inherent here?

What exactly to do about it is the key! I couldn't be more comfortable about who is apparently quarterbacking this situation.

Arne

(3,609 posts)
89. Her act of loudly tearing his bullshit speech in half was briliant and part of history.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jan 2021

n/t

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