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haele

(12,652 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:08 PM Jan 2021

I'm tired of all these poor MAGATs saying they were acting within their 1st Amendment Rights.

I may be a simple urban retired Chief and Sea Lawyer, but I do know a few things...

1. 1st Amendment rights end when the felonies begin. Breaking windows doors, or other items, shitting on floors, and semi-permanent Vandalism (i.e., spray paint, etching, or permanent marker instead of sidewalk chalk) is not a 1st Amendment right for "free speech", "assembly for redress" or any of the other rights enumerated under them.

2. Threats and boasting of violence or violent activity is not protected. If you threaten to bust my nose because of my
Penzies bumpersticker, you are committing assault, even if you never took the swing (that's the battery). If you threaten to burn my house down unless I sign up to be part of your MLM scheme, that's threats and extortion, amongst other things.
If you are part of a mob shouting "Find Pence, Hang Pence" - you are committing a felony.

Now, silly MAGAt, if you were really just exercising your first amendment right, you would have remained outside with your signs and your Trump Cape, and stayed outside instead of following the crowd of thugs and looters. I'd even suggest you use your cell phone to take pictures and videos of the mob, or maybe just hightail it out of there once you started seeing evidence that this was no longer a protest or protest march, but a fucking riot where people and property are getting damaged.
Being part of a mob is not being a "peaceful protester". Being part of a mob is just as protected under the Constitution as being part of a pack of feral hogs.

Haele

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I'm tired of all these poor MAGATs saying they were acting within their 1st Amendment Rights. (Original Post) haele Jan 2021 OP
they forget about the peaceably assemble part of the first amendment DBoon Jan 2021 #1
K&R grumpyduck Jan 2021 #2
And how they say they haven't done anything illegal while bragging about breaking down doors Solly Mack Jan 2021 #3
and blame it on Antifa after recording themselves and posting video on social media DBoon Jan 2021 #5
Yep. Solly Mack Jan 2021 #6
Trump supporters are very stupid people Gothmog Jan 2021 #4
They are willfully and selectively stupid. Biophilic Jan 2021 #7
The MAGAt 1st Amendment includes killing cops? keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #8

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
1. they forget about the peaceably assemble part of the first amendment
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jan 2021

just like they always forget about the well regulated Militia part of the second amendment

Solly Mack

(90,765 posts)
3. And how they say they haven't done anything illegal while bragging about breaking down doors
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

and stealing property.

Gothmog

(145,199 posts)
4. Trump supporters are very stupid people
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jan 2021

Only very stupid idiots would believe that acts of terrorism are protected speech.

Biophilic

(3,652 posts)
7. They are willfully and selectively stupid.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jan 2021

Just what would they think if the crowd had been a BLM protest? No, they are not necessarily stupid, but they are selectively blind which in turn makes them selectively stupid in their own favor.

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