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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:43 PM Jan 2021

"SOME THOUGHTS..." (from Congressman Adam Schiff):

(note, this is a statement from a Congressman, not copyrighted material, so the entire statement is presented here)

Before too much time passed, I tried to sit down and process what happened on Wednesday. Here are my thoughts:

Now that the dust has settled, all too literally, on the events at the Capitol, I wanted to share a few thoughts on what it was like to be there, what it means to the country, and where we go from here. For the many of us that were present in Congress during 9/11, it brought back a flood of painful memories, but this time, the damage to our country was self-inflicted, and this time, we are far from unified as a result.

The storming of the Capitol was an act of insurrection, intended to disrupt the most fundamental act of our democracy – the peaceful transition of power. Both Houses of Congress and the Vice President gathered in a Joint Session in the Capitol to perform our duty under the 12th Amendment, to certify and count the electoral votes cast by the States.

In preparation for the Joint Session, and at the Speaker’s request, I had been working for months to study the Constitutional provisions and their history, to understand the role of the Vice President and Congress, to foresee any objections that might be raised and how to handle them, and to help manage our effort on the floor along with Representatives Zoe Lofgren, Jamie Raskin and Joe Neguse.

Shortly after the reading of the states began, a large group of Republicans, joined by the leadership of their conference, Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise, objected to counting the electors from Arizona and we divided into our respective houses to debate the matter.

When I spoke on the House floor in opposition to this challenge to the votes of millions of Arizonans, I wanted to emphasize that these Republican objectors were violating their oaths to defend the Constitution, regardless of the outcome of their objection, and doing grave damage to our democracy:

“NOR CAN WE CONSOLE OURSELVES WITH THE INTOXICATING FICTION THAT WE CAN BREAK THAT OATH WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE BECAUSE DOING SO WILL NOT SUCCEED IN OVERTURNING THE ELECTION. AN OATH IS NO LESS BROKEN, WHEN THE BREAKING FAILS TO ACHIEVE ITS END.

“WE MUST BE MINDFUL THAT ANY WHO SEEK TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION, WILL DO INJURY TO OUR CONSTITUTION, WHATEVER THE RESULT. FOR JUST AS THE PROPAGATION OF A DANGEROUS MYTH ABOUT THIS ELECTION MADE THIS MOMENT INEVITABLE, OUR ACTIONS TODAY WILL PUT ANOTHER TRAIN IN MOTION. THIS ELECTION WILL NOT BE OVERTURNED, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT? OR THE ONE AFTER THAT?

“WHAT SHALL WE SAY WHEN OUR DEMOCRATIC LEGACY IS NO MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN THE AIR, EXCEPT THAT WE BROUGHT TROUBLE TO OUR OWN HOUSE, AND INHERITED THE WIND.”

Indeed, although I did not know it, there was another train in motion only miles away. Nearby on the National Mall, the President of the United States was inciting a crowd of his supporters. He knowingly spread lies about fraudulent votes, suggesting that the election was stolen, and asserted that the Vice President could unilaterally overturn the results of a free and fair election in which 155 million Americans had cast their ballots. And then, he implored his crowd to go to the Capitol and do something about it. Trump even said he’d join them.

And so they did.

The scene was everything you have seen on television and more. I was on the House Floor taking notes for a rebuttal speech I would make later, when the Speaker was whisked out of the room by security, followed immediately by the Majority Leader, Steny Hoyer. The mob had broken into the Capitol, we were informed, and were headed our way. Police were discharging tear gas, there were reports of gunshots, and we were told to take out the gas masks under each seat and prepare to put them on. One of my colleagues, a veteran, was yelling instructions — “breathe slowly under the hoods or you will pass out.” That is when the mob reached the doors to the House chamber and started battering them and trying to break through. Capitol police pushed furniture in the way to barricade them out and drew their weapons. The mob broke the glass in the doors, and members were instructed by police to leave the chamber through the rear doors ASAP. We did.

As bad as it was, it could have been worse. There were many in the violent mob who had every intent to attack people they judged to be their enemies, and several Democratic and Republican members told me to try to keep out of sight. As one Republican said, “I know these people and can talk to them. You are in a whole different situation.” I don’t think he meant that he literally knew people in the mob, who were still disembodied and angry voices banging to get through the doors, only that he knew people like them and what they were capable of.

Capitol police ushered us to a secure location. On the way, one of the Republican members was carrying a large wooden stand he had taken from the House chamber, the hand sanitizer still attached to its top. I could tell he meant to use it as a club, if he needed to. “You that worried about your safety?” I asked him. “Yes,” he said, explaining that he had heard gunshots. I didn’t recognize him and only knew he was a member from the pin on his lapel. “How long have you been here?” I asked, expecting him to tell me that he was in his second or third term in Congress. “72 hours,” he said. “I just got elected.” I wasn’t sure what to say to reassure him, and merely deadpanned, “it’s not always like this.”

As we waited for police and National Guard reinforcements to arrive, I discussed with my colleagues what our next steps should be. I felt strongly that we needed to resume the proceedings as soon as it was safe to do so, that we could not let these thugs interrupt the transition of power any more than they had already. I was pleased to see that sentiment was widely held.

When we did resume, now in the evening, we voted down the objections to the Arizona electors, but nonetheless an astonishing number of Republicans still sought to overturn the results. And after resuming the Joint Session, Republicans objected to counting the certificates from yet another state, Pennsylvania. It was incredible to me that after all this, after seeing the clear and violent implication of their conduct, these members were not finished with their oath breaking.

Late in the evening, I spoke again on the floor. Remarking on the fact that Franklin Roosevelt had given his Four Freedoms speech exactly eighty years earlier, highlighting the dangers of “poisonous propaganda” to our democracy, I called on Republicans to stop. I emphasized the need for unity in the face of the attempted insurrection and a pandemic that is killing thousands of us every day:

“This is the urgency that our new president must address, a virus that will claim more American lives than all our casualties during WWII. To meet that moment will require unity, not discord, will require an abiding faith in our country, in our democracy, in our government’s ability to function and provide for the needs of its citizens.

“We cannot continue debating the merits of an election that was fairly conducted, and overwhelmingly won by Joe Biden.

“Have we not brought enough damage to this House, to this country? It must stop!”

But it didn’t stop. At around 3 am, we voted on the baseless objections to the Pennsylvania electors, and 138 members of the House (a large majority of the Republican Caucus and their leadership) as well as 7 Republican Senators, voted to reject the votes of millions of Pennsylvanians. Astonishingly, Republican members claimed that the ballots were fraudulent even though they had been elected on the very same ballots. Apparently, as I pointed out during the debate: “What value has consistency when measured against ambition?”

On Thursday morning, I felt a mixture of sadness at what our country has gone through, embarrassment at how we appear in the eyes of the world, anger at the irresponsible actions of my colleagues who have spread lies about the election for months and brought this on themselves and the nation, fury over a president who instigated the rebellion, and a grave concern over the future.

The actions of the mob and those who incited them, the President most of all, are despicable and outrageous, and those who committed crimes need to be held accountable. But we should not lose sight of the fact that what happened in the early hours of the morning, in a chamber with windows broken by bats and not far from statutes flecked with blood, was every bit as much an attack on our democracy as anything the mob tried to do. This assault on our Constitutional order was inspired by people wearing suits and ties, and cloaked in the genteel language of Congressional debate, but their purpose was no less ominous.

Donald Trump lit the fuse which exploded yesterday at the Capitol. Every day that he remains in office, he is a danger to the Republic, and he should leave office immediately, through resignation, the 25th Amendment or impeachment. He should have been removed from office a year ago when the House impeached him and we proved in the Senate trial that he abused his power to cheat in the election. During the trial, we warned that if left in office, he would try to cheat his way into staying there. As I said at the time, the odds that he would do so again were 100 percent.

And as much as I am pleased to see people resigning from his cabinet and former officials speaking out, where were they when they had a chance to stop this dangerous man from destroying the country, except by his side? As we read the sudden expressions of outrage from the likes of Bill Barr, Betsy DeVos, Mick Mulvaney and others, let us remember that these enablers wanted four more years of Donald Trump as president and worked hard to make that so. Their statements now are less about saving the country and more about saving what is left of their shattered reputations.

Donald Trump has been the worst president we have ever had and should be confined to the dustbin of history where he belongs — for this failed insurrection, and everything before it.

Yet even when he’s gone, the evil he has perpetrated will live after him. We can fortify the defenses of the Capitol. We can reinforce doors and put up fences. But we cannot guard our democracy against those who walk the halls of the Capitol, have taken an oath to uphold our Constitution, but refuse to do so.

The work to repair and defend our democracy has never been more urgent or daunting.

But we must never back down from this sacred task. I know I won’t.

Take care of yourselves.

— Adam
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"SOME THOUGHTS..." (from Congressman Adam Schiff): (Original Post) George II Jan 2021 OP
If he lives/represents a safe D district in CA I would love for him to be appointed as in2herbs Jan 2021 #1
Schiff should be the next speaker after Pelosi retires in 2022. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #2
Absolutely. lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #6
He'd be an excellent Speaker in many ways, but Pelosi's tactical & strategic skills hard to match Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #26
I hope that this intelligent, honorable man runs for President some day. Marie Marie Jan 2021 #3
I love this man leftieNanner Jan 2021 #4
So do I. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
I don't know any more leftieNanner Jan 2021 #24
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2021 #5
Beautiful and powerful. A must read central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #7
Absolutely ailsagirl Jan 2021 #21
I wept the whole way through this. sheshe2 Jan 2021 #8
🌸🌸 Hekate Jan 2021 #48
Love you too. sheshe2 Jan 2021 #50
K&R n/t Kitchari Jan 2021 #9
Speaking TRUTH TO POWER - gotta love it. nt TigressDem Jan 2021 #10
K&R K& R K&R TigressDem Jan 2021 #11
K&R. n/t Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2021 #12
Take care of yourself too, Mr Schiff Budi Jan 2021 #13
Thanks for the wisdom Adam Schiff. BSdetect Jan 2021 #14
KnR Hekate Jan 2021 #15
"it's not always like this." tinrobot Jan 2021 #16
Bookmarked for later. Considering the source, K&R!! SaveOurDemocracy Jan 2021 #17
He is so eloquent and cogent. AmericanCanuck Jan 2021 #18
Thank you, Adam Schiff! You make me rush to the TV in the living room from wherever LaMouffette Jan 2021 #19
He certainly is and we certainly are ailsagirl Jan 2021 #22
He's my guy birdographer Jan 2021 #23
Spot on as usual. Thank you Congressman Schiff. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #25
To Adam Schiff. A true patriot. Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #27
Nancy's successor, no doubt Mr. Ected Jan 2021 #28
Great quip from Shiff to a newly elected member: hotdamn00 Jan 2021 #29
Which is why we are all screaming at the tops of our lungs, MAKE US WHOLE AGAIN. JUSTICE! ffr Jan 2021 #30
Mr. Schiff is who I think of when I kacekwl Jan 2021 #31
Adam to a newly elected rookie house member, "It's not always like this." HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #32
Hear hear! BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #33
The problem with Schiff is flamin lib Jan 2021 #34
Yes! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #37
My big laugh of the day. Bravo! LuckyLib Jan 2021 #44
Ty! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #35
What an eloquently written piece full of truth and passion. llmart Jan 2021 #36
Almost felt I was reading a movie script Roc2020 Jan 2021 #38
Adam Schiff should definitely be the next Speaker of the House. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #39
A very true and heartfelt statement Jay25 Jan 2021 #40
"several Democratic and Republican members soldierant Jan 2021 #41
Love this guy Joinfortmill Jan 2021 #42
Well said Adam Schiff. c-rational Jan 2021 #43
KNR niyad Jan 2021 #45
We are so blessed to have this man working for our country. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #46
A big fat K&R! ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2021 #47
KnR again Hekate Jan 2021 #49
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ live love laugh Jan 2021 #51
"An oath is no less broken, Captain Zero Jan 2021 #52
"An oath is no less broken, Captain Zero Jan 2021 #53
Three Cheers for Adam Schiff !!! Martin Eden Jan 2021 #54
Not much else to add, you all covered it intrepidity Jan 2021 #55
I love the signature! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #56

in2herbs

(4,385 posts)
1. If he lives/represents a safe D district in CA I would love for him to be appointed as
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jan 2021

the special prosecutor on a task force that investigates and either prosecutes or refers for prosecution all of trump's and his administrations corruption.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
26. He'd be an excellent Speaker in many ways, but Pelosi's tactical & strategic skills hard to match
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:14 PM
Jan 2021

Pelosi has announced retirement, as you say, and will be hard to replace.

I hope the next Speaker has great tactical and strategic skills, and can win elections, and knows how to humble tinpot wanna-be-dictators.

And can wear red better than any Republicon ever has or will.

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
4. I love this man
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jan 2021

America is fortunate to have such a thoughtful man in our Congress. I am feeling calmer and more reassured after reading this.

Perhaps he could be the next Speaker of the House.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. So do I.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jan 2021

He's almost too good to be true. Unfortunately, this kind of intelligence, honor and integrity doesn't seem to appeal to most Americans, politically. They would rather have a loud-mouth reality TV show host or a flashy celebrity.

Thank you, Rep. Schiff, for your thoughtful words.

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
24. I don't know any more
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jan 2021

I think an intelligent, honorable man may have some appeal after the four years of chaos we have just endured.

Joe Biden is like that too.

tinrobot

(12,058 posts)
16. "it's not always like this."
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:44 PM
Jan 2021

Understatement of the year.

Adam Schiff is a treasure (and my representative!) Proud to have him representing this country.

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
19. Thank you, Adam Schiff! You make me rush to the TV in the living room from wherever
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jan 2021

I am in the house whenever I hear Rachel Maddow, or any other news host say, "Next, we will be speaking with Representative Adam Schiff . . ."

You are our hero, and we are so fortunate you are on our side!

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
23. He's my guy
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:05 PM
Jan 2021

What a wonderful American. He keeps trying to tell us how despicable republicans are, but they are still here. There are only a handful with any integrity, morals, or values at all. I don't see a lot of difference between them and the rabid monkeys that ransacked the Capitol.

Dem2theMax

(11,005 posts)
27. To Adam Schiff. A true patriot.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jan 2021


I truly believe the founding fathers would pull up a chair and ask him to sit next to them.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
28. Nancy's successor, no doubt
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:18 PM
Jan 2021

The American people will be well-served under his leadership, when that happens.

I have never read a word that escaped Adam Schiff's mouth that I haven't vibed with.

ffr

(23,393 posts)
30. Which is why we are all screaming at the tops of our lungs, MAKE US WHOLE AGAIN. JUSTICE!
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021

Make laws. Enforce them against these seditionists and traitors to the U.S. Constitution and this country. Make examples of them and make their punishments so harsh that others will think twice before violating their sworn oaths again.

You have our complete support. We are tired of eating shit forced upon us by republicans, then having to eat some more shit with whipped cream on it when our democratic leaders choose to not look back upon the injustices perpetrated in the past.

We are so proud of our current leadership, but now is the time to make things right for the people of this great nation. Don't ask us to eat more shit and like it in the name of healing. For we are the ones who have been wounded unjustly, simply because we play by the rules, the laws of this land. Punish the law breakers until they have all been punished!

kacekwl

(9,137 posts)
31. Mr. Schiff is who I think of when I
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:28 PM
Jan 2021

hear the word Statesman and representative for the American people. A true paitrot.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
34. The problem with Schiff is
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:32 PM
Jan 2021

that he speaks like a Statesman. He uses words and phrases that carry not only information but emotion and passion.

The electorate has dumbed down to the point that I can sum up that beautifully composed elegant statement to just a few words:

Ya'll ain't Patriots, youse is fucking idiots and dangerous so we's comin' fer your smarmy white ass. Get ready motherfuckers the FBI is lookin' at all yer selfies and comparin' 'em to yer work applications and hi skool year books. Put yer affairs in order and kiss yer girlfren' g'bye.

THIS a Trumpanzee can understand.

llmart

(17,597 posts)
36. What an eloquently written piece full of truth and passion.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:36 PM
Jan 2021

He so brilliantly put into words how those congresspersons who rejected the votes of their states were equally as guilty of betraying their oath of office as Trump is.

This man has a bright future ahead of him. I do hope he runs for President some day.

soldierant

(9,352 posts)
41. "several Democratic and Republican members
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jan 2021

told me to try to keep out of sight. As one Republican said, 'I know these people and can talk to them. You are in a whole different situation.' I don’t think he meant that he literally knew people in the mob, who were still disembodied and angry voices banging to get through the doors, only that he knew people like them and what they were capable of."

It would be interesting to know who that one epublican was. If there is a human Republican in the House, it would be nice to know who it is.

BTW Adam Schiff is a very clear-eyed man. If he is ever elected speaker, he will be ware what characteristics for that job he is least qualified in, and will do whatever possible to ensure the Whip has them.

c-rational

(3,201 posts)
43. Well said Adam Schiff.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jan 2021

This sentence hit home for me:

"This assault on our Constitutional order was inspired by people wearing suits and ties, and cloaked in the genteel language of Congressional debate, but their purpose was no less ominous."

Captain Zero

(8,900 posts)
52. "An oath is no less broken,
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:53 AM
Jan 2021
"AN OATH IS NO LESS BROKEN, WHEN THE BREAKING FAILS TO ACHIEVE ITS END."

-Adam Schiff.

Captain Zero

(8,900 posts)
53. "An oath is no less broken,
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:54 AM
Jan 2021
"AN OATH IS NO LESS BROKEN, WHEN THE BREAKING FAILS TO ACHIEVE ITS END."

-Adam Schiff.

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
55. Not much else to add, you all covered it
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:00 PM
Jan 2021

(except: blood on statutes?)

He's so careful, I must wonder if that was deliberate?

BobTheSubgenius

(12,215 posts)
56. I love the signature!
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jan 2021

"- Adam" He strikes me as being anything but stuffy and self-important. It's too bad words like his don't jump off the page and grab you by the throat, as arrogance and condescension do.

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