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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs there any punishment that Schumer and/or Democrats can mete out to Hawley and Cruz?
Can they refuse to seat them?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(129,730 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)Divide and Conquer, as Snotty Walker called it.
Stinky The Clown
(68,937 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,415 posts)Censure Cruz and Hawley and get rid of the F-Wad.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But he doesn't have that power anyway
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)two-thirds majority of whatever House has the offender.
Ilsa
(64,026 posts)Tumbulu
(6,623 posts)Is that possible?
Stinky The Clown
(68,937 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)herding cats
(19,996 posts)So, that won't work.
Tumbulu
(6,623 posts)this way, he can, right?
herding cats
(19,996 posts)Not that I'd trust him to hold them accountable, but if he's angry enough he has this option.
Irish_Dem
(80,415 posts)Wonder what he wants to do with them?
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)And Cruz can be on the Green Eggs and Ham perpetual dramatic reading committee.
pecosbob
(8,345 posts)No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The burden is to establish that they have engaged in insurrection or rebellion and they must be removed.
Cruz has patently violated his oath of office.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,458 posts)pecosbob
(8,345 posts)In July 1861, 10 secessionist Senate members were expelled for being engaged in a conspiracy for the destruction of the Union and Government. They were: James Mason and Robert Hunter of Virginia; Thomas Clingman and Thomas Bragg of North Carolina; James Chesnut of South Carolina; Alfred Nicholson of Tennessee; William Sebastian and Charles Mitchel of Arkansas; John Hemphill and Louis Wigfall of Texas.
In December, John Breckenridge of Kentucky was expelled because of a motion that declared he had joined the enemies of his country and is now in arms against the government he had sworn to support. Before Lincolns election in 1860, Breckenridge had been vice president under James Buchanan, and went on to become a brigadier-general in the Confederate army.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-expelled-lincoln-election/
Fiendish Thingy
(22,458 posts)Of Insurrection.
It must be one or the other, as outlined in the Constitution.
RockRaven
(18,938 posts)treasonous sociopathic asshole on the floor of the Senate?
That can be accomplished with a simple majority, right?
Fiendish Thingy
(22,458 posts)They also lose any committee chairs they may hold.
herding cats
(19,996 posts)We shall see, but it's doable.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)nothing really. However, with a vote he could bring censure or even expulsion with enough support.
They could also remove them from committees, but that would be easiest done with McConnell doing it.
